seeder Posted February 17, 2013 #226 Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) I assumed by reading there description off RSOE there was no video. They dont use dashcams like in the Euro. There still fond of there 50's an d 60's classics over there and they dont do well with mounted cameras. So yeah I agree that in no way is what happened yesterday there. Its actually hardly made the news but the description is of alot of shaking houses and stuff. Probably a common shooting star type of event that has been dressed up in light of the Russian news story. Lots of things make shanty houses shake. Gusts of wind usually, or just climbing the stairs... Heck Ive seen dozens of shooting stars, usually only JUST though...a very quick trail of color/light and they're gone! Never seen a biggy... . Edited February 17, 2013 by seeder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted February 17, 2013 #227 Share Posted February 17, 2013 The Guardian news is a trifle better than the Mirror, well a big trifle actually and here's what they say "It is not clear what the objects spotted were, or indeed if they actually existed. Cuba does not lie far from the shores of southern Florida and a major meteorite streaking through the heavens would likely to have been spotted there. In California, a telescope monitoring the same stretch of sky did not pick up any unusual activity" Click the link they do have another vid of a meteor in San Francisco http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/feb/16/russian-meteorite-sightings-cuba-california But to keep a grip on things, in fairness you can see meteors/shooting stars - whatever you know them by, MOST nights in certain parts of the world, so we can expect a load of new video's and pics popping up from now on.... till the buzz wears off. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted February 17, 2013 #228 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Seems that whenever something like this happens people become sensitized and every little twitch and pop that happens everywhere gets linked to it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted February 17, 2013 #229 Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) seeders found it folks.. the Cuban puff of smoke and heres the news site with full story. In Cuban spanish http://www.cubasi.co...o-de-cienfuegos . Edited February 17, 2013 by seeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted February 17, 2013 #230 Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) Ha from the stills it could be anything, hardly a straight line trajectory now was it? edit for source http://peru.com/actualidad/nacionales/cuba-medios-reportan-caida-meteorito-provincia-cienfuegos-video-noticia-121887 . Edited February 17, 2013 by seeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted February 17, 2013 #231 Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) Ha from the stills it could be anything, hardly a straight line trajectory now was it? edit for source http://peru.com/actu...-noticia-121887 If the thing had been rotating perpendicular to its path, then this is probably how the smoke trail would have looked like. . Edited February 17, 2013 by Abramelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted February 17, 2013 #232 Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) If the thing had been rotating perpendicular to its path, then this is probably how the smoke trail would have looked like. The winds are pretty strong at that altitude, the trail wouldn't remain a straight line for long. Edited February 17, 2013 by Waspie_Dwarf typo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted February 17, 2013 #233 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I just don't think it can be rulled out that the rock that pummeled chelybinsk wasn't a direct result of DA14's close flyby.. *shrugs shoulders* If I'm missing a point I sure hope someone will enlighten me. 2012 DA12 approached from under the South Pole and travelled south to north. It could not, therefore, have impacted in the northern hemisphere. The Russian object was travelling north to south. As the two objects were travelling in the opposite directions they can not possibly have been related. There is no cause and effect here. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted February 17, 2013 #234 Share Posted February 17, 2013 2012 DA12 approached from under the South Pole and travelled south to north. It could not, therefore, have impacted in the northern hemisphere. The Russian object was travelling north to south. As the two objects were travelling in the opposite directions they can not possibly have been related. There is no cause and effect here. waspie where did this asteroid come from? was it from our asteroid belt? or has it travelled from outside of the solar system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted February 17, 2013 #235 Share Posted February 17, 2013 waspie where did this asteroid come from? was it from our asteroid belt? or has it travelled from outside of the solar system? Who knows, our solar system is filled with rocks that are orbiting around the sun on different trajectories, usually from within our solar system, rather than from interstellar space. Every once in a while, our planets gravity draws them in, and some of them will take us by surprise. To get a better idea where this meteor came from, scientists will need to find it and analyze it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted February 17, 2013 #236 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Who knows, our solar system is filled with rocks that are orbiting around the sun on different trajectories, usually from within our solar system, rather than from interstellar space. Every once in a while, our planets gravity draws them in, and some of them will take us by surprise. To get a better idea where this meteor came from, scientists will need to find it and analyze it. They could always start here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Meteorite-Russia-15-02-2013-/111013565868?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d8ec95ac (there are loads of similar items there too, but the authenticity is highly questionable! And why the hell is it listed as NEW when its millions of years old? You could buy that then get ebay to refund you based on misleading description! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted February 17, 2013 #237 Share Posted February 17, 2013 They could always start here: http://www.ebay.com/...=item19d8ec95ac (there are loads of similar items there too, but the authenticity is highly questionable! And why the hell is it listed as NEW when its millions of years old? You could buy that then get ebay to refund you based on misleading description! haha, I did once email someone who was selling a bit of meteorite on ebay as "new", I asked then that exact question, they changed the listing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted February 17, 2013 #238 Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) They could always start here: http://www.ebay.com/...