What is the Mystery of the Number 7

[SpiritWriter]

7 = three on one side, one in the middle (perhaps wearing a crown), and three on the other side..

[SpiritWriter]

7 is a simple number, greater than 6 but less than 8.

Nothing special.

It might be simple but its still special...

[SpiritWriter]

Has anyone mentioned 7 is a prime number? I know I just posted like 5 times in a row... sorry about that, ill go to another forum now.... peace

Sevens

Hey, look what I found, a diagram based on the 7 sins:

Lol @ B+E

And... A+B lolol

Edited January 11, 2013 by SpiritWriter

[Everdred]

There is clearly a link between 'the gods and goddesses' and days of the week but the earliest civilisation, the Sumerians, did not believe that there were just the 7 planets but more as they depicted on seals, yet the sacred number of these ancient people was still the number 7. This has been attributed by some to the fact that in the Sumerian view of the solar system the Earth is the 7th planet when not counting starting with the sun but counting from the outside in towards the sun.

It is an interesting note that this is the way you would count the planets if coming into the solar system from the outside.

It sounds like you're buying into Sitchin et al. too much. The seals are pretty consistent in showing seven planets--nothing beyond Saturn as they didn't have telescopes.

But even if you allow for alien communication, Earth wouldn't be the 7th planet counting the other way. In the past couple decades astronomers have found a number of bodies beyond Pluto of reasonable size, including at least one slightly larger than Pluto. So any incoming aliens would either count from Neptune (as we do now that Pluto has been "officially" downgraded from planet status), making Earth the 6th planet, or from one of the bodies beyond Pluto, making Earth perhaps 10th or 11th (or even more).

[Abramelin]

The Seven Ages of Man

William Shakespeare

All the world's a stage,

And all the men and women merely players:

They have their exits and their entrances;

And one man in his time plays many parts,

His acts being seven ages. At first the infant,

Mewling and puking in the nurse's arms.

Then the whining school-boy, with his satchel

And shining morning face, creeping like snail

Unwillingly to school. And then the lover,

Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad

Made to his mistress' eyebrow. Then a soldier,

Full of strange oaths, and bearded like the pard,

Jealous in honor, sudden and quick in quarrel,

Seeking the bubble reputation

Even in the cannon's mouth. And then the justice,

In fair round belly with good capon lined,

With eyes severe and beard of formal cut,

Full of wise saws and modern instances;

And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts

Into the lean and slipper'd pantaloon,

With spectacles on nose and pouch on side,

His youthful hose, well saved, a world too wide

For his shrunk shank; and his big manly voice,

Turning again toward childish treble, pipes

And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all,

That ends this strange eventful history,

Is second childishness and mere oblivion,

Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans every thing.

Solomon Grundy,

Born on a Monday,

Christened on Tuesday,

Married on Wednesday,

Took ill on Thursday,

Grew worse on Friday,

Died on Saturday,

Buried on Sunday.

That was the end,

Of Solomon Grundy.

Seven Doubles: BGD KPRT

Up and Down

East and West

North and South

And the Holy Palace precisely in the center

and it supports them all.

Sefer Yetzirah

[laver]

Goodness! You know Jesus sufficiently well to confirm Mary Magdalen was his "companion" /and/ that he was "clearly aware" of junk science?

There are well-learned folk who aren't even certain he really existed, so I'd love to know how you got the opportunity to grokk with The Man, Jr. Time travel? Psychic union with his transtemporal soul? Or did you get a hold of some manner of secret document the rest of us aren't privy to?

..or maybe you were just playing a little fast and loose and blurred the difference between what you know and what you believe to be true?

--Jaylemurph

Ancient texts that have come to light in recent years refer to Mary as the 'companion' of Jesus and his confidant in matters that he did not discuss with the rest of the disciples. This is now well known although there were clearly attempts to cover up their close relationship from early times. Even the biblical texts make her the apostle to the apostles.

The 'secret document' you refer to seems to be ancient landscape geometry which ties into the biblical accounts

[kmt_sesh]

Ancient texts that have come to light in recent years refer to Mary as the 'companion' of Jesus and his confidant in matters that he did not discuss with the rest of the disciples. This is now well known although there were clearly attempts to cover up their close relationship from early times. Even the biblical texts make her the apostle to the apostles.

The 'secret document' you refer to seems to be ancient landscape geometry which ties into the biblical accounts

The ancient text to which you refer is the Gospel of Mary, and it's well understood. The best-preserved version is found in Berlin and the gospel belongs to the Gnostic tradition. It was found in Egypt a long time ago.

That the early Roman Catholic Church did not canonize this gospel is no secret. Very little of the Gnostic tradition ended up in the "official" version of the Christian Bible. This particular gospel dates to some time in the mid- to late-second century CE, so as with nearly all scriptures in the Christian tradition, it considerably post-dates the life of Jesus. In other words, it can no more be used as evidence for the historicity of Jesus as seen in the Bible as any of the other gospels can. It's part of an early religious tradition, but is not verifiable history.

