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Are Extraterrestrials Really Demons?

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Hrmmzzz, hosts, I'd like to believe in Ghosts, if I could talk to my dear old Dad again, I would be over the moon. So many times I could have used his advice! Why can a Ghost not be captured? Don't some places have manifestations with claimed regular occurrences? Not all that far from where I sit be the famous Boggo Road Jail, which reportedly is rife with the Ghosts of Prisoners, 10 spirits are said to reside at the Monte Cristo Homestead in NSW just for 2 examples of the top of my head.

One question that always puzzled me is why do Ghosts have clothes? Surely clothes do not have spirits? It seems a pretty basic answer, but try asking an "expert" and watch their eyes glaze over as they come up with something on the spot. The Afterlife seems to have a history in religion alone, going back to ancient beliefs, and the many books of the dead from ancient Egypt. From what I can tell, it's an entirely man made concept, and I think all it does is help us deal with the very fact we are all going to die. Learning is not without sacrifice, losing such comforts from innocence along the way are something of an unfortunate consequence, and that is not meant in any derogatory fashion in case it sounds like that, it is as it reads, just a consequence of asking the big questions. As I mentioned, I just cannot get into Ghost stories any more, to me Ghosts are about as scary as Futurama's evil santa. I have not seen one, and I am firm in my convictions that I simply never will, so no point in wasting time being concerned about it. That's just me and my journey mind you, I don't expect others to understand or even want to, but this is where my path has lead.

Tricky question! What would I consider a Supernatural event? That is a tough one for one how feels the word supernatural should mean "something to investigate" Well, mcrom has put up some interesting links on ESP, I would consider a "bluetooth brain" as chemical if it were possible and perhaps not so much supernatural, although hugely impressive all the same, but the remote viewing links he has offered, if proven in some way shape or form. I would consider supernatural I guess.

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Mmmm I see yeah I also think that the whole afterlife thing is probably a croc I mean in my opinion when you die thats it, nothing of you in any form is coming back. My girlfreind believes ghosts are real whole heartedly, and I was raised not to mess with anything that would be demonic in any form or have anything to do with the paranormal....So my gaurdians believe that stuff is very real. I guess I do also, coming from that, not so much ghosts but the demonic side of the spectrum. Hope that makes sense

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Mmmm I see yeah I also think that the whole afterlife thing is probably a croc I mean in my opinion when you die thats it, nothing of you in any form is coming back. My girlfreind believes ghosts are real whole heartedly, and I was raised not to mess with anything that would be demonic in any form or have anything to do with the paranormal....So my gaurdians believe that stuff is very real. I guess I do also, coming from that, not so much ghosts but the demonic side of the spectrum. Hope that makes sense

It does. Catholics believe that when you die your spirit takes a long nap in your body until judgment day(hence; Rest In Peace), and as the name suggest we are all judged and sent one way or the other on that day..

That's why Catholics believe that you can't communicate with Human souls threw a medium or a Witchbourd because your great great grand Dad is suposed to be sleeping, so what ever is at the other end claiming to be him must be a nonhuman spirit, and only an Evil spirit would lie and pretend to be your dead kin, so the Spirit must be demonic...

That's what they believe anyway..

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Plasma, earth-lights, Black Ops, Astronomical events, atmospherical events, volcanic activity, electrical charges, parallax error and misidentification are certainly an explanation for some if not all sightings. UFO's do exist, but are in no way shape or form ET, or proof of ET. That is a connection made by personal opinion and science fiction.

You know how some people claim RADAR tracks UFO's? Not one has ever tracked a UFO going into, or coming from space. Shouldn't a spaceship head into space at some point?

Anyways welcome to UM. I hope you enjoy your time here.

THANKS for welcoming me.

Many people claim that they saw human like entity but not human with UFO. That proof that UFOs are related with ET.

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I strongly belive they are demons, not ETs...

I just pray you won't be decieved my friends... :(

God Bless.

You're entitled to your opinion. You could be deceived as well as the rest of us. :yes:

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I do with you would stop this "fairness" mentality and get real. Your attitude strikes me as a rationalization for gullibility. Truth is not about balance and fairness, but about what the world really is. The realistic thing is to start from non-belief and skepticism on any claim that doesn't fit with objective reality. For the most part that is the end of it -- we only have so much time and resources to pursue outre claims further.If persuasive evidence is presented and one is curious or has some personal interest, then there is no harm and usually no danger in further query. It is not a case of taking the view that everything of this sort is necessarily false, but one of taking the view that generally one is not going to be able to get satisfactory answers so just leave it alone and don't be afraid of cemeteries at night.

