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The photoshopped image in the OP is so bad it's not even funny. Apart from the fact that it looks really fake, here's a composite I did in photoshop to compare various pics of the "bigfoot trap".

* SNIP *

The photo they used is not supposed to be a real photo at all. Whomever used that photo should have pointed it out. I assure you that photo is not claimed to be of the daisy in the box....

Now, the rest of their claims, yes, they say they are true...... :no:

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Yes, I picture a prettier Daisy than the OP...and much younger than Patty... on a bicycle built for 500 lbs. two

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The photoshopped image in the OP is so bad it's not even funny. Apart from the fact that the bigfoot face looking through the gap in the trap wall looks really fake, here's a composite I did in photoshop to compare various pics of the "bigfoot trap".

bigfootd.jpg

The gap that "bigfoot" is looking through only appears in the pic that supposedly shows him. In all other pics, it's just a plank of wood as part of the trap.

Note also that the OP photo has none of the graffiti that shows up in later pics, indicating that this is probably an old photo of the trap that has been photoshopped.

The picture with the trapped "bigfoot" also appears to show a different trap mechanism that the other pics, which show a single cage door raised up that looks designed to fall down, locking the beast within (why else would the door be raised up above the height of the roof of the trap?), but the photoshop with the trapped bigfoot appears to have a lower cage door crudely photoshopped onto the pic in an attempt to make it look like the door was closed, but photoshopping out the upper cage was probably too much effort or too difficult.

Fail.

I think I could probably photoshop that better with my eyes close! Well almost! ;)

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I think I could probably photoshop that better with my eyes close! Well almost! ;)

Ya think?

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Official Statement of Steve Kulls

By now some you have read the statement by DW Lee of the MABRC that he was asked by Ed Smith, on behalf of Team Quantra to establish a “Bridging Group.”

Several days ago, I was asked by DW Lee, much to my surprise, if I would participate in a meeting with Team Quantra, and the possibility of being able to observe their “live specimen.”

I was particularly impressed with the named researchers, as they represent all a fair representation geographically of the United States and a couple of them being scientists.

The Independent part of the Bridging Group consists of:

  • Dr Jeff Meldrum
  • Kathy Strain
  • Melissa Hovey
  • Abe Del Rio
  • Steve Kulls

The MABRC part of the Bridging Team is as follows:

  • D.W. Lee
  • Randy Harrington
  • Jim Whitehead
  • Rob Gaudet
  • Doug Todd

http://squatchdetect...g/team-quantra/

http://bigfoot.ning.com/profiles/blogs/daisy-bigfoot-bridging-team-to-include-dr-meldrum

Edited by danbell06

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I'm actually really looking forward to find out what occurs at this, ''bridging meeting''. If this is found to be a hoax then I suppose I'm going to have to find something else to spend my free time on when I get home from work and not wasting it on Bigfoot.

Jesus wept, I'm 25 and spend at least an hour of my spare time reading the latest bigfoot news.....

My Fiance is so lucky...... :unsure2:

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I'm just curious what they actually need a "Bridging Team" for? I'm also wondering how it is the Dr Jeff Meldrum is on this team when, as I understand it, he and this group don't get along?

As I understand bridging team concepts and have used them, served on them and such usually a "Bridging Team" is composed of people within a group and often are a clearing group for consultants, sharing of information and the release of findings and data. However, bringing in a group of consultants to oversee a group of consultants seems odd to me.

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Official Statement of Steve Kulls

By now some you have read the statement by DW Lee of the MABRC that he was asked by Ed Smith, on behalf of Team Quantra to establish a “Bridging Group.”

Several days ago, I was asked by DW Lee, much to my surprise, if I would participate in a meeting with Team Quantra, and the possibility of being able to observe their “live specimen.”

I was particularly impressed with the named researchers, as they represent all a fair representation geographically of the United States and a couple of them being scientists.

The Independent part of the Bridging Group consists of:

  • Dr Jeff Meldrum
  • Kathy Strain
  • Melissa Hovey
  • Abe Del Rio
  • Steve Kulls

The MABRC part of the Bridging Team is as follows:

  • D.W. Lee
  • Randy Harrington
  • Jim Whitehead
  • Rob Gaudet
  • Doug Todd

http://squatchdetect...g/team-quantra/

http://bigfoot.ning....lude-dr-meldrum

Jeff Meldrum said he was contacted, and asked for more information. He has not confirmed at all being on this group.

