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Obama signs 23 Executive Orders on GunControl

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Obama signs 23 Executive Orders on Gun Control

Jan. 16, 2013 http://us.cnn.com/20....html?hpt=hp_c1

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Washington (CNN) -- President Barack Obama on Wednesday proposed background checks on all gun sales and bans on military style assault weapons and high-capacity magazines as part of a package of steps to reduce gun violence in the wake of the Newtown school massacre last month.

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Just curious...

Weren't the 'birthers' roundly criticized for wanting to do 'background checks' on Barack Obama?

Seems hypocritical of him to want back ground info on YOU but for him to become POTUS he didn't have to provide you with his own information(except an autobiography novel, of course) And now he just sign an executive order with the use of force to provide back ground checks on YOU!

I know, I know... the same ole people will say, "If you have nothing to hide or fear you'll pass the tests... er, I mean back ground checks......

Weird how this President continues to get a free pass at every turn.

Good job Barry.

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Weren't the 'birthers' roundly criticized for wanting to do 'background checks' on Barack Obama?

Seems hypocritical of him to want back ground info on YOU but for him to become POTUS he didn't have to provide you with his own information(except an autobiography novel, of course) And now he just sign an executive order with the use of force to provide back ground checks on YOU!

There's a difference between racism and knowing if you're dangerous or not. And why would you want to buy an assault weapon anyway?

I'm giving Obama a BBBIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGG thumbs up! :tsu::clap::tu:

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FWIW I think the whole "getting rid of loopholes in background checks" is a good move, what's the point of having a law (a relatively sensible one, making sure convicted criminals don't get guns and so forth) if there's such an easily exploitable hole in it?

Banning assault weapons? Why do you need them? Surely for hunting you need something with a bit more "stopping power" and less damage to the carcass (after all, who wants to be picking bullets out of their venison?) and for home defence you want stopping power as well - a shotgun for example will both stop a home invader and give them a chance to survive and face trial.

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There's a difference between racism and knowing if you're dangerous or not.

Collectivism. Call a person a racist and immediately the issue is derailed.

Nice try dumb dumb.

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Banning assault weapons? Why do you need them? Surely for hunting you need something with a bit more "stopping power" and less damage to the carcass (after all, who wants to be picking bullets out of their venison?) and for home defence you want stopping power as well - a shotgun for example will both stop a home invader and give them a chance to survive and face trial.

GOV tyranny.

Piers Morgan, who's been leading the corporate media on this issue on CNN has asked the same question over and over. His question has been met with the same conclusion over and over... GOV tyranny. Last night on his TV program he had individuals from both sides debate the issue(it appeared fixed to me) Piers suggested, on his own accord that GOV tyranny was the reason for owning assault weapons to which one of the individuals on the panel said while laughing, "...but... but... the GOV has nuclear weapons..... those assault weapons would be useless against nuclear weapons...." HUH?!?!?!?

If in the future the GOV became tyrannical I highly doubt the GOV would be bombing it's own cities with nuclear weapons... the fallout would affect everybody, not just those the weapons were meant to take out. Piers, nor any of the panel raised this prospect. They simply continued on talking about the need to take away the ability for the citizenry to defend itself against GOV tyranny.

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There's an episode of Drawn Together,that is this exact topic,including a false flag .

The deer are the government equivalents .Bambi kills her own mom,so guns are given up by everyone ,so the deer can rise up .

It's a joke of course,and its from years ago .The irony is beyond amusing to me ....

http://www.tv.com/shows/drawn-together/n-r-a-y-ray-897306/

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Obama signs 23 Executive Orders on Gun Control

Jan. 16, 2013 http://us.cnn.com/20....html?hpt=hp_c1

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Washington (CNN) -- President Barack Obama on Wednesday proposed background checks on all gun sales and bans on military style assault weapons and high-capacity magazines as part of a package of steps to reduce gun violence in the wake of the Newtown school massacre last month.

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*****

Just curious...

Weren't the 'birthers' roundly criticized for wanting to do 'background checks' on Barack Obama?

Seems hypocritical of him to want back ground info on YOU but for him to become POTUS he didn't have to provide you with his own information(except an autobiography novel, of course) And now he just sign an executive order with the use of force to provide back ground checks on YOU!

I know, I know... the same ole people will say, "If you have nothing to hide or fear you'll pass the tests... er, I mean back ground checks......

Weird how this President continues to get a free pass at every turn.

Good job Barry.

The background checks are not a problem for citizens without a criminal record. The issue is the database being compiled that creates a map like the one generated in NJ (I think) showing who owns and where. If the government knows this then after the next crazy person or three shoots up some public venue then the government knows where to begin the eventual confiscation. Yeah, sure, that'd never happen..... UNTIL IT DOES....

