Thumbprint of god & PHI

[monk 56]

So who was the nut that started all this? It was Dragutin Dimitrijevic code name APIS, in translation can mean OSIRIS ha ha!

http://en.wikipedia....n_Dimitrijević

Where do these nuts get the names from for their Secret Societies, Black Hand sounds like the fiction book LORD OF THE RINGS!!!!

Edited April 4, 2013 by monk 56

[SHaYap]

what did I do now ?

[monk 56]

Dear Third Eye,

You did nothing wrong, other than i thought you were acting like a wolf pack waiting on Harte to respond first before chiming in with comments, i would rather you debate with me as an individual!

The answer to your question is below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Day

I must admit that the federation is confusing with so many countries joining, but to create thesis the best way is showing what countries did in your region, i have written a lot about Japan but not all, i have written about Australia, Burma and Hong Kong, soon i will write about China and New Guinea on link below, this thread will be never ending in approach and will cover world history, but give me a chance, i've only been a member for 6-7 months and i'm slow due to disablement, please read all so far with link below:-

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=232340&st=0

For a while this topic has moved to silly numerology and how dangerous it can be, this can have different interpretation in the East, Burma loves 8 so we get 8888 Uprising on 8th August 1988, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8888_Uprising

Recently China demonstrated this belief in 8 with the Beijing Olympic Games, but obviously no one got hurt or were meant to, however does give insight into the crazy world of superstitious numbers:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Summer_Olympics_opening_ceremony

[SHaYap]

Dear Third Eye,

You did nothing wrong, other than i thought you were acting like a wolf pack waiting on Harte to respond first before chiming in with comments, i would rather you debate with me as an individual!

The answer to your question is below:-

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Malaysia_Day

I must admit that the federation is confusing with so many countries joining, but to create thesis the best way is showing what countries did in your region, i have written a lot about Japan but not all, i have written about Australia, Burma and Hong Kong, soon i will write about China and New Guinea on link below, this thread will be never ending in approach and will cover world history, but give me a chance, i've only been a member for 6-7 months and i'm slow due to disablement, please read all so far with link below:-

http://www.unexplain...pic=232340&st=0

For a while this topic has moved to silly numerology and how dangerous it can be, this can have different interpretation in the East, Burma loves 8 so we get 8888 Uprising on 8th August 1988, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia....i/8888_Uprising

Recently China demonstrated this belief in 8 with the Beijing Olympic Games, but obviously no one got hurt or were meant to, however does give insight into the crazy world of superstitious numbers:-

http://en.wikipedia....pening_ceremony

Not my topic of preference really, and to add ... I don't run with packs, not my style

I don't know much about you but if you're familiar with the Far East you'll have to separate superstition from cultural with the 'crazy world of numbers'

I'm no expert and I'm in no position to hold any end of any debate, just personal experience and opinions really.

cheers ...

The I Ching (Wade-Giles) or "Yì Jīng" (pinyin), also known as the Classic of Changes, Book of Changes or Zhouyi, is one of the oldest of the Chinese classic texts.^[1] The book contains a divination system comparable to Western geomancy or the West African Ifá system; in Western cultures and modern East Asia, it is still widely used for this purpose.

Traditionally, the I Ching and its hexagrams were thought to pre-date recorded history,^[2] and based on traditional Chinese accounts, its origins trace back to the 3rd to the 2nd millennium BC.^[3] Modern scholarship suggests that the earliest layers of the text may date from the end of the 2nd millennium BC, but place doubts on the mythological aspects in the traditional accounts.^[4] Some consider the I Ching the oldest extant book of divination, dating from 1,000 BC and before.^[5] The oldest manuscript that has been found, albeit incomplete, dates back to the Warring States Period (475–221 BC).^[6]

wiki

note : bold and red mine

~edit : to add ... election run in just declared today .... Parliament 'dissolved'

Edited April 4, 2013 by third_eye

[monk 56]

Dear Third Eye,

Don't try to make yourself small, you are big enough to always debate with me, but when i made the comment about Malaysia Day on 31st March on thread, i didn't know that Parliament was going to be dissolved on 3rd April 2013....did i, you gave that information, so we do bounce off each other, i like that!

http://www.aljazeera...3738431861.html

Obviously i give lots of astronomy graphs, if i was giving false information, don't you think that the bright minds of the astronomy and astrophysics forum would be on my back?