They screwed up on this one........Jeffs answer below is also on face book....When the bridge group list was posted, that was at least 6 hours before Jeff responded with below.....It is a lie. Or, Jeff is going to lose any credibility he had. ( it is a lie )

Damian Bravo:

Hello Dr. Meldrum, I wanted to see if we can verify if it's true you have been contacted by those involve in the Daisy capture story and if we can get a statement from you for Bigfoot Evidence blog on it's validity or if you know anything as of yet that would confirm that it could possibly be true?

Dr. Jeff Meldrum:

I was contacted today by an intermediary-- no one in the group itself, to see if I was interested. I asked for some more information. We'll see.

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I'm just curious what they actually need a "Bridging Team" for? I'm also wondering how it is the Dr Jeff Meldrum is on this team when, as I understand it, he and this group don't get along?

As I understand bridging team concepts and have used them, served on them and such usually a "Bridging Team" is composed of people within a group and often are a clearing group for consultants, sharing of information and the release of findings and data. However, bringing in a group of consultants to oversee a group of consultants seems odd to me.

I was wondering about the same thing. There's quite a few posts on another forum by Melissa Hovey who is acting as a go-between with Ed Smith and the forum. Not sure if I'm allowed to post it. So I wont, just incase I get a smacked ****.

I will however paste this:

Play by Play, Updated:

  • Dec. 27, 2012: First reported on MABRC forum & Facebook, followed by Bigfoot Evidence.
  • Report was of a text message leaked by Ed Smith.
  • The text was sent by a member of Team Quantra, formally ORIG-6.
  • The text stated "Daisy is in the Box", which is a code phrase for a Bigfoot (possibly Female) has been captured.
  • The Rumour Mill fires up.
  • Dec. 27, 2012: D.W. Lee does not deny the capture, and states that it did not happen in Oklahoma.
  • Dec. 28, 2012: Bigfoot Evidence reports that the Bigfoot Chicks interviewed D.W. Lee, who stated a trap was specially designed with a trigger set to close if a 350+ pound weight steps on a plate, and that a team of privately contracted scientist will examine the evidence.
  • Dec. 28, 2012: Ed Smith reports that the Bigfoot was moved from the capture site to the examination site during the early morning hours (12 miles between the two sites).
  • MABRC website crashes due to too many hits.
  • Tim Fasano says something false and not worth mentioning.
  • MABRC get their website back up and running.
  • D.W. Lee states that Ed Smith will be posting a 90 page document regarding the capture.
  • Dec. 29, 2012: More Rumours. Matt Moneymaker claims that no bigfoot has been captured. (I guess he's protecting his tv show, after all, Matt's out of work if Bigfoot is actually found; step aside Amateurs, step in Scientists)
  • Ed Smith states that he will not provide any further updates, and that any updates will come directly from Team Quantra.
  • D.W. Lee, MABRC Executive Director, has referenced us as people on the blogs, and we've been told to be patient.
  • Dec. 30, 2012: Midnight, BFF member and member of MABRC, Driveroperator, explains what he knows about "Team Quantra" & Ed Smith: A group of wealthy and technologically gifted college friends who have, for the past decade, been researching an area in Oklahoma with success, however Ed Smith was too eager to go public and therefore left the group. Ed says he left because between work, family & Bigfoot something had to go. MABRC was the organization of choice for "Team Quantra" due to Geographic convenience.
  • Jan. 01, 2013: Ed Smith states that he will hold a meeting in Houston on Jan. 02, 2013, between Himself and Quantra. This meeting will be to discuss setting up another meeting between Quantra, MABRC and select individuals, a.k.a the "Bridging Group".
  • JRid posts on BFF an Archived Radio Broadcast from 2009, in which Ed Smith elaborates on the capabilities of Quantra/ORIG-6. This broadcast is consistent with Driveroperator's post on Dec. 30. Bigfoot Evidence reports same broadcast a few hours later.
  • Driveroperator alludes on BFF to the possible involvement of legal council regarding Quantra's rights to possession of a specimen. This may explain the time delay & the 90 page document said to be forthcoming.
  • Jan. 02, 2013: Ed Smith clears up background and explains the evolution of the ORIG-6 to Team Quantra: 1.) ORIG-6 founded in early 1990's, small scale and fun. 2.) Early 2000's ORIG-6 research & projects become larger scale in multiple states. 3.) ORIG-6 dabble in DNA, but decide capture of a live specimen is best. 4.) Ed Smith designs a trap - Traps are fabricated in Tulsa by business associate. 5.) ORIG-6 use Oil & Gas business as cover to hide their growing Capture Project needs. 6.) Capture Project grows to 42+ participants. 7.) ORIG-6 cease operations in late 2011. 8.) Team Quantra formed in Virginia by former ORIG-6 members and like-minded business associates, June 2012. 9.) Quantra owns rights to past research and documentaries.
  • Jan. 02, 2013: Ed Smith states a meeting between himself & Team Quantra to take place this evening.
  • Jan. 03, 2013: Well over 24 hours pass without any update/communication from anyone at all.
  • Jan. 04, 2013: Melissa Hovey states on BFF that she is in private communication with Ed Smith, and that her questions are being answered.
  • Jan. 05, 2013: Ed answers Melissa: 1.) Ed Smith states that a "Bridging Group" of select "Independent Researchers", including Melissa Hovey are to have a meeting with Quantra, and will be shown extensive "Hard Evidence", which Ed has not yet witnessed. 2.) Ed Smith names a Randy Harrington regarding the documentary DVDs. 3.) Ed Smith describes "The Trap".
  • The Trap: 1.) Not a Clam Shell Trap. 2.) A Crate made of Steel, Aluminum and Carbon Fiber. 3.) Dimensions (in feet): 11.5W x 17.8L x 8.2H, weight 4200 lbs. 4.) Triggered by 2 weight sensing modules that blow explosive cylinder trip latches, snapping a sliding door shut. 5.) Oxygen is temporarily reduced by increasing Nitrogen levels to make specimen unconscious, then tranquillized. 6.) Powered by 6 to 8 12volt batteries in a 24volt configuration. 7.) Baited, variable camouflage capabilities & easily transportable. 8.) 8 traps in total, 6 in the field, 1 stand-by, 1 reserve. 9.) Equipped with remote communication, video, and monitoring. 10.) Research Team response time to capture site is 6 minutes; research sites all on private land. 11.) Cost per Trap: $31,817.09
  • A False article regarding "Team Quantra & an African Sasquatch" is circulated. Article intended to be humorous. Only person laughing is Tim Fasano.
  • Jan. 06, 2013: Ed answers Melissa, 1st Follow-up: 1.) Ed affirms he is not a member of Quantra. 2.) Ed reiterates that Quantra is unhappy with his leak. 3.) Melissa asks why are they involving you? Ed said to oversee the "Bridging Group" meeting & frame work. 4.) Ed is not Quantra's spokesperson. 5.) Ed states that long-term Examination Repositories have been built. 6.) Better than 90% chance capture is legitimate, according to Ed.
  • Jan. 07, 2013: Ed answers Melissa, 2nd Follow-up: 1.) Ed's 90+% legit comment based on Quantra telling him it's legit at the Houston meeting. 2.) Quantra wants Ed involved because he "bring to the table an understanding of the Bigfoot Community" needed to oversee the "Bridging Group" meeting. 3.) Ed states that he too is an outsider looking in, but he is the closest to the window. 4.) Mr. Alexander is a successful trader in Mortgages & Loans. 5.) ORIG-6 contracted 18 to 20 Scientifically Qualified Specialists & Field Specialists for Consultation & Examination; Compensated well over normal rates; Signed 25 year NDA. 6.) Ed elaborates on The Trap.
  • The Trap, 1st Follow-up: 1.) "Knock Down" system: Oxygen Reduced, not Removed. 2.) Oxygen reduced to 9.71% for 57 seconds. 3.) Oxygen levels return to normal in 88 seconds. 4.) Specimen is never without survivable levels of Oxygen, no need for resuscitation. 5.) At 3.5 minutes Nitrogen releases again.

