Crop Circles just one sign of Revelation

[laver]

Maybe.....

Yes...maybe !

But there are signs, geometric signs coming to light at the moment with strong links to the Book of Revelations and to ancient sites

so maybe worth considering ?

[laver]

GLASTONBURY

As the world famous music festival gets under way tomorrow it may be worth recalling the ancient origins of this site which lies on the proposed Saint Michael Alignment or Ley as it passes through southern Britain. This alignment is a very important part of the landscape geometry found by David Furlong near Marlborough in Wiltshire and identifies Temple Farm, which is on this ley, as a focal point for great circle bearings to the Holy Land and the churches noted at the start of the Book of Revelations as detailed in previous posts.

The myths and legends surrounding Glastonbury are famous and it has been shown to have very ancient origins as a settlement site and later mystic centre of Britain.

Like the landscape design found by David Furlong, further to the east along this ley, it also has possible links to the key Revelation number of - 666.

John Michell in 'The New View Over Atlantis' proposes that the layout of the abbey at Glastonbury, destroyed in 1539 and based on a much earlier church said by some to be the first Christian church, is based on the numerical size of 666 which would provide a link to David Furlong's twin circles, 1:666 the size of the Earth, and of course the Book of Revelations.

The Saint Mary Chapel at the Glastonbury site which is apparently in the position of the original wattle church, linked by myth to Joseph of Arimathaea, was shown by the architect Mr Keith Critchlow to be based on the geometry of the 'vesica piscis'. This is the layout of twin circles with 'vesica' which located Temple Farm in the Furlong discoveries giving a focal point, based on the geometry of the Great Pyramid, for a great circle bearing to churches of Revelation.

Interesting numerical and geometric correlations. Was it knowledge or inspiration that led to these links or just pure chance ?

[laver]

The Saint Michael Alignment - Glastonbury - the Return

Saint Michael's Mount near the western end of this alignment was in local folklore said to have been visited by Michael and it is said he will return.

Glastonbury, on this alignment, is the mystic centre of Britain and is closely associated with Arthurian myth and legend who it is said will also return at a future date.

Avebury, the next major site on the alignment going east has local folklore that it will be important at a future date when the stones will speak.

Temple Farm on the alignment to the east of Avebury has just now been shown to have actual geometric and numerical links to The Book of Revelations which we are told is about what will happen in the future and about a return.

The alignment generally follows the rising of the sun on midsummers day, a return, and this would seem to have been a significance date in the spiritual beliefs of the people who designed and built some of these ancient monuments.

Should we not wonder if this indicates that we are seeing signs of Revelation... ?

[laver]

It should be noted that if these alignments, bearings and 'leys' are correct they were set out many thousands of years ago, long before the time of Abraham, and must have been an integral part of the spiritual beliefs of the people at that time. They were based on sacred sites that were not randomly selected but parts of a geometric design with presumably the intention that at some time in the future this would be realised and revealed.

As the geometric design now comes to light we have to wonder if this may be a time of Revelation and the links to the last book of the bible are strong

[laver]

Posted Today, 12:18 AM By Swede on the topic - Leylines

laver, on 30 June 2013 - 12:09 PM, said:

1. So you can only comment on a topic if you are 'qualified', a 'professional'. Qualifications are no substitute for inspiration, the two can go together but sometimes the former can inhibit the latter.

2. The Egyptian Exploration Fund was largely financed by clergymen to try and prove biblical accounts not a basis for investigation free of outside influence.

3. I am not 'slavish' to or an 'acolyte' of Mr David Furlong who I have never met or spoken to. He has written many books, I have read only one and some of that seemed

questionable. But his landscape geometry discoveries leading to possible ancient twin circular alignments on the Marlborough Downs with geometric links to the Great Pyramid and suggesting a key location, now known as Temple Farm, interested me.

Further investigation of this site showed that it seemed to be an important focal point of long distance bearings identifying alignments of ancient sites and one of these bearings clearly identifies the church locations which are the subject of the first 3 chapters of the Book of Revelations and then an important location on the Sea of Galilee in the Holy Land.

This is the subject of a seperate topic on UM, as you know, - Crop Circles just one sign of Revelation

The use of alignments of ancient and possibly ancient sites, or leylines, was a key part of David Furlong's discoveries hence the link to this topic.

