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America Nuked 9/11

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You had better call the authorities in NYC who issued that report.

You had better call United Airlines, operator of United 93, that confirmed the crash site as that of United 93.

In addition:

Text: United Airlines Statement on Plane Crashes

Following is a statement issued by United Airlines on the crash of Flight 93 near Pittsburgh and Flight 175 in a location that was not immediately disclosed:

United Airlines has now confirmed that two of its aircraft have crashed.

— UA 93, a Boeing 757 aircraft, departed from Newark, N.J. at 8:01 a.m. local time, bound for San Francisco, with 38 passengers on board, two pilots, five flight attendants.

— UA 175, a Boeing 767 aircraft, departed from Boston at 7:58 a.m. local time, bound for Los Angeles, with 56 passengers on board, two pilots and seven flight attendants.

United has confirmed it will dispatch a team to Johnstown, Pa., as soon as possible to assist, in every way possible, with the investigation and to provide assistance to the family members.

“Our thoughts are with the passengers, employees and family members of those involved. Today’s events are a tragedy and our prayers are with everyone at this time,” said James E. Goodwin, United’s CEO.

Goodwin said United is working with all the relevant authorities involved in today’s events and will provide further information as soon as it is available.

http://www.washingto..._text091101.htm

From the United 93 Crash Site at Shanksville

HANKSVILLE, Pa. -- Investigators have identified remains of four of the 44 people aboard Flight 93, the jetliner that crashed here 11 days ago, the Somerset County coroner said yesterday. But the attempt to identify the rest -- a process that involves using DNA testing to confirm the conclusions -- could go on for a year, Coroner Wallace Miller said.

Just the search for remains, across fields and woodlands in a little-populated swath of mountains, could continue for months before Miller decides to call it off. "It's not going to happen until I'm satisfied that we've done everything we possibly can," he said.

Miller reported the first identifications yesterday [Friday, 9/21] as investigators continued to dig through the crash site seven miles northeast of Somerset, shoveling out mounds of earth, then sifting through that soil for remains, personal belongings and bits of the Boeing 757.

4 more Flight 93 passengers identified

Wednesday, October 10, 2001

By Tom Gibb, Post-Gazette Staff Writer

The Somerset County coroner said yesterday that officials have now identified the remains of 16 of the 44 passengers aboard United Airlines Flight 93, the plane that crashed into a former strip mine in rural Stonycreek Sept. 11.

The addition of four names to the list came through DNA sampling -- the first DNA matches made in the identification of remains, Coroner Wallace Miller said yesterday.

Identifications of remains of the first 12 passengers, made through the beginning of last week, was done using dental records and fingerprints. Investigators had exhausted that avenue and have since been relying exclusively on DNA, which will enable the coroner's office to identify more remains at a steady pace, Miller said.

http://stevenwarran....mobile-dna.html

A look at United Flight 93, ten years later

(CBS News) ATLANTA - Of all the jets hijacked on 9/11/01, we know the most about United Flight 93. CBS News transportation correspondent Mark Strassmann reports the FBI found both its cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder intact, as deep as 25 feet underground. It was the only usable cockpit recording recovered from the attacks that day.

The voice recorder picked up the sound of the passengers outside the cockpit door. One yelled, "...in the cockpit, if we don't we'll die!" Then there's the sound of a flight attendant's service cart being rammed into the door, again and again.

The flight data recorder shows Jarrah, the terrorist pilot, rocked the 757 wildly side to side, in an apparent effort to throw the passengers off their

feet.

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Only 60 truckloads ,how many truckloads of building material do you think it took to build two one hundred and ten story skyscrapers weighing in at half a million tons each ?

60 truckloads in one particular place. Do you think that was all there was? Why did it take years to clear the site, and in fact they're still discovering stuff even now .

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Yes, in all our talk of weapons and death rays, high temperatures and unusual forms of cancer, we forget to discuss what has been known for a long time--many of the bodies were almost cremated. Another indicator that jetfuel & gravity were very minor factors in the events of the day.

That's what I was trying to tell you earlier, lots of other stuff that will burn. I don't know why you have so much trouble with the concept that a building contains a lot of combustible material. If you do the maths, you'll find that burning 3000 bodies will provide more energy than the jet fuel.