=item19d8ec95ac (there are loads of similar items there too, but the authenticity is highly questionable! And why the hell is it listed as NEW when its millions of years old? You could buy that then get ebay to refund you based on misleading description! Maybe Chebarkul Lake is a better place to start,... http://rt.com/news/meteorite-crash-urals-chelyabinsk-283/ Edited February 17, 2013 by Hazzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted February 17, 2013 #239 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Maybe Chebarkul Lake is a better place to start,... http://rt.com/news/m...helyabinsk-283/ As I know little about things like these, do they shatter on impact with the cold lake water, going from red hot to cold? Im wondering if it will be in many pieces and harder to find.. Or maybe not, I know they search the ice fields for meteorites as they show up better against the snow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted February 17, 2013 #240 Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) Here is a link to an Associated Press article on the Cuban meteorite. It sounds much larger than the usual sort of 'fireball' meteor, which aren't especially uncommon. The light is described brighter than the Sun. The pressure waves reportedly shook buildings. If the meteor came in at a low enough angle, it might not have been seen too far afield. The Russian meteor also appears to have come in at a shallow angle. Link: http://www.politico....sion-87731.html Edited February 17, 2013 by bison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted February 17, 2013 #241 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Watching programme about the floods in England, the reports about the floods and those of the meteors are relatively new. Today people all have mobile phones to record these events. So when you see someone going OMG today, rest assured they were NOT the first through out history to have said it. Remote areas were never caught on cameras before, so many of these events are not as unusual as some may think in some areas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted February 18, 2013 #242 Share Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) Kremlin calls for creation of global Star Wars-style missile defence system to save the world from future asteriod strike Deputy premier Dmitry Rogozin called for international early warning system Just 10,000 out of one million asteroids bigger than 2012 DA14 were tracked http://www.dailymail...iod-strike.html There are some 1,300 space rocks on NASA's list of 'potentially hazardous asteroids' - yet many like the one that struck Chelyabinsk were not tracked in advance. . Edited February 18, 2013 by seeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted February 18, 2013 #243 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Well we don't need to worry about tracking it any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted February 18, 2013 #244 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Kremlin calls for creation of global Star Wars-style missile defence system to save the world from future asteriod strike Deputy premier Dmitry Rogozin called for international early warning system Just 10,000 out of one million asteroids bigger than 2012 DA14 were tracked http://www.dailymail...iod-strike.html There are some 1,300 space rocks on NASA's list of 'potentially hazardous asteroids' - yet many like the one that struck Chelyabinsk were not tracked in advance. . And at the same time countries like North Korea or Iran are building their own nuclear missiles to destroy man, let alone all the other countries which have them...just incase! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted February 18, 2013 #245 Share Posted February 18, 2013 And at the same time countries like North Korea or Iran are building their own nuclear missiles to destroy man, let alone all the other countries which have them...just incase! Which is relevant how? This is the astronomy section. North Korea's nuclear programme has no relevance. Will you please try to keep on topic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhaten-pasheri Posted February 18, 2013 #246 Share Posted February 18, 2013 As yet I do not tire of watching this event. Doubtless many here have seen heaps of video by now. I found this one today, a compilation with some very familiar scenes, and some that may be new. At one minute is a very good video of the explosion I never saw before, also cool music track added. I noticed there are some video now appearing that have been "enhanced" to show mysterious extra objects or ejecta at precise time of main explosion. Probably all faked... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted February 18, 2013 #247 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Which is relevant how? This is the astronomy section. North Korea's nuclear programme has no relevance. Will you please try to keep on topic. Was just pointing out that we are looking at ways to defend ourselves from things coming to Earth, when on Earth we have people building things to destroy us. Was not singling North Korea out. But you are right, the missile defense system to protect us has nothing to do with the missiles which can destroy us. Will mention it again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted February 18, 2013 #248 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Seems that they have some fragments of the meteor but no big lump like you'd have thought caused the hole in the ice. Maybe its early days yet... “This is a stone meteorite, an ordinary chondrite. We have diagnosed all the common minerals found there- the metallic iron, and olivine, and sulfite,” Grohovsky elaborated. The scientists at the “Nanotech” center evaluated that over eight percent of the mass of the examined samples consisted of these metals. "Most likely, (the find) will be called Meteorite Chebarkul," the Russian university said. http://rt.com/news/meteorite-lake-chebarkul-urals-432/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libstaK Posted February 18, 2013 #249 Share Posted February 18, 2013 As yet I do not tire of watching this event. Doubtless many here have seen heaps of video by now. I found this one today, a compilation with some very familiar scenes, and some that may be new. At one minute is a very good video of the explosion I never saw before, also cool music track added. I noticed there are some video now appearing that have been "enhanced" to show mysterious extra objects or ejecta at precise time of main explosion. Probably all faked... That was pretty cool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted February 18, 2013 #250 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Most meteorites that have fallen upon our planet originated within the Asteroid Belt, which lies between Mars and the gas giant Jupiter. A comparatively small number of meteorites are known to have come to us from two of our closest neighbors-Mars, and our own moon. A few specialists have theorized the some meteorites may even be remnants of comet nuclei. However, the vast majority of stone meteorites were once part of the crust of asteroids. ================================================================================= The space object exploded into at least seven large pieces and hundreds of small ones, researchers claimed. One of the big fragments fell into the Chebarkul Lake, and is believed to have formed an ice-hole 8 meters in diameter. ========================================================== The researchers aim to conduct further analysis before registering “Chebarkul Meteorite” in the international catalogue. ================================================ At least we have a name for it now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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