redhen Posted January 4, 2013 #1 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Wasn't sure where to post this, philosophy seems to be a catch all. http://www.peta.org/...mals-lives.aspx PETA, is hailing a victory in the signing of the new National Defense Authorization Act for 2013. Undercover footage from PETA revealed the shocking limits the Dept. of Defense would go to simulate battlefield wounds by shooting, stabbing and sawing of the legs of animals with tree trimmers. The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine has also lobbied to end this cruel practice for some time, and they are also hailing this as a victory. http://pcrm.org/medi...killing-animals One more step for a compassionate society. Cheers! As for the philosophic tag, well, how's this for a syllogism; Maiming animals for combat surgery practice causes pain, suffering and death. This practice is unnecessary; there are legitimate alternatives. Therefore, by definition, it is animal cruelty. My unstated assumption is; all things being equal, a world with less pain and suffering is better than a world with more pain and suffering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashotep Posted January 5, 2013 #2 Share Posted January 5, 2013 PETA's limits can be rather shocking too at times. Don't need to be abusing animals for this purpose. It is cruel and inhuman. This isn't the 1930's, we already know how to help the wounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhen Posted January 5, 2013 Author #3 Share Posted January 5, 2013 PETA's limits can be rather shocking too at times. I don't agree with everything PETA does, but then there's no organization or ideology that I am in total agreement with. p.s. there is a link to the undercover video, but I don't feel it's necessary to post it. I'm sure people can imagine what it looks like when you take a tree trimmer to a goats leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted January 5, 2013 #4 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Don't get me started on PETA. I hate any extremist group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhen Posted January 5, 2013 Author #5 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Don't get me started on PETA. I hate any extremist group. Death to Extremists ! lol Don't you think hate is an extreme term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babe Ruth Posted January 5, 2013 #6 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Good news! Now, if the DOD could end human cruelty practices we might really be getting somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougeaton Posted January 5, 2013 #7 Share Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) They do go to far. I have spoke to some who think that a dog has the same value as a human life.....why not a spider, how far down to you go. They say some good things, they make people think, but they go too far and hurt their cause. doug Good news! Now, if the DOD could end human cruelty practices we might really be getting somewhere. Humans aren't important to them. Edited January 5, 2013 by dougeaton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted January 6, 2013 #8 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Death to Extremists ! lol Don't you think hate is an extreme term? Would you offer even ONE extremist group I should not "hate" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhen Posted January 6, 2013 Author #9 Share Posted January 6, 2013 You made a categorical statement; "I hate any extremist group." You didn't say why so it's just a declaration, not a argument. I made an reductio ad absurdum joke, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted January 7, 2013 #10 Share Posted January 7, 2013 They do go to far. I have spoke to some who think that a dog has the same value as a human life.....why not a spider, how far down to you go. They say some good things, they make people think, but they go too far and hurt their cause. doug Humans aren't important to them. I didn't know spiders could speak? What good things do they say? ..................sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhen Posted January 7, 2013 Author #11 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Would you offer even ONE extremist group I should not "hate" ? I should have added that many advocacy groups were originally viewed as extremists; slavery abolitionists, the signatories to the U.S. Declaration of Independence, women suffragettes, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfrmboy Posted January 7, 2013 #12 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Good News ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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