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By Swede

1) Yet again, your close-reading skills would appear to be in need of improvement. Of course an uniformed individual is entitled to comment. However, when such comments are not supported by in-depth, qualified, and well-argued data (Swede #27), the credibility of such comments is notably compromised.

2) Your inferences in regards to the Egypt Exploration Fund (EEF), founded in 1882 and soon renamed the Egypt Exploration Society (EES), may be rather exaggerated.

• During the 19th century, and based upon the socio-cultural factors of the time, explorations based upon Biblical references were not uncommon. Nor, for that matter, are they necessarily uncommon today (e.g. BAR).
  
• The second and third excavations conducted by the EEF included a certain Flinders Petrie. You may be familiar with the significance of the documentation by this early Egyptologist.
  
• Robert Browning was a clergyman? Erasmus Wilson?
  
• And what do the early investigations of the EEF have to do with the credible support of your fantasy?
  

The rest of your most recent contribution is yet another recital of the mantra that you have reiterated numerous times.

Various elements of your argument have been addressed on virtually a point-by-point basis. And credible documentation has been provided that demonstrates that your premise is sorely lacking in related/valid historical/archaeological support.

In the light of the above and your apparent inability to produce credible research that would support your fantasy, it may be best to let this topic fade into a well-deserved obscurity.

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The above reply by Swede once again totally ignores that the landscape geometry that highlights churches of Revelation at the start of the last book of the bible is a fact as detailed in previous posts. It is not a 'fantasy' but out there on the landscape for anyone to check out if they wish.

The key bearing line is a great circle from a location found by the author David Furlong and written about in his book 'The Keys to the Temple' ( Judy Piatkus Publishers Ltd 1997). As previously noted some information on his discoveries can be found on David Furlong's web site.

The site he identifies on the Marlborough Downs in Wiltshire southern Britain using the geometry of the Great Pyramid is called Temple Farm, Latitude 51 degrees 27 mins North, Longitude 1 degree 48 mins West. From this location whole degree bearing lines identify ancient sites in the Holy Land and Eastern Mediterranean and one bearing,110 degrees, highlights the last 5 of the 7 churches of Revelation which seems to be confirmed in the text. The first 2 churches of Revelation form a second alignment from the Great Pyramid.

The discovery of the landscape geometry design linked to the Book of Revelations must raise the question.....Is this one sign of a time of Revelation ?

[laver]

Was the Great Pyramid just a tomb ?

The Great Pyramid, the subject of debate today as it has been for hundreds and probably thousands of years, is often cited as the tomb of King Khufu of Egypt but there are aspects of the way this pyramid was designed and built which make many people wonder whether this was its only purpose.

Experts argue the pros and cons of this and have noted the dimensions used with great accuracy in this amazing construction.

There are some strange coincidences, if coincidences they be, between the dimensions and ratios incorporated in this pyramid and mathematical formulae notably Pi, which resolves the geometry of circles, and Phi the Golden Mean proportion, the Fibonacci sequence and nature's 6 spiral.

The pyramid size measured around its four sides at the base is also equal to the circumference of a circle who's radius is the height of the pyramid. So it could be said to represent the link between the circle and the square.

Did the Ancient Egyptians, or some of them, know that they were building into this monument these important geometric and numeric messages ? It was clearly not just a huge pile of stones over a grave but a carefully designed and constructed monument and the last surviving of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World.

Did they do all this work as part of their spiritual beliefs ? It has been made clear that in all probability the huge labour force needed to construct the Great Pyramid over many years were not slaves but skilled masons and engineers so what was the motivation behind such a huge creation with its hidden mathematical and geometric messages ?

As previously noted on this UM topic the author David Furlong proposed that the geometry of the Great Pyramid fitted his geometric discoveries in Wiltshire leading to his focal point at Temple Farm which coincides with the upper or Kings Chamber in the pyramid. It has been established that there were very ancient links between Ancient Egypt and Britain so was the landscape geometry set out to lead us to this connection ?

The strange discovery that great circle bearings from the location of Temple Farm highlight alignments of ancient sites in the Holy Land and Eastern Mediterranean, and one bearing highlights the locations of churches noted at the start of the Book of Revelations, is a very curious discovery but is it a clue that we may be seeing signs of a time of Revelation ?

[DingoLingo]

Still laver? your still going on about this..

6 months.. 481 posts in this thread..

and still not one 'ah ha' post..

[laver]

Still laver? your still going on about this..

6 months.. 481 posts in this thread..

and still not one 'ah ha' post..

