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why don't they come forward?

Criminal tresspass, criminal damage, waste of police time, vandalism...

I gotta agree, it's mind boggling as to why the people who do this would want to remain anonomous.

Because if there is a real message in the crop designs which is not manmade it would challenge belief systems, so fight it, after all we are all a bit afraid of the unknown.

But this may be a time when we have to seek the truth and not hide behind old dogma.

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Because if there is a real message in the crop designs which is not manmade it would challenge belief systems, so fight it, after all we are all a bit afraid of the unknown.

But this may be a time when we have to seek the truth and not hide behind old dogma.

IF there is a real message, then the aliens by now should have realised we're idiots and will stop scribbling on our wheat.

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The Barbury Castle Pi Formation is located on Earth. It is quite terrestrial.

There is less evidence these crop circles are extra-terrestrial. Just ask Enrico Fermi.

The evidence for a mathematical message in some of these designs is in the designs which can be viewed with explanations on many internet sites. The evidence that these are manmade designs is ....' a friend of mine has a friend who told him that he knew someone who designed and made this circle but wants to remain anonymous....Ya Ya... I know what I would rather believe !

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IF there is a real message, then the aliens by now should have realised we're idiots and will stop scribbling on our wheat.

Ha Ha but they may have now been doing it for years. Very clever people have decoded some of the mathematical messages that the designs appear to be sending us so we are not complete idiots.... just on a learning curve...

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The evidence for a mathematical message in some of these designs is in the designs which can be viewed with explanations on many internet sites. The evidence that these are manmade designs is ....' a friend of mine has a friend who told him that he knew someone who designed and made this circle but wants to remain anonymous....Ya Ya... I know what I would rather believe !

You're entitled to your druthers.

However, as you rightly point out, these designs are well understood by humans.

Is Jim Sanborn an extra-terrestrial because his work remains undeciphered?

I don't agree that your preference in belief is reasonable.

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Ha Ha but they may have now been doing it for years. Very clever people have decoded some of the mathematical messages that the designs appear to be sending us so we are not complete idiots.... just on a learning curve...

You communicate with a baby in the knowledge it'll one day communicate back to you.

However, if someone can communicate with you and chooses not to usually leads to communication stopping.

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It is generally claimed that ‘modern’ crop circle formations first appeared in the late 1970s, at least in Britain, however that is not entirely correct, during the 1960s there were earlier reports of circular formations from other places, particularly Australia and Canada. The concept of crop circles in the UK however, began indeed with the original 1970s hoaxes by Bower and Chorley.

Those are facts. Any other claim about crop circles.....well.....I'm still waiting for the proof, scientific, empirical proof. Not just "gut-feelings", hunches or other such things. People have proven they can create very complexe shapes in less than 3 hours using the above-mentionned method with a plank of wood. What has not been proven is any involvement of aliens, or other extraordinary agent.

Also I would like to know who these "Very clever people" are, that have decoded the alleged messages.

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why don't they come forward?

Criminal tresspass, criminal damage, waste of police time, vandalism...

I gotta agree, it's mind boggling as to why the people who do this would want to remain anonomous.

that and the fact circle makers have been threatend by believers for duping them :)

Sak mate.. ask your buddies to do one.. have them open a swiss bank account.. and have them do it in math with the message 'deposit a 1000 pounds into this account and you will be saved'

a number of 'believers' will do it :P

laver.. you have been duped.. and in a major way..

and you ask why the circle guys do it.. heck for the giggles mate.. for the giggles.. having a bunch of people run around saying the crop circle is alien.. pretty much when a crowd of believers gather to look at the circle.. you will find one or two of the circle makers there.. expressing the same opinions but really laughing the asses off inside..

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the first e er recorded crop cicle was the fsult of the devil BTW, not aliens.

A farmer, refusing to pay his workwrs said in a fitof pique "well the devil can cut the wheat then" and loe-and-behold, someone or somthing did cut the wheat thst very night.

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that and the fact circle makers have been threatend by believers for duping them :)

Sak mate.. ask your buddies to do one.. have them open a swiss bank account.. and have them do it in math with the message 'deposit a 1000 pounds into this account and you will be saved'

a number of 'believers' will do it :P

laver.. you have been duped.. and in a major way..

and you ask why the circle guys do it.. heck for the giggles mate.. for the giggles.. having a bunch of people run around saying the crop circle is alien.. pretty much when a crowd of believers gather to look at the circle.. you will find one or two of the circle makers there.. expressing the same opinions but really laughing the asses off inside..