[laver]

Hi all, nice forum

The seven is a perfect number, that's why is is the number of God, for help understand the number 7, pick up a dice, the 7 is repeat 3 times in the dice, this is the reason of the creation of the dice the way it is.

On the opposite side of number 1 you have number 6

on the opposite side of number 2 you have the number 5

on the opposite side of number 3 you have number 4

6+1=7

5+2= 7

4+3= 7

In the dice or cube, you have represented the corner stone rejected by man, 4 elements, the number of men (6) and the sacred number of God trinity (7).

The number 6 is related to men, because man was created at sixth day, (666) 3 times the creation of man. God rests from is creation at the 7 day.

Nice forum

Be well

Interesting stuff, did not know that. What is the origin of the dice, must be very old?

[laver]

7 = three on one side, one in the middle (perhaps wearing a crown), and three on the other side..

Like the menorah sign you mean?

[laver]

It might be simple but its still special...

But why is it so special from the earliest of times? and why was it 'the' number of the Book of Revelations?

[Diablo Blanco]

In the ancient Roman calendar, December was the tenth month of the year as decem in latin means ten. The Roman

calendar began on what we now call March 25th. Making march the 1st month, april the 2nd month, may the 3rd

month, june the 4th month, july the 5th month, august the 6th month,

SEPTEMber the 7th month (as septem in latin is seven) gregorian calendar it is the 9th month), OCTOber the 8th month (as octo in latin means eight) gregorian calendar it is the 10th month), NOVEMber the 9th month (as novem in latin means nine)gregorian

calendar it is the 11th month), and finally DECEMber the 10th month (as decem in latin means ten) gregorian calendar it is the 12th month).

So the sun god s' energy begins to "create" vegetation for 6 months at the spring equinox (march ) . On the 7th

month, the fall equinox (september) libra the scales or balance), the sun god dips below the equator and he appears to be resting as his energy becomes weak and vegetation starts to wither and die. ( the sun god jesus cursing the fig tree causing it to wither and

die comes to mind).

Here we have the year divided, 6 months of beneficient suns energy (good), and 6 months of weak sun energy

marked by the constellation Libra (the scales), the 7th month of the year, SEPTEMber, whereas vegetation or crops if you will, die.

(evil). (Halloween in symbolic of this death and is 40 days after the autumnal equinox). (40 days after the spring

equinox is May Day or if we go 40 days passed march 25th we have cinco de mayo).

Edit: punctuation

Edited January 12, 2013 by Hazrus

[laver]

The ancient text to which you refer is the Gospel of Mary, and it's well understood. The best-preserved version is found in Berlin and the gospel belongs to the Gnostic tradition. It was found in Egypt a long time ago.

That the early Roman Catholic Church did not canonize this gospel is no secret. Very little of the Gnostic tradition ended up in the "official" version of the Christian Bible. This particular gospel dates to some time in the mid- to late-second century CE, so as with nearly all scriptures in the Christian tradition, it considerably post-dates the life of Jesus. In other words, it can no more be used as evidence for the historicity of Jesus as seen in the Bible as any of the other gospels can. It's part of an early religious tradition, but is not verifiable history.

From memory there are other Gnostic texts which may shed light on the role of Mary of Magdala in the story of Jesus. Thomas/Phillip?

These texts seem to have about as much 'historical' validity as the bible accounts.

Mary, from biblical references, has close links to the number 7 which must have been included for a reason?

[laver]

In the ancient Roman calendar, December was the tenth month of the year as decem in latin means ten. The Roman

calendar began on what we now call March 25th. Making march the 1st month, april the 2nd month, may the 3rd

month, june the 4th month, july the 5th month, august the 6th month,

SEPTEMber the 7th month (as septem in latin is seven) gregorian calendar it is the 9th month), OCTOber the 8th month (as octo in latin means eight) gregorian calendar it is the 10th month), NOVEMber the 9th month (as novem in latin means nine)gregorian

calendar it is the 11th month), and finally DECEMber the 10th month (as decem in latin means ten) gregorian calendar it is the 12th month).

So the sun god s' energy begins to "create" vegetation for 6 months at the spring equinox (march ) . On the 7th

month, the fall equinox (september) libra the scales or balance), the sun god dips below the equator and he appears to be resting as his energy becomes weak and vegetation starts to wither and die. ( the sun god jesus cursing the fig tree causing it to wither and

die comes to mind).

Here we have the year divided, 6 months of beneficient suns energy (good), and 6 months of weak sun energy

marked by the constellation Libra (the scales), the 7th month of the year, SEPTEMber, whereas vegetation or crops if you will, die.

(evil). (Halloween in symbolic of this death and is 40 days after the autumnal equinox). (40 days after the spring

equinox is May Day or if we go 40 days passed march 25th we have cinco de mayo).

