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Venezuela's Hugo Chavez dies aged 58

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Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez has died, his vice-president has announced.

Mr Chavez had not appeared in public since he returned to Venezuela last month after cancer treatment in Cuba.

An emotional Nicolas Maduro made the announcement on Tuesday evening, flanked by leading Venezuelan political and military leaders.

Earlier, he said the 58-year-old Venezuelan leader had a new, severe respiratory infection and had entered "his most difficult hours".

http://www.bbc.co.uk...merica-21679053

I know that many will disagree, but I feel this is a true shame. He was a great man for his people, regardless of opinions, and I am actually slightly in shock by this.

I just hope Venezuela ends up with a leader that cares about them half as much as this man did. And I truly hope they keep their oil and minerals.

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Not shocking if he had cancer...

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I have been a critic of him but putting that aside I think he has done ok for the poor, I think he could done more.

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I knew he had cancer, of course, but I heard no news of the usual type that comes with cancer deaths. With cancer, you usually hear days before the death that the patient is entering their final stretch, such is the nature of the disease. But, as a way to appear strong in public eyes, it seems, all we heard on Chavez was that he was back in hospital - which has been almost routine for the past couple of years.

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Well we will see if that will cause some changes in their politics.

R.I.P. Hugo.

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Really not surprised as much as he has been in the hospital lately. RIP

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US propaganda aside, he did a lot for the country. The US had previously muscled them into a deal where they sold oil to the US at the US dollar on the basis that the rich in the country got most of the money. Chavez deteriorated that deal and helped out the poor who were getting almost nothing the whole time.

So much for having an "evil" ideology.

R.I.P Hugo Chavez.

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years ago I read a post on some consiracy web-site that in the late 50's and early 60's the CIA was doing research in which they had developed a way to give assaination targets a very aggressive form of cancer. I googled the phrase cia aggressive cancer and this is one of the stories that came up.

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2012/10/cia-killing-south-american-leaders-with-cancer-2445074.html

If memory serves the cancer was developed with Castro in mind but he was always too wary of a target.

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Maybe now Venezuela will be able to resume it's path to the 21st century.

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sorry to hear of the man's passing, as anyone who champions the cause of the common man is worthy of respect.

the way he tried to renationalise industry was an inspiration, and i'll always remember him as the anti-thatcher.....

RIP hugo!

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Maybe now Venezuela will be able to resume it's path to the 21st century.

If by that you mean the rich get richer and the poor die younger, you are correct.
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He wasn't any worse than other leaders in Central and South America, but he drew all the crap-talk in the US media and govt because he has all the oil, and wanted to control his own resources. So he was demonized, nearly assassinated, and made into the Western Hemisphere's bogeyman, while CNN reported today that he needed a bogeyman in the US to support his populist approach. It's just politics, the political differences serve only to entrench the disagreement and conflict. It's just another example of the same dynamic repeated across the world: If you have something the US wants, and you don't do what the US wants you to do with it, you'll be isolated, vilified, punished, killed, even invaded and removed from power. What's our role in all this? Just pay attention to the bad stuff the bogeyman does (while ignoring our own). How convenient.

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He called Bush "the Devil" on the floor of the UN in 2006, and was applauded for doing so. I thought it was one of the funniest things I ever saw in all my years of watching political science. The UN worked for a change.

He was foolish to embrace radical socialism and communism, which when coupled with the streets of his capital city being some of the most dangerous in the world, and you have little more than clever madness.

I will miss the machismo much more than the man.

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He did help a lot of people, but he did many horrendous things too. He was basically a dictator grasping for power, but maybe that is what the people of Venezuela needed at the time....

I do wonder what will happen next? Did he have a successor picked? Or will there be mock elections held?

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he was still a bad guy even his own people hated him

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The world lost a Marxist. It's a good day!

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I know that many will disagree, but I feel this is a true shame. He was a great man for his people, regardless of opinions, and I am actually slightly in shock by this.

au contraire, i FULLY AGREE....! And furthermore, a lot of the "bad stuff" spread about him will turn out to be spread propaganda. My wife's family is from Chile, and also there, people see him in a completely different way then we do in the US or europe. There really goes an outstanding politician.

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Venezuela have declared 7 days of mourning after his death..

I wonder if we would do the same for our beloved leader Mr Cameron?

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Not really surprising, given all the health problems he was having it was just a matter of time. As a leader seems like he was a mixed bag. Yes he did some good stuff but at the same time he also did some fairly nasty stuff too. Not as evil as some claim but hardly the white knight that others hold him up as. Personally I think it was his opposition to the US that really divided opinion. There are those who condemn him largely because he went out of his way to attack the US and there are also those who praise him largely because he went out of his way to attack the US.

Hopefully the country can have a peaceful election and smooth transition and focus on building up Venezuela and helping its people.

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If by that you mean the rich get richer and the poor die younger, you are correct.

No, I mean that maybe now Venezuelans will get a chance to advance and create wealth for themselves instead of for a dictator:

Analyst estimates Chávez’s family fortune at around $2 billion

Criminal Justice International Associates (CJIA), a risk assessment and global analysis firm in Miami, estimated in a recent report that the Chávez Frías family in Venezuela has “amassed a fortune” similar to that of the Castro brothers in Cuba.

According to Jerry Brewer, president of CJIA, “the personal fortune of the Castro brothers has been estimated at a combined value of around $2 billion.”

“The Chávez Frías family in Venezuela has amassed a fortune of a similar scale since the arrival of Chávez to the presidency in 1999,” said Brewer in an analysis published in their website.

Brewer said that Cuba is receiving about $5 billion per year from the Venezuelan treasury and in oil shipments and other resources.

“We believe that organized bolivarian criminal groups within the Chávez administration have subtracted around $100 billion out of the nearly $1 trillion in oil income made by PDVSA since 1999.”

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Somewhere Sean Penn is crying.

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No, I mean that maybe now Venezuelans will get a chance to advance and create wealth for themselves instead of for a dictator:

i serously doubt it.what is combined wealth of our politicians??? i bet a lot higher than 2b chavez had.

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i serously doubt it.what is combined wealth of our politicians??? i bet a lot higher than 2b chavez had.

What a ridiculous way to try to justify the actions of a dictator.

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