Some of the "cropologists" are actually artists, which you can compare to graffiti artists in cities. Both kinds would get a severe beating or a legal charge, if caught performing their art. And to be honest, people should just appreciate the criop circles for what they are, something visually stimulating and beautifull.

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During 40s and 50s villagers in Bosnia and Herzegovina reported crop circles. But they connected them with whirlwind. They were simple cirlces. No faces or signs.

I wonder since mind can affect matter could one developed that skill more or was born that way so he can crate crop circles with mind... thoughts...

I spoke to one person who defenetly dont have any psychological problems who claim that he twice "summon" lights in the sky. I explain to him that is probably Plasma.

Whatever it does he claim that he summon it. He watched to the night sky and he wasnt sure that he somehow knew that lights would appear or that he seek and summon them.

But he looked and they appeared. Twice in his life time.

Strange how it sounds but I wonder can some peoples idea be manifested in real world...

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You're entitled to your druthers.

However, as you rightly point out, these designs are well understood by humans.

Is Jim Sanborn an extra-terrestrial because his work remains undeciphered?

I don't agree that your preference in belief is reasonable.

Thats ok we can each have our own opinions and come to our own conclusions on a balance of probabilites. Being a casual bystander on the issue of crop designs with no vested interest either way except that the main area where these designs appear is the Wiltshire area of Britain which because of the number of ancient sacred sites was clearly a significant location thousands of years ago. David Furlong's landscape geometry in this area is well researched and cannot be just dismissed and the key location he identifies, Temple Farm, is on the Saint Michael alignment a proposed 'ley' line through Britain. There have been crop circles at this farm.

The fact that Temple Farm is part of a landscape geometric design of ancient sites with great circle bearing lines that align many locations in the Holy Land and 5 of the 7 churches noted at the start of the Book of Revelations before going to the Sea of Galilee at Magdala links these locations to the story of Jesus which is confirmed by other biblical references.

This geometric design is based on the Latitude and Longitude of the sites and is a fact. If it is just a coincidence it is a very strange one because of the number of sites involved. In the Book of Revelations Chapter 1 verse 20 we are told that there is a secret meaning in these churches which we clearly are being also told to find. It is a reasonable assumption that the secret meaning is the way the church locations fit a bearing line from Temple Farm and a seperate alignment from the Great Pyramid.

It is a mystery as to how this landscape geometry could have been set out thousands of years ago but it is there on the landscape to be seen by anyone who cares to look.

It might be coincidental that the Wiltshire area is also the focal point of crop circle activity but equally it might not and if the secret meaning in Revelations is the alignments that have been noted then crop designs may be a sign of a time of Revelation.

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People have been seeing the signs of the end of the world based on the Bookof Revelation according to John since about three days after the bok was published.

Sadly, IMO, peopl who do so are missing the point of the Bok which is "no matter how bad things get, the good guys win, HURRAH!".

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That only works if you actually believe there is such a thing as a landscape geometric design of ancient sites or ley lines and that the bible is more than just a book used by a religion to manipulate the masses.

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The phenomena of crop circles which has developed over the last 30 or so years is a mystery not because they are all 'real' and not hoaxes but because some of them are definitely 'real' and beyond rational explanation. These 'real' ones clearly have mathematical and geometric messages some of which have been decoded as anyone who has followed the rise of these designs will realise. But why are we getting these messages at this particular time in the evolution of humankind? Are they the only signs that we may be at a pivotal point in our long history on planet Earth?

Its been shown to you that human beings can make complex crop circles that contain mathematical meaning. There has never been a crop circle that cannot be explained by human activity. Your claim falls down at the first hurdle.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the end of the Mayan Long Count Calendar it is a fact that the experts tell us that after a time cycle of over 5000 years the calendar stopped for whatever reason. This time cycle started at a time over 3000 years BCE when there was a great deal of activity building stone monuments in various places in our world but noteably Wiltshire in southern Britain which of course is the centre of the crop circle activites we are experiencing today. People travel from all over the world to this area to look at the crop designs in this particular location with its many Stone Age sites like Avebury and Stonehenge.

It could just be a coincidence of course that crop circle activity happens to centre around an area that has many important Stone Age sites but there is another factor which we should consider.

The Maya calendar didn't "stop for whatever reason". What are they supposed to do, draw an infinite calendar?