It is a very hard idea to grasp that long distance alignments exist and appear to have been set out thousands of years BCE. I quite appreciate that this is a strange proposal and would not have posted the topic on UM but for the even stranger links to the Holy Land and church locations specified for messages at the start of the book of Revelations.

Too many 'coincidences' to be ignored like the geometric and numeric 'coincidences' built into the Great Pyramid. You may wish to believe that this amazing structure is just a pile of stones to mark the grave of a king but for hundreds of years many clever people have pondered its significance and extensive research has been carried out.

David Furlong spotted a link between this mysterious structure and landscape geometry he had discovered in southern Britain, so if he is right the question arises why was this landscape geometry set out all those years ago ?

Taking his focal point at Temple Farm it does have geometric links to other ancient sacred sites but particularly churches of Revelation so that seems to be something that should be in the public domain.

You may mock and ridicule these ideas but just as an example please consider that many very well qualified experts said the Nebra Sky Discs was a joke, a forgery which could not be genuine because it indicated knowledge and skills which did not fit our ideas of people of that time. It is now generally accepted as a genuine artifact that changes everything. ( I did hear unconfirmed reports that materials for this object may have originated in Britain, Cornwall, and it makes one wonder if the knowledge also came from the same area with its ancient astronomical sites )

[DingoLingo]

It is a very hard idea to grasp that long distance alignments exist and appear to have been set out thousands of years BCE. I quite appreciate that this is a strange proposal and would not have posted the topic on UM but for the even stranger links to the Holy Land and church locations specified for messages at the start of the book of Revelations.

Too many 'coincidences' to be ignored like the geometric and numeric 'coincidences' built into the Great Pyramid. You may wish to believe that this amazing structure is just a pile of stones to mark the grave of a king but for hundreds of years many clever people have pondered its significance and extensive research has been carried out.

David Furlong spotted a link between this mysterious structure and landscape geometry he had discovered in southern Britain, so if he is right the question arises why was this landscape geometry set out all those years ago ?

Taking his focal point at Temple Farm it does have geometric links to other ancient sacred sites but particularly churches of Revelation so that seems to be something that should be in the public domain.

You may mock and ridicule these ideas but just as an example please consider that many very well qualified experts said the Nebra Sky Discs was a joke, a forgery which could not be genuine because it indicated knowledge and skills which did not fit our ideas of people of that time. It is now generally accepted as a genuine artifact that changes everything. ( I did hear unconfirmed reports that materials for this object may have originated in Britain, Cornwall, and it makes one wonder if the knowledge also came from the same area with its ancient astronomical sites )

problem is.. they do not 'exactly align' as many proponents suggest.. they roughly align in a ball park figure.. and some are kinda a few hundred K's off alignment

Edited July 5, 2013 by DingoLingo

[laver]

problem is.. they do not 'exactly align' as many proponents suggest.. they roughly align in a ball park figure.. and some are kinda a few hundred K's off alignment

As explained in previous posts there are 3 great circle bearing lines that go from Temple Farm to the Holy Land, 110 degrees, 111 degrees and 112 degrees and each one highlights ancient sites in this area.

The 110 degree bearing goes through present day Turkey and to the Sea of Galilee at the location of Mount Arbel/Magdala, present day Migdal.

It was noticed that where this bearing line passed through Turkey it had a geometric link to the last 5 of the 7 churches of Revelation which lie alternately to the south then north of this line i. e.

Pergamum 110.07

Thyatira 109.6

Sardis 110.18

Philadelphia 109.83

Laodicea 110.00

So all these sites are close to the 110 degree bearing line with the last, Laodicea, being on it and a comment in the message to Laodicea in the Book of Revelations refers ' I know all your ways, you are neither hot nor cold....' ( Chapter 3 v 15-16)

We have been already told that there is a 'secret meaning' in all these church sites that they are 'angels' or 'messengers', lamps to show the way (Chapter 1 v 20).

At a mountain by the Sea of Galilee which the disciples were directed to by Mary Magdalene, Mary of Magdala, a mountain special to Jesus as a meeting place he refers to the 'End of Time' ( Matthew 28) and it is a quite reasonable proposition that this mountain was Mount Arbel where the ancient settlement is also exactly on the 110 degree bearing line from Temple Farm in Wiltshire.

If you average the bearings to the 5 church sites noted above the result is just over 109.94 so less than .06 of a degree off the 110 degree bearing line on its route to the Holy Land and Magdala on the Sea of Galilee.