This E.O. creates a new classification of criminals. I will be one at some point. If I decide to sell my shotgun to a friend or some person I know and refuse to go to the police for a background check on them first (at my expense no doubt) then voila' ! I'm a felon. These new laws will not impede real criminals. The guns I've sold in past to strangers, I get a name and a copy of a driver license. If the police ever come to me telling me that weapon was used in a crime then I have a last known location of the gun. To expect individuals to bear the expense and liability for a weapon that passes through their hands once, briefly, for as long as that weapon is in circulation is ridiculous. My problem is not with certification in general. Keeping firearms from criminals is a laudable objective in society. But if my choice is to take a chance on another citizen or the government - I'll try my luck with the citizen. I do, after all, have some ability of discerning whether the potential buyer is a thug or a gang banger.

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I'm still seeing no action on those dangerous hammers and baseball bats. WHY U IGNORE ME GUMENT?

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"The President believes that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual to bear arms, and he respects our nation's rich hunting and sport shooting traditions and the millions of responsible Americans who participate in them every year."

Too bad it's not about hunting animals.

We can refer to the Gesetz über Schußwaffen und Munition (Law on Firearms and Ammunition) of 1928..

The Weimar republic (Germany) made it forbidden to own a rifle beyond the usual extent for shooting and hunting. The law went into effect on October 1st, 1928. If you ignored this law you were thrown into prison for three years and had to pay a fine. If you inherited a gun and didn't report it, you were given the same punishment (echoing gun registration). In order to get a Waffen oder Munitionserwerbscheins, or license to obtain a weapon or ammunition, you had to go through the police. Authorities of the Reich and people in various positions, of course, were exempt.

“Licenses to obtain or to carry firearms shall only be issued to persons whose reliability is not in doubt, and only after proving a need for them.”

This, of course, sounds nothing like the United States.

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"The President believes that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual to bear arms, and he respects our nation's rich hunting and sport shooting traditions and the millions of responsible Americans who participate in them every year."

Too bad it's not about hunting animals.

In 1928 the Weimar republic (Germany) made it forbidden to own a rifle beyond the usual extent for shooting and hunting. The law went into effect on October 1st, 1928. If you ignored this law you were thrown into prison for three years and had to pay a fine. If you inherited a gun and didn't report it, you were given the same punishment (echoing gun registration). In order to get a Waffen oder Munitionserwerbscheins, or license to obtain a weapon or ammunition, you had to go through the police. Authorities of the Reich and people in various positions, of course, were exempt.

Of course, “Licenses to obtain or to carry firearms shall only be issued to persons whose reliability is not in doubt, and only after proving a need for them.”

This, of course, sounds nothing like the United States.

*Sarcasm*

On a similar note:

Hardy, p. 1237. "Early Americans wrote of the right in light of three considerations: (1) as auxiliary to a natural right of self-defense; (2) as enabling an armed people to deter undemocratic government; and (3) as enabling the people to organize a militia system."

Malcolm, "That Every Man Be Armed," pp. 452, 466. "The Second Amendment reflects traditional English attitudes toward these three distinct, but intertwined, issues: the right of the individual to protect his life, the challenge to government of an armed citizenry, and the preference for a militia over a standing army. The framers' attempt to address all three in a single declarative sentence has contributed mightily to the subsequent confusion over the proper interpretation of the Second Amendment."

Merkel and Uviller, pp. 62, 179 ff, 183, 188 ff, 306. "[T]he right to bear arms was articulated as a civic right inextricably linked to the civic obligation to bear arms for the public defense."

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Collectivism. Call a person a racist and immediately the issue is derailed.

Nice try dumb dumb.

I never called you racist. Birthers usually are racist. Can't it be seen that it is racism if the birth certificate of the first black president is being questioned and scrutinized for no apparent reason?

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The background checks are not a problem for citizens without a criminal record.

While I like your post I would like to address this first sentence.

The back ground checks are a problem for individuals who have any such history of being prescribed anti-depressants regardless of zero criminal behavior.

Do not forget that the majority of shooters never had a criminal record.... this includes the latest Connecticut shooter.

If you've been prescribed anti-depressants by your doctor this information will be released, by the use of force, to the DOJ and YOU will not be allowed to own a fire arm. YOU will be stripped of your rights because you are a potential risk.

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I'm still seeing no action on those dangerous hammers and baseball bats. WHY U IGNORE ME GUMENT?

I want PSA's from baseball players saying things like 'whenever I took a baseball bat into my own hands, I didn't know what a dangerous game I was playing.' -sarcasm-

See? You'd trust a baseball player with a bat, but maybe not Lenny the repeat batterer. (Bat pun, didn't notice that. Uh -ba-dum-tsh-)

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I never called you racist. Birthers usually are racist. Can't it be seen that it is racism if the birth certificate of the first black president is being questioned and scrutinized for no apparent reason?

Nope.... it's a non-issue throwing in the race card. Obama's mother is as white as mine. And my father is just about as dark as his... It's a non-issue meant to derail the whole point of providing accurate information to qualify as POTUS. Color is in every single one of us. We are all one people.