Stonehenge was constructed between 3100 and 1600 BCE, the earliest megaliths were in Spain and Portugal around 5000 BCE. So that's a mighty wide net you're casting there. You're bound to find something that matches up.

In a seperate thread on Imaginative Worlds - Revelation Time?- it is revealed that in an important verse in the Book of Revelations (chapter1 verse20) we are told that there is a 'secret meaning' in the 7 churches named in the text. This 'secret meaning' has now been decoded and relates to great circle alignments of these churches named by Jesus. This is a geometric fact, for whatever reason, and the main alignment of 5 of these churches then goes to the Sea of Galilee and a location now called Migdal, the biblical Magdala, home of Mary of Magdala the close companion and confidant of Jesus. At this location, Mount Arbel next to Magdala, Jesus talks about the End of Time.(Mathew 28)

What has this to do with crop circles and ancient stone monuments in southern Britain? you might ask.

You're cherry-picking again. Why are you ignoring 2 of the churches? You also seem to failed to state what the "secret meaning" of the churches actually is, a bit of a glaring error as its what your entire argument hinges on.

Secondly, Migdal was simply named after Migdala Nunia, the birthplace of Mary. It was founded in the early 1900s at that location because the founders guessed that Mary might have been born there. There is no evidence that Migdala actually existed, nor is it clear that the name "Mary Magdalene" even means that's where she's from.

Third, only 3 of the 7 churches actually align with (the now irrelevant) Migdal - Pergamum, Sardis and Laodicea. By saying that 5 do, is not only ignoring 2 churches but also casting your net very wide. Again.

So, you're being very liberal with your meanings, measurements and timescales, meaning this is all proof of nothing I'm afraid.

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Its been shown to you that human beings can make complex crop circles that contain mathematical meaning. There has never been a crop circle that cannot be explained by human activity. Your claim falls down at the first hurdle.

The Maya calendar didn't "stop for whatever reason". What are they supposed to do, draw an infinite calendar?

Stonehenge was constructed between 3100 and 1600 BCE, the earliest megaliths were in Spain and Portugal around 5000 BCE. So that's a mighty wide net you're casting there. You're bound to find something that matches up.

You're cherry-picking again. Why are you ignoring 2 of the churches? You also seem to failed to state what the "secret meaning" of the churches actually is, a bit of a glaring error as its what your entire argument hinges on.

Secondly, Migdal was simply named after Migdala Nunia, the birthplace of Mary. It was founded in the early 1900s at that location because the founders guessed that Mary might have been born there. There is no evidence that Migdala actually existed, nor is it clear that the name "Mary Magdalene" even means that's where she's from.

Third, only 3 of the 7 churches actually align with (the now irrelevant) Migdal - Pergamum, Sardis and Laodicea. By saying that 5 do, is not only ignoring 2 churches but also casting your net very wide. Again.

So, you're being very liberal with your meanings, measurements and timescales, meaning this is all proof of nothing I'm afraid.

On reading your post a Shakespeare quote came to mind

'The lady doth protest too much, methinks' - so what is your agenda?

Taking your points in turn

Crop circles are a mystery and no one has proved that the very complex designs could be created in the dark, overnight without being detected.

The Mayan Calendar has just finished, fact. Coincidence ? maybe but worth taking note of.

I have not ignored the first two churches of Revelations they form a seperate alignment from the Great Pyramid.

The secret meaning of Rev Ch1 v20 is explained as the alignment of these churches within a much more extensive design of ancient landscape geometry which is a fact.

Bearing lines from Temple Farm identify the alignment of ancient sites and one great circle bearing highlights the last 5 churches before going to Mount Arbel and Magdala on the shores of the Sea of Galilee

Magdala / Magdala Nunayya / Al Majdal are all names for the ancient site now called Migdal and the majority opinion is that this location was the place that Mary Magdalene, Mary of Magdala, was named after.

There are currently excavations at this location because of this called the Magdala Centre Project

The importance of Mary of Magdala in the story of Christ has for many hundreds of years been covered up and denied but even the chuch today has withdrawn some of the false accusations made against her. She was the closest person to Jesus and his messenger, his companion and confidant. If we consider the geometric messages linking churches of Revelation, her town Magdala and other sites the obvious conclusion is that Mary may well have also been part of the message in drawing attention to a landscape layout of ancient sites which must have been set out at least 3000 years before the time of Mary of Magdala and Jesus.