So there is a clear correlation between this bearing line, 110 degrees from Temple Farm, and the churches of Revelation with a second algnment from the Great Pyramid going to the first 2 churches of Revelation. The Great Pyramid geometry provides the clue to the landscape geometry discovered by David Furlong leading us to a location now known as Temple Farm.

You may wish to ignore this correlation but others might wonder if now this has been discovered .... are we at a time of Revelation ?

[DingoLingo]

ok.. quick question for you.. how does continental drift come into this theory..

considering the plates have drifted between 76 to 532 metres or 249.28 to 1744.96 feet in the past 3800 years.. the continents drift between 2 to 14 cm a year..

the pic above shows the direction the plates are moving..

[laver]

ok.. quick question for you.. how does continental drift come into this theory..

considering the plates have drifted between 76 to 532 metres or 249.28 to 1744.96 feet in the past 3800 years.. the continents drift between 2 to 14 cm a year..

the pic above shows the direction the plates are moving..

Good question

But I would guess that continental drift measured in a few metres over very long periods of time would have very little affect on bearings which are up to say 2000 miles in length. The difference in great circle bearing terms must be very small but could account for minor irregularities in the bearings. Of course if the drift is constant between the start and finish of the bearing it would not make any difference to the alignment.

The latitude and longitude of the locations are taken from generally accepted norms for the sites but these could vary depending on where they were taken on the site but the difference would be once again be very small and not affect the great circle bearings.

The pattern of this ancient landscape geometry would seem to be quite clear and raises very big questions about how it was set out thousands of years ago.. and why.

It would be a reasonable assumption that it was intended to be found at some time in the future and may suggest that this is a time of Revelation.

[DingoLingo]

Good question

But I would guess that continental drift measured in a few metres over very long periods of time would have very little affect on bearings which are up to say 2000 miles in length. The difference in great circle bearing terms must be very small but could account for minor irregularities in the bearings. Of course if the drift is constant between the start and finish of the bearing it would not make any difference to the alignment.

The latitude and longitude of the locations are taken from generally accepted norms for the sites but these could vary depending on where they were taken on the site but the difference would be once again be very small and not affect the great circle bearings.

The pattern of this ancient landscape geometry would seem to be quite clear and raises very big questions about how it was set out thousands of years ago.. and why.

It would be a reasonable assumption that it was intended to be found at some time in the future and may suggest that this is a time of Revelation.

ok a bit of a experiment for you.. get yourself a laser pointer.. put a small circle on your back fence or something and set the laser pointer on a table by the back of your house.. then point the laser dot on the circle.. then move the laser just a fraction and I mean a fraction.. then wander down and look at how far the laser dot has moved from the center of the circle..

now imagine that happening over a lot longer distance.. you will see how much a 2 cm drift would cause to your alignment theory..

[laver]

ok a bit of a experiment for you.. get yourself a laser pointer.. put a small circle on your back fence or something and set the laser pointer on a table by the back of your house.. then point the laser dot on the circle.. then move the laser just a fraction and I mean a fraction.. then wander down and look at how far the laser dot has moved from the center of the circle..

now imagine that happening over a lot longer distance.. you will see how much a 2 cm drift would cause to your alignment theory..

Look at it the other way round. A great circle bearing from say Temple Farm in Wiltshire to the Easter Mediterranean accurate to two decimal points will inevitably have a small range of physical locations in the Holy Land some 2000 miles away. If the location in the Holy Land, lets call it point X, has not moved relative to Temple Farm outside that range the great circle bearing will be the same. If X has moved in line with the bearing line there would be no change in the bearing to it.

If Temple Farm has moved in the same general direction as point X once again there would be no change in the bearing to it.

Point X has to move at right angles to the bearing line to take it outside the range for that bearing line and then it might only make a fraction of a degree difference and not materially affect the alignment theory.

The 5 church locations average 109.94 degrees so .06 of a degree off the 110 degree line. It is quite possible that the original set out of these locations thousands of years ago gave an average of 110 degrees but we can still see the correlation and ask if this is the 'secret meaning' mentioned in the Book of Revelations with the church locations acting as 'messengers' of a time of Revelation.