Edit: punctuation

The importance of the solar year is clear from very early times not only the solstice but equinox times seem to have been considered very

significant. The equinox half way point, time of balance and harmony, yin and yang?

[ZaraKitty]

The mystery is why people try to make such things as numbers have importance. It's a number.

[laver]

The mystery is why people try to make such things as numbers have importance. It's a number.

You might be right. But certain numbers have had a huge influence on humankind and 7 is one of them some would say the most important one.

We all live to a 7 day week time cycle, why? This cycle of time goes back to thousands of years BCE and as a cycle indicates a beginning and

an end, an Alpha and an Omega, a start and finish. 7 may be the number of completion of a cycle. 7 is the number of the last book of the bible

Revelations and at the very beginning of the bible we have creation described as a 7 day process with the 7th day being Holy a time of rest as the works

were completed.

So you might be wrong maybe the number 7 is much more than just a number.

[Abramelin]

Bit more about 7: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/142857_(number)

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Edited January 12, 2013 by Abramelin

[laver]

Bit more about 7: http://en.wikipedia....142857_(number)

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Will have a look, all thoughts are gratefully recieved even if they challenge accepted ideas, actually particularly if they do!

[Slate]

Hi all, nice forum

The seven is a perfect number, that's why is is the number of God, for help understand the number 7, pick up a dice, the 7 is repeat 3 times in the dice, this is the reason of the creation of the dice the way it is.

On the opposite side of number 1 you have number 6

on the opposite side of number 2 you have the number 5

on the opposite side of number 3 you have number 4

6+1=7

5+2= 7

4+3= 7

In the dice or cube, you have represented the corner stone rejected by man, 4 elements, the number of men (6) and the sacred number of God trinity (7).

The number 6 is related to men, because man was created at sixth day, (666) 3 times the creation of man. God rests from is creation at the 7 day.

Nice forum

Be well

As an adept craps player I can relate to the mathematical odds of throwing dice, seven being the most common combination, and probably where it gets it's reputation as a lucky number, but beyond that I don't see much relation to god other than coincidence that similar numbers are used in old bible legends. In fact, a seven-out at the end of a roll is often called the "devil".

[laver]

As an adept craps player I can relate to the mathematical odds of throwing dice, seven being the most common combination, and probably where it gets it's reputation as a lucky number, but beyond that I don't see much relation to god other than coincidence that similar numbers are used in old bible legends. In fact, a seven-out at the end of a roll is often called the "devil".

Interesting. Knowing nothing about Craps the number 7 seems very important particularly at the beginning and end of a cycle in this case a game. The number 7 does feature strongly in time cycles throughout history and prehistory so interesting things to consider in seeing if there is a Mystery in the number 7

[laver]

It may be worth noting that the links between Mary of Magdala and the number 7 are quite strong.

Two books of the bible Luke 8 and Mark 16 associate her with this number and the ancient landscape geometry of the Holy Land and eastern Mediterranean links her town on the shores of the Sea of Galilee - Magdala - to the cities of Revelation detailed at the start of Revelations. This is achieved by a Great Circle bearing line. There are 7 cities of Revelation and the number 7 is 'the' number of the book with over 50 entries.

7 is a number of 'completeness' which with Revelations being the last book of the bible and a prophecy of things to happen 'hereafter' must be a clue to the reason it gets so great a mention in this text.

[AMARUKHAN111666888]

In the Americas, the number 13 was sacred, 6 days and 6 night of creation and the 7th day the manifestation.

as the mayan calendar,

also the people in south america use the concept of 13 as seen in the whipala. 6 stages and the 7th as the manifestation,

[Swede]

In the Americas, the number 13 was sacred, 6 days and 6 night of creation and the 7th day the manifestation.

as the mayan calendar,

also the people in south america use the concept of 13 as seen in the whipala. 6 stages and the 7th as the manifestation,

Am unsure of the source of the glitzy pyramid graphic, but you may wish to confirm the dates incorporated. To begin at the lowest tier.

Age of the universe - Currently understood to be 13.77 billion yrs BP +/- .4%.

http://map.gsfc.nasa...se/uni_age.html

Earliest suspected multicellular life - ~ 2.1 billion yrs BP.

Earliest mammal - Currently understood to be ~ 210 million yrs BP.

http://paleobiology....oterozoic3.html

http://www.enchanted...Evolution.shtml

Earliest monkey - Currently understood to be ~ 34 million yrs BP.

http://anthro.paloma...tes/early_2.htm

Will not bother to proceed further.

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[harrygrant]

I know what is the mystery behind number 1.. It represents monday and its time to go to work again

Haha I agree to that, I have this kind of face ( ) every monday...

Well as for number 7, isn't it a sign of death? I mean the death's soul takers ceptar same as 7.

[laver]

Haha I agree to that, I have this kind of face ( ) every monday...

Well as for number 7, isn't it a sign of death? I mean the death's soul takers ceptar same as 7.

Maybe, death is the end of a time cycle of life ?