Obviously there is a limit to the amount of information that can be included on a site like this but a manuscript is being completed which will hopefully be published soon with full details of the findings of this research.

You might then wish to reconsider your comments on the matter

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On reading your post a Shakespeare quote came to mind

'The lady doth protest too much, methinks' - so what is your agenda?

Taking your points in turn

Crop circles are a mystery and no one has proved that the very complex designs could be created in the dark, overnight without being detected.

The Mayan Calendar has just finished, fact. Coincidence ? maybe but worth taking note of.

I have not ignored the first two churches of Revelations they form a seperate alignment from the Great Pyramid.

The secret meaning of Rev Ch1 v20 is explained as the alignment of these churches within a much more extensive design of ancient landscape geometry which is a fact.

Bearing lines from Temple Farm identify the alignment of ancient sites and one great circle bearing highlights the last 5 churches before going to Mount Arbel and Magdala on the shores of the Sea of Galilee

Magdala / Magdala Nunayya / Al Majdal are all names for the ancient site now called Migdal and the majority opinion is that this location was the place that Mary Magdalene, Mary of Magdala, was named after.

There are currently excavations at this location because of this called the Magdala Centre Project

The importance of Mary of Magdala in the story of Christ has for many hundreds of years been covered up and denied but even the chuch today has withdrawn some of the false accusations made against her. She was the closest person to Jesus and his messenger, his companion and confidant. If we consider the geometric messages linking churches of Revelation, her town Magdala and other sites the obvious conclusion is that Mary may well have also been part of the message in drawing attention to a landscape layout of ancient sites which must have been set out at least 3000 years before the time of Mary of Magdala and Jesus.

Obviously there is a limit to the amount of information that can be included on a site like this but a manuscript is being completed which will hopefully be published soon with full details of the findings of this research.

You might then wish to reconsider your comments on the matter

Well if you know Emma, you know here avatar is called Emma Acid for a reason. However we all like her fine the way she is. As to your facts, well.......how to say this....they are in need of revision my dear Laver.

Crop circles are no mystery at all, it has been documented and filmed how they have been made, in the dark, wirthout being detected. please see the following :

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For info, these chaps did actually pay the farmer so they could do it during the day.

The mayan calendar ends? Are you 100% sure of this? Because it actually doesn't really, a cycle ends and a new one begins, also the ancient Maya civilization documented calendar dates beyond 2012 (see here). I mean it's like saying whenever the calendar in my toilet reaches the end of december, the world is going to end. Silly really.

I'm not going into the landscape geometry, because I personally believe it's a bunch of idiocies. To crosslink different periods in time, cultures and continents, to fit one's delusions, well I just don't fly like that.

The only thing I will agree with is the fact that Mary of Magdala has been somewhat downplayed and adapted by the Christian church and that she in fact was indeed the companion and confidant of the historical caracter called Jesus. To what end? Well I would imagine it was political in nature. As in, Women having a bigger role in the new faith and the discipels feeling screwed over by a woman of all people.

So hello Pot, meet Mrs Kettle...... facts if unchecked or interpreted badly can be fickle things.....

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first things first... Welcome back Searcher

I was able to view the video.. and it's like .. so what. Yes, you can make crop CIRCLES that way... but it's the more complex designs involving curves that puzzle me as to how they were 'done'. Like this one post-86645-0-11498100-1357304781_thumb.j

Where does a person stand to lay out those arcs? The nifty smashy foot boards would be nearly useless in executing a design such as this?

I don't think aliens have anything to do with crop designs. I also don't think they have all been adequately explained away with smashy foot boards and measuring tapes. I'm SKEPTICAL :w00t:

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'The lady doth protest too much, methinks' - so what is your agenda?

So anyone who pulls you up on your claims has to have an agenda??

Crop circles are a mystery and no one has proved that the very complex designs could be created in the dark, overnight without being detected.

Crop circles really aren't a mystery. Its been shown pretty thoroughly how complex ones can be made over night.

The Mayan Calendar has just finished, fact. Coincidence ? maybe but worth taking note of

It hasn't just finished, any more than ours finishes on December 31st.

I have not ignored the first two churches of Revelations they form a seperate alignment from the Great Pyramid.

As I said, the first 5 aren't in alignment, and its hardly difficult to join 3 points together (especially when 2 are next to each other).

The secret meaning of Rev Ch1 v20 is explained as the alignment of these churches within a much more extensive design of ancient landscape geometry which is a fact.