That is complete nonsense. I never implied that people should believe all claims of the paranormal. My point was that it's wrong to reflexively dismiss all such claims as if you know better than all of the people who experienced them. For instance, I'll be more willing to believe pilots and police than some skeptic, on a forum, who didn't share their experience.

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Aliens and demons.... Maybe they are demons but then again maybe not, maybe they are creatures like ourselves but from another dimension, if that is the case that could explain some of their weirder powers such as walking through walls, immunity to firearms, and the ability to read and control other beings minds. That being said I still think that they are in some way spiritual rather then extraterrestrial. Some religious people report that these beings have a negative reaction to exorcism and other techniques. Some people who claim to be in contact with aliens are very anti christian. It's hard to say, it's something that people will have to do research on.

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Aliens and demons.... Maybe they are demons but then again maybe not, maybe they are creatures like ourselves but from another dimension, if that is the case that could explain some of their weirder powers such as walking through walls, immunity to firearms, and the ability to read and control other beings minds. That being said I still think that they are in some way spiritual rather then extraterrestrial. Some religious people report that these beings have a negative reaction to exorcism and other techniques. Some people who claim to be in contact with aliens are very anti christian. It's hard to say, it's something that people will have to do research on.

I agree

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Aliens and demons.... Maybe they are demons but then again maybe not, maybe they are creatures like ourselves but from another dimension, if that is the case that could explain some of their weirder powers such as walking through walls, immunity to firearms, and the ability to read and control other beings minds. That being said I still think that they are in some way spiritual rather then extraterrestrial. Some religious people report that these beings have a negative reaction to exorcism and other techniques. Some people who claim to be in contact with aliens are very anti christian. It's hard to say, it's something that people will have to do research on.

On the religious theme, this thread, like Lazarus, was raised from the dead. Your views mirrored some of mine. It could be that some EBEs were freaked out by religious fanatics and fundamentalists so they split back to their craft. It's a bit like my reaction to Jehovah's Witnesses. ;)

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As long as Demons come from Earth they are not Aliens. (That's if there are any Demons at all :alien: )

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It just might be that both aliens and demons are figments of overactive or disturbed imaginations. As far as I can make out there is no credible non-testimonial evidence for either. That doesn't "prove" they don't exist, but it does call for a little caution on our part about being so sure they do.

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As long as Demons come from Earth they are not Aliens. (That's if there are any Demons at all :alien: )

If demons came from mars, they would be aliens then?
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As long as Demons come from Earth they are not Aliens. (That's if there are any Demons at all :alien: )

One of those Earth demons lives in Cleveland. They just freed his captors, which just goes to show that we have some nerve to say that all ETs are evil.

It just might be that both aliens and demons are figments of overactive or disturbed imaginations. As far as I can make out there is no credible non-testimonial evidence for either. That doesn't "prove" they don't exist, but it does call for a little caution on our part about being so sure they do.

My guess is that you don't believe in them, then. It's just a hunch.

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DO Demons Dream?

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The demon theory on aliens does seem plausible. It would explain a lot of things about the ET/UFO cases that are not explainable. First and foremost is the fact that UFOs seem to bend the laws of physics and can materialize and de-materialize without a clue on where they go when we don't see them. Also, there's the fact that there's been no actual contact confirmed. Yes, there have been cases in which aliens seem to be communicating their intent to people of Earth. But, why would they be surveiling the Earth for all these centuries without making open contact? Jacques Vallee and J. Allen Hynek both theorized that aliens and UFOs were demonic which is why there are very few traces of the crafts and beings left behind. The appearing and disappearing would be readily explained by the interdimensional theory, which is what most people also claim demons are. Beings from another realm of our world that we cannot see. It's not that farfetched when you think about it.

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Jacques Vallee and J. Allen Hynek both theorized that aliens and UFOs were demonic which is why there are very few traces of the crafts and beings left behind. The appearing and disappearing would be readily explained by the interdimensional theory, which is what most people also claim demons are. Beings from another realm of our world that we cannot see. It's not that farfetched when you think about it.