Okay the coalition in Malaysia are trying to get an advantage by belief in Sirius, they have been in power for 57 years, they want to keep power and have aligned to Sirius by dissolving parliament on 3rd April 2013. Ancient Greek day marker was chosen at location of Kuala Lumpur, where Parliament sits, as Sun set on 2nd April, Sirius was culminating in the centre of the sky, astronomy graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com...=7120&mode=view

I don't want to frighten you, Third Eye, so don't get spooked!

Edited April 4, 2013 by monk 56

[SHaYap]

Dear Third Eye,

Don't try to make yourself small, you are big enough to always debate with me, but when i made the comment about Malaysia Day on 31st March on thread, i didn't know that Parliament was going to be dissolved on 3rd April 2013....did i, you gave that information, so we do bounce off each other, i like that!

http://www.aljazeera...3738431861.html

Obviously i give lots of astronomy graphs, if i was giving false information, don't you think that the bright minds of the astronomy and astrophysics forum would be on my back?

Okay the coalition in Malaysia are trying to get an advantage by belief in Sirius, they have been in power for 57 years, they want to keep power and have aligned to Sirius by dissolving parliament on 3rd April 2013. Ancient Greek day marker was chosen at location of Kuala Lumpur, where Parliament sits, as Sun set on 2nd April, Sirius was culminating in the centre of the sky, astronomy graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com...=7120&mode=view

I don't want to frighten you, Third Eye, so don't get spooked!

hmmmm .... no wonder I had a craving for lamb stew that night

[monk 56]

Hi Third Eye,

Lets hope the election isn't prone to corruption, or you may be the lamb in the stew ha ha!

I'd just like to finish up on W.W.1. now before going back to Phi.

When the trial of conspirators that assassinated Achduke Ferdinand took place the media missed it, as the First World War had started, a transcript was made of the trial but gathered dust for many years, then a guy called W. A. Dolph Owings translated it into English and called it "The Sarajevo Trial", sadly it is now long out of print and very expensive to buy second hand, however it is a scholarly translation transcript of the trial of the conspirators and is valued by all major libraries, i'm not sure Third Eye if you can get it in Malaysia, the nearest place i can find to you would be Australia, who only have FIVE COPIES OF THE DOUBLE VOLUME BOOK, link below:-

http://trove.nla.gov...sion=NBD3925112

Many history scholars use this book and you will see it mentioned under "REFERENCES" below:-

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Latin_Bridge

Hell i had to borrow it from the British Library, and because it was two volumes, if i lost it, i would have to pay £230:00 penalty, link below, (twice £115):-

http://2012forum.com...=6833&mode=view

I couldn't offord to buy the book so copied it from my printer, i'm a bad boy ha ha!

Most of the conspirators had Tuberculosis and during that time was a killer so had no reason to lie at the trial, they do mention Freemasons but i think there are good ones and bad ones, links to a few pages are below:-

http://img201.images...01/904/1jm0.jpg

http://2012forum.com...=3710&mode=view

Edited April 5, 2013 by monk 56

[SHaYap]

I can barely afford tomorrows lunch ...

[monk 56]

Hi third Eye,

I'm concerned that you don't seem to have any money, as your country goes to the polls in the next election, i would thank you if you can give any insight into poverty in Malaysia, i would value your comments.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_Malaysia

When i was young i used to listen to "Letter from America" by Alistair Cooke on BBC radio, so was very interested in world affairs even from a young age....i still am!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_from_America

[SHaYap]

Hi third Eye,

I'm concerned that you don't seem to have any money, as your country goes to the polls in the next election, i would thank you if you can give any insight into poverty in Malaysia, i would value your comments.