Nicely vague. You haven't actually stated what in Revelations points to this, or what the "design of the ancient landscape geometry" is, or even how they fit together. None of which are "facts".

Bearing lines from Temple Farm identify the alignment of ancient sites and one great circle bearing highlights the last 5 churches before going to Mount Arbel and Magdala on the shores of the Sea of Galilee

Magdala / Magdala Nunayya / Al Majdal are all names for the ancient site now called Migdal and the majority opinion is that this location was the place that Mary Magdalene, Mary of Magdala, was named after.

I've already stated - Migdal was founded in the early 1900s, and was not on the site of an early known settlement. The founders guessed as to where Mary might have been born.

I'm tempted to ignore these "circle alignments", as I've already shown how loose your definition of an alignment actually is.

There are currently excavations at this location because of this called the Magdala Centre Project

As I said, Migdal was named after the Biblical town of Magdala, but isn't necessarily in the same location, altho there does seem to be a general tendency to refer to them as the same place now - when people say "Magdala", they mean Migdal, even though Magdala isn't known to have actually existed.

There is no evidence that Mary Magdalene means "Mary from Magdala".

The importance of Mary of Magdala in the story of Christ has for many hundreds of years been covered up and denied but even the chuch today has withdrawn some of the false accusations made against her. She was the closest person to Jesus and his messenger, his companion and confidant. If we consider the geometric messages linking churches of Revelation, her town Magdala and other sites the obvious conclusion is that Mary may well have also been part of the message in drawing attention to a landscape layout of ancient sites which must have been set out at least 3000 years before the time of Mary of Magdala and Jesus.

A lot of huge assumptions, no?

Obviously there is a limit to the amount of information that can be included on a site like this but a manuscript is being completed which will hopefully be published soon with full details of the findings of this research.

You might then wish to reconsider your comments on the matter

I have seen nothing that will make me reconsider any of my comments.

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first things first... Welcome back Searcher

I was able to view the video.. and it's like .. so what. Yes, you can make crop CIRCLES that way... but it's the more complex designs involving curves that puzzle me as to how they were 'done'. Like this one post-86645-0-11498100-1357304781_thumb.j

Where does a person stand to lay out those arcs? The nifty smashy foot boards would be nearly useless in executing a design such as this?

I don't think aliens have anything to do with crop designs. I also don't think they have all been adequately explained away with smashy foot boards and measuring tapes. I'm SKEPTICAL :w00t:

You'll notice that that design is still based on circles as well, so it's a question of moving the centre point very, very precisely, every time for every arc line. Pain in the butt to do, but not beyond doing this with a foot board at all. I think you would have to make the outer circle first and use that one to focus the arcs you use for the inside. start at one point and move a few feet sideways after every arc is made.

Here's

made with such nifty smashy foot boards. ;)

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thanks Searcher, that's a sensible explanation actually. ... If i see the center point of each circle falling within the perimeter of the overall circle.. which it seems to. So , yup.. the design is based on Two sets of circles. The ones forming the arcs .. and .. concentric circles falling at the transitions of the 'light' and 'dark' parts of the pattern. Hmmm .. maybe this one is "doable" by ordinary humanoids. lol

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That only works if you actually believe there is such a thing as a landscape geometric design of ancient sites or ley lines and that the bible is more than just a book used by a religion to manipulate the masses.

You do not have to just believe in landscape geometry if sites align or form patterns in the landscape that is either true or false which can be established on a scientific basis. It is then a matter of deciding if this is just a coincidence, pure chance, or evidence of a design. That comes down to two main factors 1 )how many of these sites form the alignment and 2) If it is a design would that design tell us anything. There are many aligned sites in the Holy Land and eastern Mediterranean area when you know the coordinates to establish the bearing lines. This is way beyond the possibility of coincidence.

Going to point 2) If this is evidence of a design what might it tell us?

It is very old. From the known age of the sites at least 3000 BCE so 5000 years old and possibly very much older.

It demonstrates abilities that are way outside our present understanding of people at that time

The monument markers were stone, where they remain, so meant to be durable

The sites appear to be dedicated to the gods and goddesses of the people at that time

The people in general probably did not know about the long distance alignments but knew the locations were sacred

Strong indications that probably a priesthood in Egypt did know about the geometry

Strong indications that Jesus and Mary of Magdala did know about the geometry

Strong indications that some of those who wrote the bible did know about the geometry

Strong indications that there were clues written into the bible

We were at some time meant to find these clues when the geometry could be revealed

This would be a time of Revelation

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Because if there is a real message in the crop designs which is not manmade it would challenge belief systems, so fight it, after all we are all a bit afraid of the unknown.