Jacques Vallee has theorized that the entities are interdimensional, and that both aliens and demons are human ideas of these beings. Edited by Rlyeh

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I will never understand why people cant believe there are creatures from other worlds or dimensions but believe there is one God that created the universe..It just sounds so silly..Think about it..Put away all that is pounded into your head and realistically look at it..It doesnt work..The whole ET are demons is so ridiculous to me..The bible is just a form of control..If you are good you are rewarded..If you do bad you are punished..And not just for the short term..NOOO..You can go to hell if you are bad..One day all religion will be exposed as a fraud and then we will have no more problems..Most wars are fought over religion..How many people have been killed over religion..Put the bible down and think like an individual..not more following the sheep..there are no demons..but there is more than likely creatures from other planets or dimensions..The world has to get out of the dark ages..

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DO Demons Dream?

Demons don't sleep

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Labobio I believe in god, I don't believe in hell though and however bad you are in life when you die you don't go to a place and burn for all eternity. When you die your just dead, none of that hell crap.

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Who knows what's "out there?" The argument against aliens is to my mind pretty strong, given the distances between the stars and Fermi's Paradox. As regards demons and so on, coming from a different culture and seeing how different cultures have such divergent experiences makes me wonder if it is not expectations more than reality. At any rate better evidence is needed to convince what I would identify as the more realistic of the population.

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One that closes there mind to all possibilities never opens there Eyes to See right in front of themselfs sometimes ! Who knows whats out there ? We are here therefore We are the only thing out there ? I think not !

Its just we have not seen it all yet !

As for the Demons I like to Keep them in the e-Closet ! THen I can bring them out at a moments notice ! :tu:

Keep Looking !

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Somehow I don't see myself as having a closed mind. Maybe I'm wrong, but whenever someone says such a thing it makes me picture their mind as being perhaps a little too open.

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More Tom Foolery ? :clap: Dont ya just Love the Photoshop era ?

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Yeah that's gotta be fake

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I don't know if they are demons or not, or if some may be and others are just from somewhere other than earth. But I've seen something again. I've seen things before . But this latest was last Tuesday , the 25th of June.

It was night , I went into the backyard, looked up and instantly seen what appeared to be a moving star, like right away ,as soon as i looked up. I thought , maybe it was just an illusion due to the slight clouds , very slight clouds , not heavy clouds , there were barely any cloud coverage at all . I thought maybe it just looked like it was moving , but that it was the few very thin clouds moving that could have made it look that way??? ....so i watched it to see if it moves closer to a star on it's left which was higher up than it was though they both were far distant in altitude...or if it passes the star then I would it was moving...

It was obvious that it was moving closer to the star and so i ruled out the cloud effect and i thought maybe it's just a satellite but then it changed shape and color. It became a beautiful crystal blue color , very luminous, and it became more fuller, no longer did it look like a star , and the strangest thing , it shined two beams of light , the same color blue as it was , very pointed beams , upward and downward, it reminded me of like one of those stars that are on top of a Christmas tree,in the shape it was now of, with just one point at the top and one at the bottom...it was really beautiful

I watched it then turn shape back into looking like a star , it stopped where it stopped , to the left of the star it moved passed , it became smaller in appearance and just sat there the rest of the time , and looked just like a star.

I don't think it was a satellite, I've seen plenty of them and am familiar with their movements. They never change color and they are farther up then this thing was.They also move faster then what this was doing.

Then on Saturday I seen something again, totally different from what Tuesdays sighting was.I don't know if what i seen Saturday was military or what , but it was at the same place i usually see things, heading over the water...It was really weird and to describe it is difficult , unlike anything I know of. I don't know if what i seen was something that just appeared to look like two objects attaching to one another or if it was a black-hawk doing some strange maneuvers while being silent and hidden , just the lights changed from a long white object with two very ,very bright red circular lights , one in the front and one in the back of the long very bright white rectangular shape light object. This was low, not high up at all.

It changed from what i was seeing into two red lights , the white light was no longer there and both objects now were like two red orbs in the sky. The one in front was more to the right and stopped moving as the other was more to the left and seemed to travel closer to it , like attached to it...It was like nothing I've seen in the sky that we know of as to what we are told of concerning aircraft.

It did however remind me of what I've seen a few years ago that was low to the electric poles that one time.It too was red and white lights..And the shape of it was strange. I remember thinking that it was just a helicopter at first until i came up closer to it, then we all realized it was not a helicopter...Maybe what i seen Saturday was just military, i don't know...

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