Thanks to Mounty.

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I was wondering about the same thing. There's quite a few posts on another forum by Melissa Hovey who is acting as a go-between with Ed Smith and the forum. Not sure if I'm allowed to post it. So I wont, just incase I get a smacked ****.

* Snip for length and reply *

Dan, I would just stick to the other forum for this. It really is getting no to little attention here. I tried :)

A lot more info over there as you know. Although it is not info, it is just a bunch of bull :)

I am roblester over there.....

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Yeah i noticed no-one cares. I cant really blame people because of the amount of bull thats being recycled.

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It's not that no one cares, it's just we've all seen this multiple times now and it's a bit old. If they got a Bigfoot then say so and show the critter, live or dead makes no difference. All this other stuff is just so much "mental masterba$ion" and not worth getting all hot and bothered over.

If something does pop that's significant then by all means post it up.

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HEY okay for ****s an giggles..hows about all us design our own big foot traps and post tem on here an take a vote on who's might stay the said beasty if say said beasty was to be there to capture????? any one ? i get to sketchen mine out an post it later on

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It's not that no one cares, it's just we've all seen this multiple times now and it's a bit old. If they got a Bigfoot then say so and show the critter, live or dead makes no difference. All this other stuff is just so much "mental masterba$ion" and not worth getting all hot and bothered over.