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yes, and those photos can be found online, id rather not look at them again so ill leave you and google up to that one.

their is some photos here that you might find disturbing too.

http://thewe.cc/weplanet/news/depleted_uranium_iraq_afghanistan_balkans.html

and this just yesterday

A SOLDIER who caught a deadly illness after serving on the frontline in Iraq is being denied life-saving treatment by the NHS.

Former medic Katrina Brown, 30, was exposed to radioactive material used in bunker buster bombs.

She needs stem cell treatment only available in the US but the NHS will not pay the £110,000, so she survives for now on 18 pills a day, costing over £3,000 a month.

Katrina says the base where she ran a clinic near Basra in 2003 stored toxic missiles from the first Gulf War in strict “no go” areas.

But when she left, she was handed a card confirming she had been exposed to depleted uranium.

whoever made the decision to put depleted uranium in a war head is a monster and this isn't going away either ,their will be a few chickens coming home to roost soon but beware they may be radioactive or cancerous .

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A SOLDIER who caught a deadly illness after serving on the frontline in Iraq is being denied life-saving treatment by the NHS.

Former medic Katrina Brown, 30, was exposed to radioactive material used in bunker buster bombs.

She needs stem cell treatment only available in the US but the NHS will not pay the £110,000, so she survives for now on 18 pills a day, costing over £3,000 a month.

Katrina says the base where she ran a clinic near Basra in 2003 stored toxic missiles from the first Gulf War in strict “no go” areas.

But when she left, she was handed a card confirming she had been exposed to depleted uranium.

whoever made the decision to put depleted uranium in a war head is a monster and this isn't going away either ,their will be a few chickens coming home to roost soon but beware they may be radioactive or cancerous .

Radiation from DU is not a hazard and is low-key radiation. In fact, we often left DU counter-weights in the open when balancing aircraft control surfaces. You can even ingest DU dust and most of it will be excreted through the kidneys in a short period of time. The alpha particles cannot penetrate human tissue nor even a sheet of paper.

U.S. soldiers ride in tanks whose armor is made from DU, but were you aware that depleted uranium has been used in some golf clubs and brightly colored crockery dinnerware?

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Radiation from DU is not a hazard and is low-key radiation. In fact, we often left DU counter-weights in the open when balancing aircraft control surfaces. You can even ingest DU dust and most of it will be excreted through the kidneys in a short period of time. The alpha particles cannot penetrate human tissue nor even a sheet of paper.

U.S. soldiers ride in tanks whose armor is made from DU, but were you aware that depleted uranium has been used in some golf clubs and brightly colored crockery dinnerware?

here is the link again, you may not had time to read it before trying to defend war crimes.

http://thewe.cc/weplanet/news/depleted_uranium_iraq_afghanistan_balkans.html

Fallujah children's 'genetic damage'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-10721562

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here is the link again, you may not had time to read it before trying to defend war crimes.

I do believe the Serbs were slaughtering thousand upon thousands of inncent people years before NATO became involved in order to stop the slaughtering of innocent civilians at the hands of the murderous Serb forces. How many thousands more would have lost their lives had NATO not become involved?

Nothing to do with radiation from DU. DU is a heavy metal like lead, which is where the toxicity of DU lies. In some cases, DU was even used in false teeth. Now, let's take a look at the rest of the picture that you somehow overlooked.

How many thousands of innocent Iraqis were being slaughtered at the hands of Saddam Hussein before the United States became involved? How many hundreds of thousands of people were slaughtered during the the Iran/Iraq war which Saddam Hussein had started?

Halabja massacre's 5,000 victims commemorated in 25th anniversary

Thousands of Kurds joined commemorations for the 25th anniversary of the Halabja massacre in northern Iraq on March 16. The Halabja gas attack was the deadliest offensive within the al-Anfal campaign of Saddam Hussein's Iraqi government that targeted the Kurdish population. Nearly 5,000 people died in what is thought to be the world's deadliest-ever chemical attack against civilians. Three quarters of the victims were women and children.

http://www.hurriyetd...D=238&nid=43099

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That's what I was trying to tell you earlier, lots of other stuff that will burn. I don't know why you have so much trouble with the concept that a building contains a lot of combustible material. If you do the maths, you'll find that burning 3000 bodies will provide more energy than the jet fuel.