Barry has not provided the public with his full back ground check yet here he is signing executive orders to disarm the public of the means to protect the nation against any future GOV tyranny.

You do realize Obama has an alias name, Barry Soetaro, which he used while living in Indonesia as a youth?

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I want PSA's from baseball players saying things like 'whenever I took a baseball bat into my own hands, I didn't know what a dangerous game I was playing.' -sarcasm-

See? You'd trust a baseball player with a bat, but maybe not Lenny the repeat batterer.

I've come to the conclusion that you are not female. But rather a male, probably aged around 40-ish posing as a young female.

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Acidhead,

Barack Obama is the first president to have major questioning of his birth certificate. You don't think this is because of his race? People believe that he grew up in Kenya, an African country, and he's African American. How is this not racial? There is no evidence that he was born in any country besides the US (unless if you can actually give me some).

You do realize Obama has an alias name, Barry Sortaro, which he used while living in Indonesia as a youth?

http://www.bnd.com/2...y-soetoro.html: "I know my paper's philosophy is to let people have their say (within legal limits) and the truth will win out (hopefully). But I sometimes think we should consider offering an occasional editor's note when writers take a particularly flagrant departure from reality."

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GOV gun grabbers historically knew the importance of using children as props:

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Acidhead,

Barack Obama is the first president to have major questioning of his birth certificate. You don't think this is because of his race? People believe that he grew up in Kenya, an African country, and he's African American. How is this not racial? There is no evidence that he was born in any country besides the US (unless if you can actually give me some).

http://www.bnd.com/2...y-soetoro.html: "I know my paper's philosophy is to let people have their say (within legal limits) and the truth will win out (hopefully). But I sometimes think we should consider offering an occasional editor's note when writers take a particularly flagrant departure from reality."

DO NOT DERAIL THIS THREAD

If you want to discuss your racial issue on the birth certificate please use an appropriate thread.

I have nothing more to discuss with you here on that issue.

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Posted on Lew Rockwell's web page:

Warning to All Doctors and Counselors http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/

President Obama's announcement today essentially means that doctors, psychiatrists, and counselors all are on notice that they had better ask every client or patient if he or she owns guns. If they answer "yes," then look for a visit from the local police.

I have no doubt that we will see an escalation of state gun violence out of all this. Bureaucrats are risk-averse, which means that the new default position will be the confiscation of guns from anyone who might be taking any medication for depression, sleeplessness, or something like Ritalin. This is not so much because all of them will be threats to kill others, but rather it presents a new opportunity to government agents to further control, harass, bully, and even kill others.

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Never forget when the gun violence escalates in the USA that it was the GOV's intervention which initiated the incidents through the use of force.

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Acidhead,

Barack Obama is the first president to have major questioning of his birth certificate. You don't think this is because of his race? People believe that he grew up in Kenya, an African country, and he's African American. How is this not racial? There is no evidence that he was born in any country besides the US (unless if you can actually give me some).

Actually that's not true, our 21st President, Chester Alan Arthur was being accused of being Canadian.

The original "birther" controversy

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I find it ironic... So very ironic.

That Obama is using executive orders and bypassing Congress and our Constitution.

The enabling act, which was passed on March 23rd 1933 provided (Article I: Federal laws may be enacted by the government [the cabinet] outside of the procedure provided in the Constitution . . . .) (Article II: The laws decreed by the government may deviate from the Constitution . . .) (Article III: The laws decreed by the government are to be drafted by the Chancellor and announced in the Reichsgesetzblatt.)

Hitler then used the powers from this act to mandate a prohibition of military rifles in the hands of the public.

This then was followed by him disarming "enemies of the state"; communists, gays, Jews. Remember that "communist" was a euphemism for those who weren't National Socialists. The German public were then offered to join the SS. Those who joined the Nazi Party or were in the SS or military were permitted in keeping their arms, but of course they themselves were instrumental in disarming and killing millions later targeted by Nazi Germany's reformed gun laws in 1938; those darn "communists" and Jews. The same gun law that then made it easier for Nazi civilians to get and keep handguns with a hunter's license.

Those who didn't join these state-run organizations and kept weapons were then killed.

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Stupid politicians. Add up all the infringements to your rights dont look at them singularly or your just another sheeple. :passifier:

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GOV gun grabbers historically knew the importance of using children as props:

you know there is a big difference between USA and those. imo

ppl in Germany, china, USSR. blindly believed in their leaders, out of fear, or were raised with it, brainwashed,....w\e (not all but vast majority) into seeing them as demigods, saviors. they did bring improvements to countries at first, Hitler especially, so ppl felt real results, great results. optimism was very high,

noting like that here now, economy going down, stupid laws make life harder, prices rise, more jobs lost, and bad vision of future for most.

and also we still have 300mil or so guns, only that we know of, and gvmnt knows it.

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Never forget when the gun violence escalates in the USA that it was the GOV's intervention which initiated the incidents through the use of force.

it already happened, before, Waco, ruby ridge, atf was trying to remove guns. from private property

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