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Drunken teen eaten by stray dogs

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You won't see this in the mainstream news, but children and others are routinely attacked by the hordes of abandoned dogs on Indian reserves in North America. "Parents" buy puppies for their kids and then neglect them (much like their kids) so they form packs and run down deer and people.

This news story would not have been made public except for a Freedom of Information request to the coroners office. Most Indian reserves have their own police, who act on orders of their chiefs, so mums the word.

Even after shooting hundreds of dogs, there are still plenty of packs that roam around, starving and freezing.

Guardians and stewards of Mother Earth? I don't buy this noble savage propaganda.

p.s. this new case didn't occur in the high Arctic, it happened on a reserve just north of Montreal.

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Gosh that is horrible!

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Are the dogs from the Indian reserve? I would be surprised if they treat their dogs so badly and just abandon the puppies.

its sounds like an awful lot of stray dogs which have been thrown out, or has this been going on for so long that they have lost control on the number of strays?

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Damn . Reason not to get drunk #462

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I suspect stray dogs are a problem to some degree or another in almost every county except the Chinese-influenced cultures where dogmeat is seen by many as a delicacy.

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It's terrible news, but why is the original post so racist against native americans?

How do you know they neglect their kids? Personal experience?

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These dogs are feral, they've returned to a wild state and are now wild animals. Starving wild animals are dangerous and will eat whatever they can. Sadly, the adult unsocialized (now wild) adults should be destroyed and the young should be placed for adoption that will allow them a life of domestication. Humans created this mess and the onus is on us to fix it...I don't blame the poor dogs.

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You won't see this in the mainstream news, but children and others are routinely attacked by the hordes of abandoned dogs on Indian reserves in North America. "Parents" buy puppies for their kids and then neglect them (much like their kids) so they form packs and run down deer and people.

This news story would not have been made public except for a Freedom of Information request to the coroners office. Most Indian reserves have their own police, who act on orders of their chiefs, so mums the word.

Even after shooting hundreds of dogs, there are still plenty of packs that roam around, starving and freezing.

Guardians and stewards of Mother Earth? I don't buy this noble savage propaganda.

p.s. this new case didn't occur in the high Arctic, it happened on a reserve just north of Montreal.

Please refrain from calling First Nations savages, they are not.

~Thanato

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Thanks for that interesting piece of information. didn`t know that it was such a threat.

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Please refrain from calling First Nations savages, they are not.

~Thanato

hmm, it did seem that way, thats why I was asking were the dogs being thrown out as puppies by those on the reservations? it does seem very odd.

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Wandering back over the thread, and considering some of the comments, I think this may be a fiction or at least an exaggeration motivated by racial attitudes.

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Wandering back over the thread, and considering some of the comments, I think this may be a fiction or at least an exaggeration motivated by racial attitudes.

Having been to a few Reserves, some are in fact over run by Farrel dogs. Most of those dogs eat scraps. I can see this happening and then the community tried to cover it up (which I can also see happening)

~Thanato

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From a 2012 annual report in an Ontario "First Nation".

"M‟Chigeeng First Nation has a Dog By-Law in place.Elvis Debassige was the dog catcher last year.For the last 3 years, we have put down 125 dogs, but Band Members keep getting more dogs, some even have dogs that are not allowed on the reserve, (according to the by-law) but will not co-operate."

http://mchigeeng.ca/...nual_report.pdf

This is not the exception on reserves, this is business as usual, that no Natives want to talk about, except me. Yup, I'm a Status Indian, living on a res. Child/animal neglect and abuse is rampant.

http://www.thestar.c...tawapiskat.html

http://news.national...ative-reserves/

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I suspect stray dogs are a problem to some degree or another in almost every county except the Chinese-influenced cultures where dogmeat is seen by many as a delicacy.

lol, really??? wow.first of all it is koreans that eat puppys(not adult dogs), not chinese.they don't eat it regularly, it IS tradition, not nesSesety, just like eating horses in usa. there are plenty of stray dogs in china and both koreas.the only places where strays are not a problem, is where the problem is taken care of on regular basis.

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We don't have a tradition of eating horses in the USA...

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We don't have a tradition of eating horses in the USA...

there is such tradition, not wide spread, i saw it on hisrtory channel, was surprised my self, but hey, if you didn't encouter it personaly does not mean it never happens.

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there is such tradition, not wide spread, i saw it on hisrtory channel, was surprised my self, but hey, if you didn't encouter it personaly does not mean it never happens.

I'm sure it happens in some places but most Americans are appalled by the thought. It's not a tradition.

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there is such tradition, not wide spread, i saw it on hisrtory channel, was surprised my self, but hey, if you didn't encouter it personaly does not mean it never happens.

Mmmmm love me some horse meat!! yummy ;)

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I'm sure it happens in some places but most Americans are appalled by the thought. It's not a tradition.

it is for those that eat them. i never said most americans eat horses, i said there is a tradition.

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The kid died of hypothermia, and was partially eaten by dogs.

I think the real concern should be the out of control alcholism that affects these reservations.

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I think the real concern should be the out of control alcholism that affects these reservations.

True

I don't know why so many of them have drinking problems. Even though it's definitely a cruel stereotype, more often than that it's true. Sadly, you don't hear many success stories from Native Americans other than running business like casinos or those high interest payday loan services.

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We don't have a tradition of eating horses in the USA...

Don't tell that to Burger King, or Taco Bell.
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If you don't mind me asking redhen, why is there are a problem with drinking and child neglect on the reservation? Is it the conditions of the reservation itself or is it something else, may I ask? If you don't mind, I'm interested in the sociological aspects. Part of the reason why is I regularly get mail asking for donations to certain Indian schools, and your answer could help me decide to whom to give. Thanks.

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If you don't mind me asking redhen, why is there are a problem with drinking and child neglect on the reservation? Is it the conditions of the reservation itself or is it something else, may I ask? If you don't mind, I'm interested in the sociological aspects. Part of the reason why is I regularly get mail asking for donations to certain Indian schools, and your answer could help me decide to whom to give. Thanks.

Well, I might be able to help at least in Canada. Back in the day, the government forcibly removed children from there families and there communities and placed them in Schools run by nuns. There was much abuse, and even death, in these schools. Now these children learnt English and where punished for anything that dealt with there culture (such as language, etc). Well this system was eventually abolished and the government has apologized but it didn't correct the issue. Anyway, these children where raised by the system with no self identity. This nearly destroyed First Nations culture which is now only beggining to recover (in part thanks to youth involvement). When finaly they had kids, many of them didn't know how to raise them, and there only experience was being beaten, etc. So many transferred this onto there own children.

Now for Drugs and Alcohol some of it is to drowned out the pain of this experience, others because it is boring in these communities. But most of it has to do with the human body doesn't have the same natural ability to process alcohol as other humans. This was due to their late exposure to Alcohol. So First Nations people are more susceptible for addiction to these substances because the body is not able to break down alcohol as easily (at least thats what a doctor told me).

Anyway, I'm not First Nations, however my son is.

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Don't tell that to Burger King, or Taco Bell.

That's not even meat, that's beans and sand! lol

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