Do a little research and discover the temperatures necessary to cremate the human body. Then discover the temps at which the fires were burning on the 85th floor.

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Do a little research and discover the temperatures necessary to cremate the human body. Then discover the temps at which the fires were burning on the 85th floor.

Remember, the impacts of the B-767s is what started the fires in the first place. Once again, no evidence that nukes were used.

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This is a segment from the Italian TV show, L'inchiesta ("The investigation"), which used footage shot by American filmmaker and Vietnam Veteran,Patrick Dillon. The witness being interviewed, Majid Al-Ghazali was well-known in Baghdad as First Violinist in the Baghdad Symphony Orchestra, but like all Iraqi men under Saddam, he had been compelled to fight in three wars over the previous 30 years and had loads of experience with weapons and their effects on people and materiel.

On April 12, 2003, Al-Ghazali was a witness to "Shock and Awe" attacks which erupted in his neighbourhood, near Baghdad International Airport and he reported seeing the use of what he determined must be experimental weapons mounted on an unusual-looking tank, which emitted "concentrated lightning bolts," which may have been Tactical High Energy Lasers. Al-Ghazali described the remains of those who weren't completely incinerated by this weapon to be "shrivelled to the size of new-born babies."

Directed Energy Weapons used in Iraq (Part 1 of 3)

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This is a segment from the Italian TV show, L'inchiesta ("The investigation"), which used footage shot by American filmmaker and Vietnam Veteran,Patrick Dillon. The witness being interviewed, Majid Al-Ghazali was well-known in Baghdad as First Violinist in the Baghdad Symphony Orchestra, but like all Iraqi men under Saddam, he had been compelled to fight in three wars over the previous 30 years and had loads of experience with weapons and their effects on people and materiel.

On April 12, 2003, Al-Ghazali was a witness to "Shock and Awe" attacks which erupted in his neighbourhood, near Baghdad International Airport and he reported seeing the use of what he determined must be experimental weapons mounted on an unusual-looking tank, which emitted "concentrated lightning bolts," which may have been Tactical High Energy Lasers. Al-Ghazali described the remains of those who weren't completely incinerated by this weapon to be "shrivelled to the size of new-born babies."

Directed Energy Weapons used in Iraq (Part 1 of 3)

Apparently, I know of no such weapon in use in Iraq.

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tell that to the first responders who now have cancer .

I want to show you why mini-nukes were used as a means to discredit 911 Truthers. Review this video and watch it twice and remember the force of the explosion and understand the explosive yield of the explosion is only 70,000 POUNDS.

This is what a mini-nuke looks like.

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It has an explosive yield of 6000 TONS, more than 170 times the explosive power you saw in the video. Now, review the next video to see if people in close proximity felt the heat of 50+ million degrees and saw or heard an explosion that even comes close to what was heard and felt in the first video and understand the camera in the next video is much closer to the action than in the first video.

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I hope you now understand why the idea of mini-nukes was used to discredit the 911 Truther Moverment.

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Well Sky, it turns out there are some people who disagree with you.

What do you offer in the way of proof or facts that is so compelling?

Hazmat suits, which officials were not wearing, no recorded EMP, properties of depleted uranium, ways to show how contaminants such as tritium can be transferred to the site and noted the very fact that toxic materials are found on building sites. In the first 2 or 3 pages anyway, stil catching up. Not to mention there is no vitrification in the photos provided as "evidence".

All of which is pretty darn compelling I have to say. Much more so than some fantasy about some new made up weapon that does not behave like a Nuke, but claims those behaviours are modified with imagination to fit this rather silly accusation.

Goddam, next to that "author" which I have another term for, Jeff Prager, Sky looks like freaking Stephen Hawking.

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tell that to the first responders who now have cancer .

I work in construction, and a colleague of mine developed cancer about 2 years ago. I am more than pleased to say "he beat it".

When he had his chest X Rays, he noticed some solid blue lines that ran along the bottom of his lungs, and he asked the Doctor what the hell it was. The Doctor replied by asking him if he worked in construction, when he replied "yes" The doctor told him "all your colleagues look like that inside too, it is fine dust and concrete dust".