But this may be a time when we have to seek the truth and not hide behind old dogma.

I am very very bored......

You think that issue needs even more players in it?

Belief systems have been challenged since the dawn of time. Wars happen over that.

Make crop circles not war!

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thanks Searcher, that's a sensible explanation actually. ... If i see the center point of each circle falling within the perimeter of the overall circle.. which it seems to. So , yup.. the design is based on Two sets of circles. The ones forming the arcs .. and .. concentric circles falling at the transitions of the 'light' and 'dark' parts of the pattern. Hmmm .. maybe this one is "doable" by ordinary humanoids. lol

See it doesn't allways have to be aliens or such. Never underestimate the ingenuity of the human mind.

You do not have to just believe in landscape geometry if sites align or form patterns in the landscape that is either true or false which can be established on a scientific basis. It is then a matter of deciding if this is just a coincidence, pure chance, or evidence of a design. That comes down to two main factors 1 )how many of these sites form the alignment and 2) If it is a design would that design tell us anything. There are many aligned sites in the Holy Land and eastern Mediterranean area when you know the coordinates to establish the bearing lines. This is way beyond the possibility of coincidence.

Going to point 2) If this is evidence of a design what might it tell us?

It is very old. From the known age of the sites at least 3000 BCE so 5000 years old and possibly very much older.

It demonstrates abilities that are way outside our present understanding of people at that time

The monument markers were stone, where they remain, so meant to be durable

The sites appear to be dedicated to the gods and goddesses of the people at that time

The people in general probably did not know about the long distance alignments but knew the locations were sacred

Strong indications that probably a priesthood in Egypt did know about the geometry

Strong indications that Jesus and Mary of Magdala did know about the geometry

Strong indications that some of those who wrote the bible did know about the geometry

Strong indications that there were clues written into the bible

We were at some time meant to find these clues when the geometry could be revealed

This would be a time of Revelation

Actually I have no issues with landscape geometry as such, as used by science and the military. I don't believe in the spin you give to it, though, because there is no scientific proof or method to it. Connecting dots and calling it a shape or other, sorry that's not alignment. Also, "strong indications"? Really? How about some tangible proof? Not some religious nincompoopery, or assumptions...... Sorry but discussing this seems like a huge waste of time.

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I imagine most crop circles are hoax copy cats because they usually are full of symbols but the real ones like that, if one can know if they are genuine would be extremely facinating!

I saw a real crop circle once but it was not very interesting compared to the ones you see in the media.

One evening, I saw a lone dark storm cloud drop a dark spinning funnel from the sky which looked like a giant dust devil as it hit a neighbor's corn field. There was no rain. It was really cool because after it touched ground it went back up into the cloud instead of moving around and dispursing like little dust devils I saw on the ground with leaves and dirt spinning around.

The next day what was left in the field was the talk of the town, until I burst their bubble about aliens doing it because I saw a funnel cloud do it! It was a huge perfect circle and the inner part was like going in opposite spinning directions creating really pretty swirly patterns in the fallen corn.

It was funny after that because one neighbor not to be out done by the neighbor's real crop circle started mowing his own crop circles around his gardens each year...in honor of the real alien crop circle up the road!

Justin Beiber just one sign of Revelations?

Have you ever made a crop circle? I have. A couple friends and I went out one night and with some boards with rope tied to them and a few strings, we created a pretty detailed crop circle. More of a geometric sort of key shape.... But the point is, it only took thee 3 of us, with no crop circle experience, about 2 and a half hours to make a detailed circle that made the news and confounded some of the people that lived nearby where we made it.

No aliens. No end-times. No revelations. Just people, like always.

Edit: I looked at the pi circle. Nothing there a clever person couldn't have designed.

On further review, even a not so clever person could design that. You just have to know the first 10 digits of pi and be able to grasp the oh-so-difficult concept of "counting".

You just won the uncredible award and people like you... First crop circles were made from someone not from this earth and if you have a problem with that argue with geniue research of people who measured just about everything from genetic changes to radiation levels to why weren't the crops broken or ravaged like you would do with a board...

See

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Both videos shows early crop circles in shapes people haven't seen before in way people cannot copy... While your jokes are derailing people from what actualy happened... Edited by Nuke_em

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