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Is there an 'evil spot' in the brain ?

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A German neurologist believes he has pinpointed an area of the brain responsible for violent behavior.

After studying the brains of violent killers, rapists and robbers, German neurologist Gerhard Roth claims to have found a “dark patch” in the center of the brain.

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they said and where it lurks twice lol

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Sounds like that is where it lurks.

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Just for a second assume this is all true and checks out. It will mean we can test babies to see whether they will become criminals or not. Nothing we can do about it, of course, except know in advance. Now what?

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A German neurologist believes he has pinpointed an area of the brain responsible for violent behavior.

We all struggle with evil, I have all of my life, I am sure we all have the same "spot"....perhaps giving into evil impulses causes it to grow LOL. The more good we do, the better we become, we die to selfish self centered actions. The more we love, the deeper the love, the more we hate, it grows. Our choices open up doorways of growth or disintergration. There are exceptions most likely, but I doubt they are the majority, perhaps only a very small percentage.

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Behaviors can be learned. If we assume some personal activating event results in a consequence, then the underlying belief that bridges the activating event and consequence can be examined and often addressed through a personal awareness and relearning of the belief. Attributes, such as empathy, are learnable skills.

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Seems less an 'evil' spot (heck even in the article they say they're not sure they found 'the only one') and more a spot of 'apathy and violence'.

'Roth, a professor at the University of Bremen, told Germany news site Bild.de that he had shown short films to criminals and measured their brain activity. A small section at the front of their brains showed no reaction to violent scenes; it remained "dark" when shown dark scenes.

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But Constantine agreed with Galetta: Complex topics and behaviors are likely linked to other areas of the brain, rather than concentrated in one “evil area.”'

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It is known that sociopaths lack the ability to feel remorse and form a conscience. It has also been noted that this can run in families.

It all seems to fit. Crime is not an evil spirit but a lack of compassion.

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If this is confirmed, this will necessitate a huge philosophical discussion: back to a form of forced lobotomy, or not?

I hope they go easy on this and make absolutely sure they know what they are doing.

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If this is confirmed, this will necessitate a huge philosophical discussion: back to a form of forced lobotomy, or not?

I hope they go easy on this and make absolutely sure they know what they are doing.

Looks like it works on some:

'"Whenever there were brutal and squalid scenes, the subjects showed no emotions. In the areas of the brain where we create compassion and sorrow, nothing happened,” Roth said.

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Roth’s study, according to Bild.deexternal-link.png, was conducted for the German government on violent convicted offenders. He said the dark mass that he has identified appears in all CT scans of people with such records -- and taking it out ended their “evil” behavior.'

but it may take a lot of stabbings to get rid of all the 'evil' in the brain:

'But Constantine agreed with Galetta: Complex topics and behaviors are likely linked to other areas of the brain, rather than concentrated in one “evil area.”

“I would argue it’s probably not the only “evil” spot,” she said. “There are other areas in the brain, there are lots of … empathy areas or violent areas or just social reaction areas within the brain.”

“This may be one of the spots, but I’d be surprised if it’s the spot.”'

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In reply to the OP's topic, there are many other things rooted in evil other than just violence. Manipulation, deceit, and the lack of concern for one's fellow man are right up there as well.

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Shades of A Clockwork Orange...

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If there is, then the "God spot" also exists. Duality FTW!

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If there is, then the "God spot" also exists. Duality FTW!

I wonder what would happen if we jabbed that area with a big ol'needle?

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Since no one has gone here yet:

"What evil lurks in hte hearts of men? The Shadow knows! Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha"

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I wonder what would happen if we jabbed that area with a big ol'needle?

Thinking here that the evil spot is worse than the God spot, but that's just me.

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Shades of A Clockwork Orange...

Own the movie and the book.If any are malcolm mcdowell fans he plays another good whacko in Gangster No.1 almost a british scarface mixed with american psycho

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Since no one has gone here yet:

"What evil lurks in hte hearts of men? The Shadow knows! Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha"

Misspellings are what lurk in the hearts of men. :P

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Thinking here that the evil spot is worse than the God spot, but that's just me.

I doubt there's one 'spot' for 'evil' and 'god'. We're the sum of our parts, not itemized parts of 'good' and 'bad' jammed together into a fleshy body. Well, okay, we kinda are, but these 'good' and 'evil' things? Why, they're just chemical reactions in the body due to stimuli, if you want to give these actions any more worthy meaning like a morally good action or an evil one, be my guest, but I don't think we'll ever get rid of our 'evil' to lazily languish in the 'good'.

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When thinking of good vs bad i think bruce lee said it best "The perfect way is only difficult for those who pick and choose.Do not like do not dislike;all will then be clear.Make a hairbreadth difference and heaven and earth are set apart;if you want the truth to stand clear before you,never be for or against.The struggle between "for" and "against" is the mind's worst disease"

This is how i see it anyways.

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Seems less an 'evil' spot (heck even in the article they say they're not sure they found 'the only one') and more a spot of 'apathy and violence'.

'Roth, a professor at the University of Bremen, told Germany news site Bild.de that he had shown short films to criminals and measured their brain activity. A small section at the front of their brains showed no reaction to violent scenes; it remained "dark" when shown dark scenes.

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But Constantine agreed with Galetta: Complex topics and behaviors are likely linked to other areas of the brain, rather than concentrated in one “evil area.”'

I think people can become desensitized to screen violence. Measuring braing activity while watching violence on screen is probably not that great of an indicator since a lot of people now days actively participate in very realistic violence in video games and violent movies are grosser than ever... under the guise of horror (that's not horror, that's just gore).

Anyway, need a better test.

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I think people can become desensitized to screen violence. Measuring braing activity while watching violence on screen is probably not that great of an indicator since a lot of people now days actively participate in very realistic violence in video games and violent movies are grosser than ever... under the guise of horror (that's not horror, that's just gore).

Anyway, need a better test.

Agreed lava but i think any testing for violence is almost pointless.I train and teach getting punched,kneed,elbowed,kicked,picked up and slammed on a daily basis yet most people who actually know me say im one of the nicest,laid back,calm people they know.When i watch horror movies i dont just start armbaring,punching and whatever else to people in the same room haha.Think violence these days has more to do with how people are raised,but that's just my opinion.

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Brain Area 'Where Evil Lurks' Doesn't Exist: Neurologist

Evil is alive and is lurking in the brains of certain individuals, if you believe news reports linked to a respected German neurologist. The news of the scientist's discovery, however, has attracted some naysayers — including the neurologist himself.

http://www.livescience.com/26918-gerhard-roth-brain-area-evil.html

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Isnt that just instinct? 'Mans' will to survive as it is in the animal kingdom! As we advance/ evolve we become can so say become 'evil'! But surly its just evolution and man advances in science etc?

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Eh. I think this is a broad generalization because everybodys brain is different, thats why we have Einsteins and George Bushes, there both thinking on two different levels. If this is correct it would mean that everybody is essesntially the same, which I dont believe. Now there may be dark spots in the brain that contribute to evil behavior and what not but I dont think all the evil that a person does can be contributed to one spot in the brain.

Also I can eat a full meal while Im watching zombies rip someones flesh from the bones, or leatherface sticking a chainsaw through someone. That doesnt make me want to go and eat people or kill them with chainsaws. :w00t:

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