[laver]

ok a bit of a experiment for you.. get yourself a laser pointer.. put a small circle on your back fence or something and set the laser pointer on a table by the back of your house.. then point the laser dot on the circle.. then move the laser just a fraction and I mean a fraction.. then wander down and look at how far the laser dot has moved from the center of the circle..

now imagine that happening over a lot longer distance.. you will see how much a 2 cm drift would cause to your alignment theory..

Just to clarify the last post; your laser set up at Temple Farm on a particular bearing of say 110 degrees going to the Holy Land at Magdala will still be pointing in the same direction thousands of years later because this angle is measured from True North, i.e the north Pole of the Earth which will not have changed.

Temple Farm and Magdala may have moved a little over thousands of years and it is the difference between the movement of these two locations which might affect the angle over long periods of time. Over say 2000 miles a small extra movement by say Magdala would have a negligable affect on the bearing from Temple Farm and might not affect the bearing angle at all.

We know that there was the ability to set out ancient sites to True North. The Great Pyramid which is so important to the landscape geometry because of its geometry and as a landscape marker was set very accurately to True North.

[laver]

The Book of Revelations and the Landscape Geometry

In previous posts it has been pointed out that there are passages in the text of the Book of Revelations that may indicate a knowledge of the landscape geometric alignments of ancient sites and the alignment that would appear to highlight the last 5 of the 7 church locations chosen for messages in the first 3 chapters of the book.

We are told there is a 'secret meaning' in these churches ( Chapter 1 v 20 ) that they act as 'angels' or 'messengers' and lamps but what is the message they are meant to convey ?

Each of the 7 churches are sent messages in the first 3 chapters of the book some of which may be relevant but the message to the last of the churches, Laodicea, is of particular importance.

This is because the previously noted churches all fall alternately to the north and south of the 110 degree bearing line from Temple Farm, in southern Britain, but the last church is exactly on the bearing line before it leaves present day Turkey and crosses the Mediterranean Sea to the Holy Land at the Sea of Galilee location of Magdala.

If the 110 degree bearing line is being highlighted by the churches then the last church mentioned, being right on this line, must be of special importance. The message to Laodicea would seem to point to this importance.

In verse 15-16 of Chapter 3 is written to Laodicea.... 'I know all your ways; you are neither hot nor cold....'

This may refer to the fact that unlike the previous churches mentioned this church is not to the north or south of the bearing line but exactly on it.

In verse 20 of this chapter the book says to Laodicea

'Here I stand knocking at the door; if anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in........'

This is a famous image of Christ, sometimes with a lamp, at the door as this message to Laodicea says.... but where is this doorway ?

The verse says

'HERE I stand knocking......'

In other words it is the location of Laodicea that is the important doorway and this may be because it is this church site that

guides us to the 110 degree bearing from Temple Farm to the Sea of Galilee. It is on the line and the other 4 previous church sites complete the pattern leading to it.

So Laodicea is a key geometric and biblical site in Revelations and as this is now known and revealed must raise the question of whether this is a time of Revelation ?

[jmccr8]

Hi Laver,

I have followed this thread for some time now and I just wanted to say that for some people the church is when two or more are gathered in his name so that covers a lot of square mileage of this planets surface.In another sense a married couple who share the same faith and practiced their faith together would fall into the two being gathered in his name and could be considered a church.

On another note if for these locations were actually of some significance,that predated the Hebrew faith then god used other cultures to develop these sites so that his chosen ones(enter appropriate ego here) at the end of times could discover that it is the end of the world,.Is that what I think your saying?

jmccr8

[laver]

Hi Laver,

I have followed this thread for some time now and I just wanted to say that for some people the church is when two or more are gathered in his name so that covers a lot of square mileage of this planets surface.In another sense a married couple who share the same faith and practiced their faith together would fall into the two being gathered in his name and could be considered a church.

On another note if for these locations were actually of some significance,that predated the Hebrew faith then god used other cultures to develop these sites so that his chosen ones(enter appropriate ego here) at the end of times could discover that it is the end of the world,.Is that what I think your saying?

jmccr8

Hi

I don't think, personally, that a 'time of Revelation' or 'End of Time or Age' need equate to 'the end of the world' and this would seem to be indicated by comments in the Book of Revelations.

The locations that seem to be highlighted by the Landscape Geometry are very old, many are now known to date to long before the time of Abraham, and clearly had a sacred or spiritual significance to people over thousands of years. If they can now be seen to have geometric links then this must have been set out in the earliest of times and presumably on the basis that at some time in the future these geometric links would be discovered. As these geometric links can now be seen is this an indication that we are at a time of Revelation ?