Asbestos was prevalent in buildings right up to the 70's and it was killing us. Many of us that put that stuff up happen to still be hanging on. It is hardly surprising that toxic materials in the rubble caused ailments.

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What is essentially the difference between a home made nuke and an official nuke ?

I think the people who try to make them at home end up in jail and killing themselves from exposure. Have you ever heard much about David Hahn?

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I doubt it.

Nothing about that day was natural. In fact, being UNNATURAL is rather the hallmark of those events. Unnatural collapses, abnormal procedures, unnatural aeronautical events, unnatural sounds and noises, unnatural statements by people, etc etc.

Of course. What is rational about religious fundamentalism? How is that in any way "normal"? Stone your daughter to death because she was talking to a male who is not a relative? That's natural?

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Sure Sky, radium is used in some industrial equipment. And in some medical equipment.

But that does not mean, and YOU cannot prove, whether or not there was any there, or how much of it.

OTOH the circumstantial evidence of a radiological events is growing day by day.

Hang on

You admit that it is solid proof that hazardous materiels are found at building sites, but that does not matter, because circumstantial (made up) evidence is being gathered by some nutter with a screw loose, and this somehow challenges that which we all acknowledge as fact????

Circumstantial evidence trumps actual evidence??? What?

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Al-Ghazali described the remains of those who weren't completely incinerated by this weapon to be "shrivelled to the size of new-born babies."

And you believe that???? They miniaturised entier skeletons did they? Shrunk bones so to speak????

Come on. That's even wilder than Nukes being used without any normal Nuke side effects like the EMP pointed ut by Sky. The TV cameras seemed to be working just fine, I do not remember them dropping out, do you?

Are you perhaps related to Bee in any way? Some death rays and experimental holographic space hotels would fit just dandy in this tall tale.

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This is a segment from the Italian TV show, L'inchiesta ("The investigation"), which used footage shot by American filmmaker and Vietnam Veteran,Patrick Dillon. The witness being interviewed, Majid Al-Ghazali was well-known in Baghdad as First Violinist in the Baghdad Symphony Orchestra, but like all Iraqi men under Saddam, he had been compelled to fight in three wars over the previous 30 years and had loads of experience with weapons and their effects on people and materiel.

On April 12, 2003, Al-Ghazali was a witness to "Shock and Awe" attacks which erupted in his neighbourhood, near Baghdad International Airport and he reported seeing the use of what he determined must be experimental weapons mounted on an unusual-looking tank, which emitted "concentrated lightning bolts," which may have been Tactical High Energy Lasers. Al-Ghazali described the remains of those who weren't completely incinerated by this weapon to be "shrivelled to the size of new-born babies."

Directed Energy Weapons used in Iraq (Part 1 of 3)

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Do we have a picture of this Unusual looking tank, without having to go through the video, which one suspects will probably not have been made with objectivity foremost in mind?

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Do we have a picture or any corroboration of the existence of this Directed energy weapon, or this unusual looking Tank?

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Birth defects in Fallujah 14 x higher than Hiroshima and Nagasaki after atomic bomb.

Babies born with two heads, babies born with their intestines outside their body take a look at what some have done in our name .

155 countries voted against using depleted uranium in war heads , only America,france, uk and Israel voted to carry on this abomination ,makes you proud doesn’t it.

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Do a little research and discover the temperatures necessary to cremate the human body. Then discover the temps at which the fires were burning on the 85th floor.

You wouldn't look such an idiot if you did the research yourself before you asked me.

Crematorium, typically around 950 deg C.

NIST modelling of WTC fires, around 800 to 1100 deg C.

These temperatures are typical of building fires in general:

http://www.interactf...legislation.asp

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Do we have a picture or any corroboration of the existence of this Directed energy weapon, or this unusual looking Tank?

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watch part 2 to see it in action.

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watch part 2 to see it in action.

That looks very much like a Searchlight, and if it was so ultra-secret I wonder if they would leave it out in the open for anyone to look at, and apparently photograph. And I'd like to see how they mount that on an AFV.

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