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Why are me and my sister huddling about in corners?

Why do we run a mile when we spot a Staffie on a playing field?

Because my sister has a pathological hatred of Staffies.

So I have to follow her lead when we go on a dog walk with Ty and Kayla.

Anybody would think Staffies have got fangs the way she's carrying on.

Then Ty and Kayla become undead boxers and totally immortal.

However it could be that she wants to avoid a confrontation between them and the dogs.

So what's the big problem with Staffies?

I've got a feeling their on the dangerous dogs list but their reputation does precede them.

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It's because the owners treat them like bad dogs, every time i seen one, the owner looks aggresive

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I couldn't give you any statisitics, but I have a feeling that they are responsible for a high number of attacks and the like, compared to other dogs.

I guess for the chavs wanting a status dog its the next best thing to having a pitbull, but they don't have to worry about them being illegal, yet.

It's natural to be more wary of a dog like a Staffordshire Bull Terrier than a lab (heck I know the cutest staffy cross who loves people but would rip the head off other dogs) but a pathological hatred is a bit far.

Staffies are also very common, people breed from them when sadly no one wants them, and a lot of them end up in rescues. That probably doesn't help as if you're going to have a 'good' staffy you'll want it socialised as early as possible, I would imagine. No expert.

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I couldn't give you any statisitics, but I have a feeling that they are responsible for a high number of attacks and the like, compared to other dogs.

I guess for the chavs wanting a status dog its the next best thing to having a pitbull, but they don't have to worry about them being illegal, yet.

It's natural to be more wary of a dog like a Staffordshire Bull Terrier than a lab (heck I know the cutest staffy cross who loves people but would rip the head off other dogs) but a pathological hatred is a bit far.

Staffies are also very common, people breed from them when sadly no one wants them, and a lot of them end up in rescues. That probably doesn't help as if you're going to have a 'good' staffy you'll want it socialised as early as possible, I would imagine. No expert.

There's some pretty grim statistics involving kids being mauled by Staffies.

There was one case where a woman had to stab the Staffie to save her husband.

I wouldn't say statistics as such but a load of tales of woe.

My sister's pretty clued up on all things dog- related so she could be bearing this in mind.

There's quite a few of the " unwashed" in Langley no doubt with Staffies and Pitbulls in tow.

That's probably the reason why me and my sister are going to get done for launtering.

Could it be that some owners think they are ugly as sin.

Or some respectable ones think they are getting tarred by association.

But it could be that apart from the in- breeding they must have outlived their usefulness as a fighting dog.

It's quite natural to think that people who are ugly have bad intentions.

However beauty is only skin- deep.

They are the same species as Boxers and I honestly think Staffies have the same capacity for love.

Just give them a chance.

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As the owners go, so go the dogs. Any problem with any large breed animals is always down to the owner not knowing how, or more often, not caring to control their dogs.

The other night I was walking at the park and saw two mini-schnauzers coming in my direction with a couple. Being the owner of schnauzers all my life, I naturally tend to gravitate toward other mini-schnauzer owners. Especially when they have the same unique colour combinations of my two: one silver, one black. I never approach a dog unwelcome, however I did pause to talk to the black one in a tone one might use toward an infant because he was barking at me a lot. The woman was like, "He's not very friendly," and spoke in a very snide way. I thought well no wonder with an owner like you! But I continued my walk.

No matter what the breed, if the owner doesn't work with the dog to socialise it, then no matter what the size, it's going to be bad.

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I think the problem is people no longer see animals as 'companion animals', they see them as objects, dolls for dressing up, status symbols (whether its "look at me I have a big scary dog I'm a hard man" or "look at me I have the perfect family, a wife 2 kids and a dog"), breeding machines in the case of some pedigree dogs, despite the obvious deformities present in some breeds, a way to make money, or just a thing they do not care for.

Animals need time, money and love.

Breeds like staffies, rottweilers, alsatians, have the capacity to seriously harm and kill people when not properly trained, that's the issue. That's not to say they aren't capable of being great pets, given the chance. Smaller dogs can be just as nasty if improperly trained (in fact some of the nastiest dogs I've met have been small breeds).

/rant.

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Another 'problem' with the likes of Staffies and GSD's etc, is the fact that they have strong jaw muscles and any bite administered by this type of dog is liable to be quite memorable!

The dogs with the worst bite record are Welsh Corgis and Rough (Lassie) Collies, but both breeds lack the jaw strength necessary to inflict serious wounds.

BTW, in the case of the Lassie collies, the fashion for long, narrow heads may be one of the reasons for the breed's mental instability, because the brain is deformed by selective breeding.

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Its not the dogs its the 'owners' - a term I use advisedly. As others have stated, the bad reputation comes from bad 'owners' bringing the dogs up to be aggressive and extensions for their own inadequacies.

When I have assisted at micro-chipping (which yes is being done by good/responsible owners with socialized animals), some of the nicest/best dogs we've dealt with have been Staffies - friendly, playful but well-behaved.

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Its not the dogs its the 'owners' - a term I use advisedly. As others have stated, the bad reputation comes from bad 'owners' bringing the dogs up to be aggressive and extensions for their own inadequacies.

When I have assisted at micro-chipping (which yes is being done by good/responsible owners with socialized animals), some of the nicest/best dogs we've dealt with have been Staffies - friendly, playful but well-behaved.

If only all dog owners followed these simple guidelines...

Get your dog microchipped.

Give them three lengthy walks a day.

Though dog food is okay you need to introduce them to a raw food diet.

When indoors make sure you regularly play with them.

If you can try to do a spot of dog whispering using experts like Cesar Milan.

Make sure you neuter then because that makes them calmer.

Regular visits to the vets.

Keep them away from illegal dog fighting rings.

^^^ But of course some Chavs don't follow the instructions.

Speaking of illegal fighting they have found a new way of stealing dogs to order in Yorkshire.

They mark houses with coloured stickers to determine the size of the breed.

I can imagine Staffies are amongst the numbers because of their powerful jaws.

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There is nothing wrong with Staffies, my dog is part staffy, and the other is half bull terrier. As with most dogs, the issues come from the idiot who backyard breeds them

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Are you legally allowed to carry anything with you to protect you from a dog attack?

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Staffs are cheap, strong, naturally fairly agressive breeds who are low maintenance. Kids and street gangs can buy them cheaply, train them to attack and use them in dog fights and fights vs other gangs. Well bred staffs who are well traiend are lovely dogs but the massive abundence of cheap staffs with poor breeding histories results in lots of agressive dogs.

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