It was a strange discovery that the churches of Revelation seemed to be linked to the Landscape Geometry from Temple Farm to the Holy Land. These locations are not generally known to have very ancient origins, Ephesus does have origins that may date back to the Neolithic period, but we are informed they where selected on a 'divine' basis. So Christ, we are told, selected these sites and sent messages to them. The fact that the important 110 degree bearing line then goes to the Holy Land at Mount Arbel and Magdala is also worthy of note.

You say that these sites may 'predate the Hebrew faith' and this would seem to be true, and that 'god' created the geometric links ?

I do not know how the ancient landscape design came to be set out but one thing seems clear it was done by an 'intelligence' that does not conform to our present established understanding of people at that time.

[laver]

A summary of the story so far - signs of Revelation ?

1. Ancient Landscape Geometry leading to messages in the Book of Revelations ?

Is the Great Pyramid just a very well arranged pile of stones to commemorate a rather obscure king of Egypt or does it's design and construction indicate that it holds geometric and numerical clues which with it's location could guide us to the resolving of very ancient mysteries ?

Many people have studied this great monument over hundreds of years and it certainly has some hidden messages but what was the purpose of the designer builders in putting these into this massive structure ?

It would be reasonable to suggest that they were intended to be found at some time in the future but how would this happen ?

Researchers found mathematic and geometric ratios in the design of this pyramid but if these were intentionally included how would these be important in the future and when would this come to light ?

It now seems very likely that this would only happen when a layout of Landscape Geometry was found thousands of miles away in southern Britain which matched the proportions and details of the Great Pyramid.

This Landscape Geometry was found by the author David Furlong and he wrote about it in his book 'The Keys to the Temple' which was published in 1997.

Working from maps of the Marlborough Downs in Wiltshire he found two overlapping circles of equal size forming a vesica shape from which he was able to replicate the design of the Great Pyramid and it's upper or King's Chamber fell at a location now known as Temple Farm.

If he is correct and there was an ancient link between the design of this pyramid in Egypt and his geometric discoveries in Britain then there would presumably have to be a reason that this was set out thousands of years ago. Why would this have been done ?

In trying to answer this question it was subsequently discovered that from this location of Temple Farm whole degree bearing lines produced alignments of ancient sites in the Holy Land and the surroundng area and one of these bearing lines on its way from Temple Farm to the northern district at the Sea of Galilee passes through present day Turkey which is where the 7 church sites chosen for messages at the start of the Book of Revelations are located. There is a correlation between this bearing line and 5 of the 7 church sites and this is supported by parts of the text of this book all as noted in previous posts on UM. The other 2 churches form an alignment from the Great Pyramid itself.

The Book of Revelations is believed to have been written between about 70-90 of the current era and is included in the New Testament as the last book of the Bible. It was written by 'John' on, he says, the island of Patmos as a prophecy which we are told to heed. There are of course many interpretations of this short book but the first 3 chapters are quite clear as they consist of messages to the 7 named churches in Asia, present day Turkey.

The text of Revelations (Ch 1 v 20) indicates that there is a secret meaning in these church locations and the last named church, Laodicea, is particularly significant lying directly on the bearing line from Temple Farm with a possible reference to this in the message to this church being neither hot nor cold and also in this message the writer indicates that Laodicea is where he ( Christ ?) is 'knocking at the door' (Ch 3 v 20) which may indicate that this is a very important location both geometrically and to the writer / author of the Book of Revelations.

So as we now know about the geometry of the Great Pyramid, the landscape geometry in Wiltshire and how that links through Temple Farm to details in the Book of Revelations it is surely valid to ask if this is a time of Revelation ?

2. Crop Circles - Some of these designs raise questions about how they were created. The focal point of these designs over recent years is in Wiltshire, the same location as the focal point of the landscape geometry, so it is a valid suggestion that some designs could be a sign of a time of Revelation ?

3. The Mayan Calendar - Why did this calendar set this moment in time to be the end of a time cycle of over 5000 years ? Could this also indicate that we are at a time of Revelation ?

