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The belief in God doesn't necessarily equate the love or worship of God. It can be sheer fear. It can be contempt. It can be pure hatred. Or...it can be indifference.

You should feel lucky and grateful if you have the luxury to praise God in your life. Yes, I believe it's a luxury.

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I do not fear god, have any hatred towards it, or show any contempt, because I do not believe in it.

Its some of the people who do which worries me.

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Free - I'm Catholic and some believers scare me.

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The belief in God doesn't necessarily equate the love or worship of God. It can be sheer fear. It can be contempt. It can be pure hatred. Or...it can be indifference.

You should feel lucky and grateful if you have the luxury to praise God in your life. Yes, I believe it's a luxury.

C'mon Ron!

You already left an unnecessarily dirty mark on porn, why ruin something else?

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Free - I'm Catholic and some believers scare me.

Is that just Catholic believers or believers in general? :innocent:

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The belief in God doesn't necessarily equate the love or worship of God. It can be sheer fear. It can be contempt. It can be pure hatred. Or...it can be indifference.

You should feel lucky and grateful if you have the luxury to praise God in your life. Yes, I believe it's a luxury.

James 2:19: "You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder."

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James 2:19: "You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder."

Hatred as usual for his kind.

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The belief in God doesn't necessarily equate the love or worship of God. It can be sheer fear. It can be contempt. It can be pure hatred. Or...it can be indifference.

You should feel lucky and grateful if you have the luxury to praise God in your life. Yes, I believe it's a luxury.

Absolutely grasping that. Fear is a form of worshiping something, because your fear gives it the greater over you, which leaves me to wonder why so many preach/teach the fear of satan when they should already know it says fear god first and only, sort of like taking the chaos out of having so many fears and narrow it down to one then move to the next step of overcoming that one fear, thus eliminate (terror) fear...

The tower of Babel in Genesis 11, the people were of one language and one speech, the words used for language and speech literally mean (language -the lip, brink, bank or edge of a cup, sea or river...speech means: a matter, a thing, utterance, an idea or concept)

In the KJV the phrase "go to" let us build a city and tower, etc...the phrase "go to" means to ascribe, so we now have all the people where agreeing to one idea and setting boundaries for ascribing to this idea (one religion)...

The city that was to become the outer boundaries for the tower to be built in...the word city means : TERROR

http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H5892&t=KJV

The lord confounded their language (boundaries) and they left off building the city (boundaries of terror) doesn't mention that they gave up their idea of a tower, building up to the heavens to be closer to god, just says the terror was taken out of that building process...

They were first afraid to be scattered across the face of the earth and the lord rid them of that fear so they could be scattered over the earth without being afraid of it, which is basically removing the fear and terror of building your own tower without ascribing to everyone Else's set standards and boundaries, one on one with your creator, all of our speech holds the same desire, thus many faiths, decrees, religions, etc..that are geared toward the desire to know a creator.

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To actually love god as opposed to staring at his ankles all day so you don't burn? That sure is a rare thing because whether they like to admit it or not, most believers only 'love' their gods so they can escape punishment. I'm sure there are a few sincere believers who are glad for the fortunes of their lives, their children or their great ass (or ox, or camel) (Not my joke) but most people have it drilled into them that you're royally ****ed if you don't believe...and no one wants to burn forever or be separated from those they love.

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Free - I'm Catholic and some believers scare me.

I too am more concerned with the followers ..Many of them are indeed scary folk..I have read banners with a slogan that reads - It's not god I fear, it's his followers !!!

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It is true that some of us have joy in our relationship with God.

10 Create in me a clean heart, O God, And renew a steadfast spirit within me. 11 Do not cast me away from Your presence, And do not take Your Holy Spirit from me. 12 Restore to me the joy of Your salvation, And uphold me by Your generous Spirit. 13 Then I will teach transgressors Your ways, And sinners shall be converted to You. 14 Deliver me from the guilt of bloodshed, O God, The God of my salvation, And my tongue shall sing aloud of Your righteousness. 15 O Lord, open my lips, And my mouth shall show forth Your praise. Psalm 51

It is also true that there are "believers" out there who choose to spew venom instead of love as commanded. I don't fear them, but they are beyond annoying to me.

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Nobody wants to be compared to demons, unless you are a metal head or something. And I am definitely not a metal head.

And the reason why I chose this persona is the defiance to the atmosphere of UM forums.

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The belief in God doesn't necessarily equate the love or worship of God. It can be sheer fear. It can be contempt. It can be pure hatred. Or...it can be indifference.

You should feel lucky and grateful if you have the luxury to praise God in your life. Yes, I believe it's a luxury.

Excellent point. If a god of some sort appeared in front of me and I was sufficiently convinced, does it follow that I must be thankful and worship it? I have free will, so I say not.

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God is overrated. The only reason we speak of God this day is a lack of knowledge. Look at the old Roman empire: They had gods for multiple thing, rain for example. Now science has told us how rain is formed and there are no 'Gods' involved. What humanity now cals God, in wichever religion, will fade away as science progresses. The only thing I would take as proof there is something supernatural (I wont call it God because the word 'God' has lost i true meaning in our civilization) is the fact that I'm alive and have what appears to be a free will and a consciousness.

This is only my theory though :)

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