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Human cloning 'within 50 years'

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Parents who lose children in accidents may be able to clone "copies" to replace them within 50 years, a British scientist who won this year's Nobel prize for medicine has predicted.

Sir John Gurdon, whose work cloning frogs in the 1950s and 60s led to the later creation of Dolly the sheep by Edinburgh scientists in 1996, said that progression to human cloning could happen within half a century.

Although any attempt to clone an entire human would raise a host of complex ethical issues, the biologist claimed people would soon overcome their concerns if the technique became medically useful.

http://www.telegraph...n-50-years.html

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whats the need for human cloning? its every ones right to be an individual :)

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Fascinating.

I would be more inclined to think that the 50 years is when they will bring it out into the open. They have been experimenting with this.... well... even before Burke and Hare were giving the Frankenstein`s of the world the bodies to experiment on.

For medical purposes, this is great, anything other than that is going completely against nature.

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I hope they don't start cloning people unless there is a real need for it like mass sterility. We have enough of a population problem.

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Good. I need a stand in at work.

Clone away.

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Sure, so we may be able to do it. The question scientists constantly cease to ask is should we?

People don't think about how much this devalue's human life. I can hear it now. "So what if you're kid's dead, we can just make a new one!" This concept would not only increase prejudice and hatred toward the cloned, but the very concept of murder would no longer be as serious. And this isn't even close to the kind of chaos it would bring to those who believe in the human soul.

Science without morality is wreckless and at times downright evil.

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You could never clone the memories of the one being cloned. It would be a different person. However yes is doing it something we should do, don`t think so. However in 50 yrs I wont give a damn.

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I think it is something we should do, compared to many of the things we shouldn't do, yet seem to anyhow. Cloning may have its negatives, but personally I believe it to have far more positives.

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One of the main fields where cloning is being tested for these days is fertility.

For example, the case where the man and women are infertile but would have the possibility of cloning themselves. The individual born will most likely be completely different.

But of course ethical questions then arise of what would happen if the child grows up and one of the parents feels attracted to him/her. Because they are of course a close replica of the spouse but in more youthful form.

Although it is not guaranteed a clone would actually look the same.

I also believe that parents who have lost a child don't fully comprehend that cloning that child doesn't mean they will get the same child back, the personality could be completely different and could even look differently.

But in cases where the parents are too old to procreate again it may be the only option...of course, is this then a valid option to start over at an older age?

These are ethical dilemma's that are thoroughly being researched.

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*double post

Edited by xTc i_i

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I think they could clone a human being right know. With what longevity result is however still questionable.

Besides that, is cloning humans even desirable?

From our less than honorable history of despising and often killing everything that is 'different' from the norm,

a new race of clones, androids, intelligent robots, would face the same difficulties and hatred as all the other 'different'

ones have, and are still suffering.

I would say, unless we learn how to respect those who are 'different', we should not clone humans.

http://youtu.be/a_saUN4j7Gw

http://youtu.be/3PMlDidyG_I

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Cloning a full human for the purpose of emotional replacement is a bad idea in my opinion. Mainly for the reason thongy laid out. However, cloning for the purpose of transplants, blood donations and the like, could be incredibly beneficial to mankind.

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They are probably doing it already behind closed doors,Man has become the first species on Earth that can directly change his Evolution..

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50 years ago they said we would have a colony on Mars by now. They also said flying cars would be commonplace.

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In my opinion, there are only two areas where cloning is a good thing, and then only with disclaimers:

1) Human body part harvest for transplant purposes, with the disclaimer that the scientist must demonstrate that at no point in the clone's life cycle was it ever "aware" or possessing any brain activity at all. Simply the parts, none of the "soul".

2) Human life extension, with the disclaimer including the above, as well as the fact that the technology required to transfer one's consciousness when they get old is perfected at the same time.

I think the "lost loved one" example is poor, because it would mean that they would not be able to transfer that "person" into the clone. Their child would look the same, but be a different person, and would never be treated as such. In the end, I think the parent, or non-clone loved one would be terribly disappointed, and the clone would feel lost and unloved. Dead is dead, unless you can plan for it, like in my scenario #2.

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they are cloning humans now....yes I agree with another poster, it's a bad idea

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Stem cell therapy can give us cures, and rebuilt organs from the skeletons of the ones we have, and the ability to eventually replace/repair damaged tissue, so why would someone put a suggestion out there to enhance the acceptability of cloning, when the situation described would force an individual to be subjected to a life that is a pathetic role playing script? Simply, profits and preying on emotionally exploitable people, or something quite sinister.... Testing the waters, as I see it

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Playing God never ends well.

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Playing God never ends well.

Nor does pretending there is a god and man speakes for it.

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Playing God never ends well.

we play "god" everyday with surgery, intervening in extinction of species etc. So it's nothing new.

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I don't know why it astonishes me so much every time I see this level of evil, but it does... And then people claim God to be the unjust one for sending us to Hell...

Yes, playing God never ends well. We should really as a species try our best to eliminate our egos and learn to be content with the time we have here with our loved ones. We invent things like cloning out of fear, not out of love. And anything built out of fear is not worth being built in the first place. Where on earth is the humility?

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The god's never saw this coming did they?...the day their pawns would become gods themselves.

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50 years ago they said we would have a colony on Mars by now. They also said flying cars would be commonplace.

I also fell for that one.The promise of the predicted future was exciting to all of us.I watched many tv series such as star trek etc &,even laughingly enough,the Jetsons! Let's all have another laugh on me too now! LMAO!!! I couldn't wait until I was grown up & old enough to be one of the many that travelled through space & also fly in cars over our metropolis'. Even being able to visit safe & secure colonies on other planets. Now however,the disappointment of knowing that mankind has not progressed forward to what we thought,disappoints me.It was all an illusion!We all have had to realize that,sadly enough. Even NASA still doesn't have the technology to counteract the effects of anti-gravity.We can not physically travel through space for extended periods of time due to the negative effects of muscle degeneration etc in long term space flights.We are still restricted to this Earth's stable & friendly environment,unlike the outer realms of the cosmos.So,we are still here,bound by the laws of physics & also the laws of physical human nature & the lack of the technology to conquer all the limitations that were to face us! Let's just breathe another breath of this planet's atmosphere & thank God for it.! ... I'm still depressed though ! LOL

Oh,& as for human cloning,we didn't see that one coming. Even Dolly died young due to the genetic faults from the cloning process.RIP Dolly! bbbaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Edited by GirlfromOz

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anyone suprised ?

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Cloning a full human for the purpose of emotional replacement is a bad idea in my opinion. Mainly for the reason thongy laid out. However, cloning for the purpose of transplants, blood donations and the like, could be incredibly beneficial to mankind.

The other dilemma would be that these humans would be produced to be,live,healthy living, replacements, involuntarily as a body parts donors. No human rights etc.No identity etc! There would be a mass rebellion from these new recruits when their awareness of their rights eventuates.Another example of a dream,not thought through by the scientific community.

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