Of course there will be the critics and detractors of these proposals. Items 2 and 3 are speculations, although based on facts, but item 1 is a purely factual account about things that have been found on the landscape; the Great Pyramid with its ratios and geometric clues; the landscape geometry based on sites shown by David Furlong, in his book and on his website, to be the basis of his discoveries which take us to Temple Farm. The bearing lines from Temple Farm that align ancient sites in the Holy Land and highlight churches of Revelation actually exist. Much as some people might like to think they are imaginary they would seem to be messages based on very ancient knowledge and skill in setting them out which we must assume would only have been done if at some time they would be revealed and this would be a time of Revelation.

'Happy is the man who heeds the words of prophecy contained in this book........' ( Rev Ch 22 v 7 )

[laver]

An interesting crop design was reported on 15th July at Hackpen Hill Nr Broad Wiltshire in the UK. (see Crop Circle Connector for details)

This design, as can be clearly seen, is a multiple use of the Vesica Piscis geometric shape and this shape is fundamental to the ancient landscape geometry proposed by the author David Furlong in his book 'The Keys to the Temple' as noted in previous posts.

This design may or may not be manmade but could be worth a note as the Furlong geometry leads us to the location of Temple Farm and thence to the cities of the Book of Revelations.

[laver]

If there is a geometric layout of ancient sacred sites that was set out in the very earliest times is there any indication of this in ancient writings particularly from Ancient Egypt with the apparent importance of the Great Pyramid as a marker and holder of geometric clues in its design and construction ?

From G R S Mead ' Thrice Greatest Hermes' we have Isis talking to Horus, her son....

'...unto men,--except so far that God the monarch, the universal orderer and architect, sent for a little while thy mighty sire Osiris, and the mightiest

p. 218

[paragraph continues] Goddess Isis, that they might help the world, for all things needed them.

'Tis they who filled life full of life. 'Tis they who caused the savagery of mutual slaughtering of men to cease. 'Tis they who hallowed precincts to the gods their ancestors and spots for holy rites. 'Tis they who gave to men laws, food, and shelter.....'

It would appear that ' hallowed precincts to the gods' and 'spots for holy rites' were believed to have been set out by Isis and Osiris and the question arises... were these sacred sites set out to an ancient geometric pattern ?

How were these sites chosen and if they remained sacred locations to people over thousands of years is that why they form geometric alignments on the landscape down to the present day ?

If a geometric layout was used thousands of years ago it was presumably intended that one day this would be noticed... is now that time ?

[Quaentum]

The upper chamber or Kings Chamber in the Great Pyramid is 2/7ths of the way up the 7 units of its height, 2 units from the bottom and 5 units from the top. The ratio is again 5 : 2.

This is not valid since it uses the height as it is now know not what the height might be with the missing cap stone. Since the size of the cap stone is unknown the calculations can not be said to be accurate.

[Quaentum]

DieChecker yesterday 09.14

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'Any prophesy, or cypher, or other knowledge that gives the timing of the end of days is false information.'

Rather a broad statement as we are told to 'Keep Watch'....for what?

If the landscape geometry with its geometric links to the Book of Revelations is correct who would know when it would be discovered and revealed?

That would depend on the work of many people over many years; who could tell when the various strands of information would come together?

Revelations was clearly written with messages for us to work out the meaning of, for example the repeated use of the number 7 which is so important in the 7 church sites and also in the geometry of the Great Pyramid and the twin circle with vesica design found on the landscape of Wiltshire by David Furlong.

Here is another one for you

'Here is the key; and anyone who has intelligence may work out the number of the beast. The number represents a man's name, and the numerical value of its letters is six hundred and sixty-six'

Revelations Chapter 13 v 18 ( New English Bible version)

This famous or infamous number, 666, is obviously important in the book but does it relate to the landscape geometry found by David Furlong and leading to the focal point of Temple Farm with its bearing line highlighting the churches of Revelation ?

David Furlong wrote in 'The Keys to the Temple' that the two circles he discovered were just under 6 miles in radius and that taking a circumference of 60.171 kilometers and the 'World Almanac' equatorial circumference of the earth as 40,074.06 kilometers the ratio is 1:666.

So built into the landscape geometry is this ratio 1:666 which is a very important number in the Book of Revelations......coincidence ?

You may well say that it is but other UM users may feel that these clues in Revelations that relate to the landscape geometry are significant.

Since the Bible indicates that 666 is the number of a mans name and not something to do with the land, it is not coincidence but you trying to make the scriptures fit your beliefs.

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Was the Great Pyramid just a tomb ?

All existing evidence points to it being built as a tomb for the Pharaoh.

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A summary of the story so far - signs of Revelation ?

