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"iam" - "i am"

what do they mean to u?

" i am what i am"

used by reebok.....but do u really know the meanin of this Quote?

another quick example

the movie "i am legend"

the singer and song "Will.I.Am - I Am "

list goes on....

but what is a "iam" or a "i am"

think about it.....

look at these vid and see how many times "i am" is mentioned and picturised

mainstream music industry

Will.I.Am -

mainstream sports industry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x52WBgHBIH4

RBK I am what I am

mainstream movie industry

click here to watch the video

im not too sure of the meaning myself....but i do feel there is more to them two words than meets the eye.....and why the words are so commonley used by mainstream media...

the people who do there research maybe might be able to understand what im getting at...

heres a few more links to help people along with the research

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22I_AM%22_Activity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_am_that_I_am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_That

http://www.saintgermainfoundation.org/

http://www.iamsammovie.com/

http://iamlegend.warnerbros.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_am

http://www.iamuniversity.ch/

http://will-i-am.blackeyedpeas.com/

http://www.iam.com/

http://www.hariam.org/CASTLE/oottila.htm

http://www.netinetifilms.com/

this is just a random selection of links...

the masons use this term also.....

"I Am that I Am," the Mason Proclaims

Equally blasphemous is that in the lecture on the seventh, or Royal Arch Degree, of

the York Rite, the Mason initiated is asked the question, "Are you a Royal Arch

Mason?" His answer is required to be: "I am that I am."8

In other words, in this degree's ritual the Mason has not only acknowledged that

the devil, in the guise of Jahbuhlun, is his sacred Lord, but he now is declaring that

he, himself, a mere man, is the great I am! In other words, he is saying, "I am God!"

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There's also something in the Catholic teachings, I just became aware of .I'm not certain if it's in the catholic bible , or another one of their books, but , there is a verse that says ,or, it refers to oneself as god , I used the lower case g being that I'm not sure which one they are referring themselves to.

It seems to me that it's pretty evident in the entertainment industry and what is being spead as the new age movement, nothing new though . I've also realize that songs too are written most of the time in the same likeness and often refer to something other than what they seem to appear to come off as , like say , to someone that is not aware of it. I feel odd even mentioning it ,because so many people are just not aware of it ,and they pass it off as nonesense , when in fact it's happening.

Glad to see someone mention it by the way.

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I don't

quite get

exactly

what

you

are

trying to

say

right

here.

Nor

do I

quite

have

the

energy

to go

through

all of

those

links.

...

Oh

well

...

:)

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I don't

quite get

exactly

what

you

are

trying to

say

right

here.

:)

funny guy

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Posted (edited)

Oh dear.... you had more of a chance with the number thing.

Now this is just ridiculous!

You mention Reebok and the film "i am legend" and this is the killer "will I am" and then finish your sermon with " In other words, he is saying, "I am God!"

What are you on?

Edited by freetoroam

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Great thread. The Rastas hold the belief that the Holy Spirit and Temple of God are within, so they call themselves I and I. I think this kind of theology is called the inner god concept. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_God

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Oh dear.... you had more of a chance with the number thing.

Now this is just ridiculous!

You mention Reebok and the film "i am legend" and this is the killer "will I am" and them finish your sermon with " In other words, he is saying, "I am God!"

What are you on?

whats up?, you don't like my posts?

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You missed one.

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whats up?, you don't like my posts?

On the contrary, I actually like them.

I never though I would ever see will I am and god in the same sermon. Carry on Kais, I am intrigued. :tu:

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You missed one.

Now there is a man I would call God.th_smiley-bow.gif

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I am a pantheist, so yup, I am God. I am the evolution of the Universe to reflect upon itself. Beat that.

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I am a pantheist, so yup, I am God. I am the evolution of the Universe to reflect upon itself. Beat that.

I AM (me) not even going to try.

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The L.iam !

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The phrase "I am who I am" is biblical in origin. It comes from the story of Moses, when God appeared to him in the burning bush. God called Moses to lead his people, but Moses said he wasn't up to the task. So if he did go to the people, and they ask him which God has sent him, what name should he give. The reply was: God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM." And he said, "Say this to the people of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'" (Exodus 3:14). The term "I AM" became synonymous with God.

In the New Testament, in John 8:58-59, the Jews tried to stone Jesus because he claimed to be "I AM", an obvious attempt at calling himself God, which is blasphemy to any Jew.