If something does pop that's significant then by all means post it up.

I think that *IF* they've got a Bigfoot, then they're preparing one final "amateur study" of it to milk it for all it's worth, because we all know the moment it's revealed to exist then the amateur with their grainy cameras and theories will be replaced by the professional scientist with their specialised equipment and rigorous inquiry. And there is staggeringly few crossovers between those two groups.

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You know, I hadn't considered that Hats, but you're right, once the critter is proved to be real then no one is going to pay any of these guys any attention except maybe the person who got the evidence or the live one in this case.......allegedly.

That's the thing with me, I'm just not devious enough to think out all the different way to make a scam like this pay off for me, so I tend to over look it.

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Yeah i noticed no-one cares. I cant really blame people because of the amount of bull thats being recycled.

I'm interested in it. And I'm reading about it around the web a bit from info posted here.

But there is not much to say, I guess, as I don't believe a word of it. Not one itsy bitsy sentence.

And to be honest, if there is more than one person involved in this? That scares the heck out of me. I make fun of this crap, but it's not funny at all when I think about it, it's worrisome.

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If "Daisy" (Bigfoot) is human and/or hybrid then is she not entitled to legal representation/protection? Is she not being confined against her will?

Anyone with any legal knowledge here?

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If "Daisy" (Bigfoot) is human and/or hybrid then is she not entitled to legal representation/protection? Is she not being confined against her will?

Anyone with any legal knowledge here?

Well, we don't know anything at this point. There is that nice anecdotal story being passed around.......however that does beg the question, how human do we need to be to be considered to have the same rights as we give other humans?

Edited by keninsc

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If "Daisy" (Bigfoot) is human and/or hybrid then is she not entitled to legal representation/protection? Is she not being confined against her will?

Anyone with any legal knowledge here?

There is somewhere on here or linked where they said she had been released due to concerns about her health. I got the impression she didn't even get "studied" as they intended?

After all, they (Ed Smith) did say some of the team are doctors and lawyers...why include lawyers unless you think you might need them?

Edited by QuiteContrary

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Yes, but we don't even know if Ed Smith is a real person or not............and Daisy? In or out of the box, we don't know.

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If "Daisy" (Bigfoot) is human and/or hybrid then is she not entitled to legal representation/protection? Is she not being confined against her will?

Anyone with any legal knowledge here?

NW, below is a question to Washington State Wildlife Department....It also has a answer....I emailed him on this, and a few other things.

Hello again,

Hoping you do not mind helping me out again. If not, just let me know. Not sure if you have followed up on this live bigfoot captured thing, and no, I do not believe it. One thing, do you know where or whom can give me Federal law answers on this?

And now, more coming out, lol....The trap used to capture this thing had a pressure plate in it, a certain number of pounds has to activate it. There were tranquilizers used ( automatic ), and gas used to knock it out. This is either in Oklahoma, or Texas.And said to be on private property.

Would this even be legal?....

I would check with US Fish and Wildlife Service. And regardless of method, if the animal / being falls within the classification of wildlife, then hunting rules apply, including needing a season. Also, if human in nature, probably could make the case that it’s kidnapping, etc

Mike Cenci. DFW

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Well, we don't know anything at this point. There is that nice anecdotal story being passed around.......however that does beg the question, how human do we need to be to be considered to have the same rights as we give other humans?

That's for the courts/authorities to decide.

If Bigfoot is real (and human) then having her own legal team to pursue wrongful imprisonment and general image rights infringements would be paramount.

The history of Bigfootery clearly suggests that nothing will come of this and no-one will admit any personal wrongdoings. In the meantime, a legal team demanding access to their "client" would be a most interesting/entertaining development, would it not?

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... if human in nature, probably could make the case that it’s kidnapping, etc

Mike Cenci. DFW

Thanks, Sakari.

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NW...

Check my post 2 up, if you have not.....

I have spent a lot of time over at BFF forums on this. It has ruined me. I am surprised I am replying here. That crowd ( BF crowd ) most of them, are completley out of their minds. I could not take it anymore. I go and read, but I am out of the discussion. It is almost sad to see some of the replies. Also, I have DW and DO stalking me now. They have come onto FB, and onto anything I post on. I would not be surprised if they show up here.

Kind of flattering to have stalkers....Also a laugh that these 2 are in on this " bridge meeting ", and act this way.

Thanks, Sakari.

NP

PS.....Maybe we should contact PETA over this?

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I have spent a lot of time over at BFF forums on this.

I never post there anymore. I can barely stand to read any of it. I personally only go there to trawl for links and stories to read.

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