1. Ancient Landscape Geometry leading to messages in the Book of Revelations ?

Is the Great Pyramid just a very well arranged pile of stones to commemorate a rather obscure king of Egypt or does it's design and construction indicate that it holds geometric and numerical clues which with it's location could guide us to the resolving of very ancient mysteries ?

Many people have studied this great monument over hundreds of years and it certainly has some hidden messages but what was the purpose of the designer builders in putting these into this massive structure ?

It would be reasonable to suggest that they were intended to be found at some time in the future but how would this happen ?

Researchers found mathematic and geometric ratios in the design of this pyramid but if these were intentionally included how would these be important in the future and when would this come to light ?

It now seems very likely that this would only happen when a layout of Landscape Geometry was found thousands of miles away in southern Britain which matched the proportions and details of the Great Pyramid.

This Landscape Geometry was found by the author David Furlong and he wrote about it in his book 'The Keys to the Temple' which was published in 1997.

Working from maps of the Marlborough Downs in Wiltshire he found two overlapping circles of equal size forming a vesica shape from which he was able to replicate the design of the Great Pyramid and it's upper or King's Chamber fell at a location now known as Temple Farm.

If he is correct and there was an ancient link between the design of this pyramid in Egypt and his geometric discoveries in Britain then there would presumably have to be a reason that this was set out thousands of years ago. Why would this have been done ?

In trying to answer this question it was subsequently discovered that from this location of Temple Farm whole degree bearing lines produced alignments of ancient sites in the Holy Land and the surroundng area and one of these bearing lines on its way from Temple Farm to the northern district at the Sea of Galilee passes through present day Turkey which is where the 7 church sites chosen for messages at the start of the Book of Revelations are located. There is a correlation between this bearing line and 5 of the 7 church sites and this is supported by parts of the text of this book all as noted in previous posts on UM. The other 2 churches form an alignment from the Great Pyramid itself.

The Book of Revelations is believed to have been written between about 70-90 of the current era and is included in the New Testament as the last book of the Bible. It was written by 'John' on, he says, the island of Patmos as a prophecy which we are told to heed. There are of course many interpretations of this short book but the first 3 chapters are quite clear as they consist of messages to the 7 named churches in Asia, present day Turkey.

The text of Revelations (Ch 1 v 20) indicates that there is a secret meaning in these church locations and the last named church, Laodicea, is particularly significant lying directly on the bearing line from Temple Farm with a possible reference to this in the message to this church being neither hot nor cold and also in this message the writer indicates that Laodicea is where he ( Christ ?) is 'knocking at the door' (Ch 3 v 20) which may indicate that this is a very important location both geometrically and to the writer / author of the Book of Revelations.

So as we now know about the geometry of the Great Pyramid, the landscape geometry in Wiltshire and how that links through Temple Farm to details in the Book of Revelations it is surely valid to ask if this is a time of Revelation ?

2. Crop Circles - Some of these designs raise questions about how they were created. The focal point of these designs over recent years is in Wiltshire, the same location as the focal point of the landscape geometry, so it is a valid suggestion that some designs could be a sign of a time of Revelation ?

3. The Mayan Calendar - Why did this calendar set this moment in time to be the end of a time cycle of over 5000 years ? Could this also indicate that we are at a time of Revelation ?

Of course there will be the critics and detractors of these proposals. Items 2 and 3 are speculations, although based on facts, but item 1 is a purely factual account about things that have been found on the landscape; the Great Pyramid with its ratios and geometric clues; the landscape geometry based on sites shown by David Furlong, in his book and on his website, to be the basis of his discoveries which take us to Temple Farm. The bearing lines from Temple Farm that align ancient sites in the Holy Land and highlight churches of Revelation actually exist. Much as some people might like to think they are imaginary they would seem to be messages based on very ancient knowledge and skill in setting them out which we must assume would only have been done if at some time they would be revealed and this would be a time of Revelation.

'Happy is the man who heeds the words of prophecy contained in this book........' ( Rev Ch 22 v 7 )

The time frame from the Great Pyramid to crop circles is several millennia. None of the separate elements had anything to do with each other and some were not aware of the others.

If you include the Mayan Calendar in your hypothesis then the end times aren't for another 207 years. Dutch research showed there were errors made when trying to align the Mayan Calendar with the modern day calendar. The errors had to do with the phases of Venus. When the errors were corrected it was found that the Mayan Calendar does not end until 2220