Hope this information helps :tu:

~ Regards,

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The phrase "I am who I am" is biblical in origin. It comes from the story of Moses, when God appeared to him in the burning bush. God called Moses to lead his people, but Moses said he wasn't up to the task. So if he did go to the people, and they ask him which God has sent him, what name should he give. The reply was: God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM." And he said, "Say this to the people of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'" (Exodus 3:14). The term "I AM" became synonymous with God.

In the New Testament, in John 8:58-59, the Jews tried to stone Jesus because he claimed to be "I AM", an obvious attempt at calling himself God, which is blasphemy to any Jew.

Hope this information helps :tu:

~ Regards,

Thanks for that

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The phrase "I am who I am" is biblical in origin. It comes from the story of Moses, when God appeared to him in the burning bush. God called Moses to lead his people, but Moses said he wasn't up to the task. So if he did go to the people, and they ask him which God has sent him, what name should he give. The reply was: God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM." And he said, "Say this to the people of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'" (Exodus 3:14). The term "I AM" became synonymous with God.

In the New Testament, in John 8:58-59, the Jews tried to stone Jesus because he claimed to be "I AM", an obvious attempt at calling himself God, which is blasphemy to any Jew.

Hope this information helps :tu:

~ Regards,

I'm pretty sure humankind used just this phrase or something close to it prior to biblical times. After all, at its most basic, it is a declaration of our existence and our identity, not necessarily with any religious connotation. BTW, there is a really good documentary called "I AM" that I highly recommend.

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I'm pretty sure humankind used just this phrase or something close to it prior to biblical times. After all, at its most basic, it is a declaration of our existence and our identity, not necessarily with any religious connotation. BTW, there is a really good documentary called "I AM" that I highly recommend.

I'm sharing how "I AM" is used in its most ancient form, at least Ancient as can be transmitted through writing. Perhaps it existed before this. I wouldn't necessarily agree with such, but it might exist. But since the Hebrew scriptures are amongst the oldest existing writings we have (not the oldest, but amongst the oldest) then that is what we have to work with. Good luck in trying to prove an earlier incarnation of "I AM" through other sources. Edited by Paranoid Android
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That raises a question I will throw out to for the real Bible scholars about: Moses asked for God's name, which we know was "Jehovah" (Yaweh or something like that but in English it's Jehovah). Why didn't God just answer the question instead of all that "I am" business? And what is it all about anyway?

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That raises a question I will throw out to for the real Bible scholars about: Moses asked for God's name, which we know was "Jehovah" (Yaweh or something like that but in English it's Jehovah). Why didn't God just answer the question instead of all that "I am" business? And what is it all about anyway?

The theological answer is "Progressive Revelation". I'm currently occupied doing other things so I don't really have the time to flesh this answer out, but theologically speaking there is no problem with thinking of God as "Yahweh" and the "I Am" of Exodus 3.

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The theological answer is "Progressive Revelation". I'm currently occupied doing other things so I don't really have the time to flesh this answer out, but theologically speaking there is no problem with thinking of God as "Yahweh" and the "I Am" of Exodus 3.

Is that how literalists interpret this -- okay. Interesting. You don't mention the scholarly view that it comes from somewhat less than perfect combination of stories derived from varying sources. Progressive revelation seems to be a way to handle all sorts of rough edges.

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Um. People talk about themselves a lot and the verb forms of "to be" are the most commonly used in English.

There's your answer.

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That raises a question I will throw out to for the real Bible scholars about: Moses asked for God's name, which we know was "Jehovah" (Yaweh or something like that but in English it's Jehovah). Why didn't God just answer the question instead of all that "I am" business? And what is it all about anyway?

The Jewish names of God are all aspects of how He manifests in different ways at different times, so each name representated a sacred aspect or power, all mighty, eternal, merciful, judge, wise... kind of thing. It is said that when Moses asked and who shall I tell them sent me?,

God told him his real highest name but Moses had a speech defect and God knew he couldn't pronounce it so God gave him I Am that I Am or it can also mean "I shall be what I shall be" Commentaries say that when Moses finally did utter the Name later, the people knew it was a sign of God's power because the sounds were ones that Moses could not normally speak. It is also said that God could have made Moses' speech normal but that there was a purpose

for it and serving with his brother Aaron.

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