~snip

Insights ? I'm just the average joe who is neither here nor there and don't particularly care very much ....

Surely you're not saying we have the resources

To save the poor from their lot?

There will be poor always, pathetically struggling.

Look at the good things you've got.

Think while you still have me!

Move while you still see me!

You'll be lost, and you'll be sorry when I'm gone.

EVERYTHING'S ALRIGHT - Jesus Christ Superstar Soundtrack

One of my favourite albums which is a double CD album ... bliss

1Malaysia (pronounced One Malaysia in English and Satu Malaysia in Malay) is an on-going programme designed by Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak on 16 September 2010, calling for the cabinet, government agencies, and civil servants to more strongly emphasise ethnic harmony, national unity, and efficient governance.

wiki

Prime Minister Najib has instructed the National Civics Bureau or Biro Tata Negara (BTN) to use its courses and seminars to educate present and future civil servants, politicians, and community leaders about 1Malaysia and promote national unity. Deputy Prime Minister Ahmad stated, “We will ensure that the BTN courses also inculcate the 1Malaysia concept and its eight values, namely high performance culture, accuracy, knowledge, innovation, integrity, strong will, loyalty and wisdom.

but the poor would forever need more

~edit : just woke up

Edited April 5, 2013 by third_eye

[monk 56]

Hi Third Eye,

I see we are still bouncing off each other, on your last post, 2nd Quote up from bottom you mention 16th September 2010, and it was 16th September 1963 that began this debate about Malay politics, as Sun rises on 16th September 2010 in Kuala Lumpur, Alnilam still culminates in the centre of the sky!

A lot of people want separation of religion from politics, we have enough trouble dealing with the main religions we have today, without dealing with an elite secret religion that most think is long dead and is a corruption of beliefs that originated in Egypt, usaully it is secret societies that align the stars in this way, and although i don't think all of them are bad, i wish they would stay out of politics, and what has Egyptian beliefs to do with Malaysia, that few of the population would follow or vote for?

[SHaYap]

Hi Third Eye,

I see we are still bouncing off each other, on your last post, 2nd Quote up from bottom you mention 16th September 2010, and it was 16th September 1963 that began this debate about Malay politics, as Sun rises on 16th September 2010 in Kuala Lumpur, Alnilam still culminates in the centre of the sky!

A lot of people want separation of religion from politics, we have enough trouble dealing with the main religions we have today, without dealing with an elite secret religion that most think is long dead and is a corruption of beliefs that originated in Egypt, usaully it is secret societies that align the stars in this way, and although i don't think all of them are bad, i wish they would stay out of politics, and what has Egyptian beliefs to do with Malaysia, that few of the population would follow or vote for?

google 'Petronas Twin Towers' and the 'KL Tower'

then 'Dayabumi KL'

have fun

~edit : hint - google maps

Edited April 6, 2013 by third_eye

[monk 56]

Hi Third Eye,

Firstly lets show 16th September 2010:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1Malaysia

The majority of the people from your country follow Islam beliefs:-

http://en.wikipedia....lam_in_Malaysia

The Petronas Towers have a footprint of an eight pointed star links below:-

http://en.wikipedia....Petronas_Towers

http://en.wikipedia....vel_43_plan.svg

The Dayabumi Complex is adorned with eight pointed stars, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia....ayabumi_Complex

Please scroll down link below to "State Symbols and Flag" for the state of Azerbaijan:-

http://azembassy.rs/articles/view/3

In the cultural West the five pointed star means Sirius, however in the East it can be the eight pointed star in symbolism!

Please scroll down to the number eight on link below:-

http://en.wikipedia....Chinese_culture

There is much corruption in all religions, Muslims are no different to the rest of us, please note link below regarding Quran:-

http://www.islamawak.../49/default.htm

Edited April 6, 2013 by monk 56

[monk 56]

Please note Kmt_sesh,

I come here for debate, being the best forum on unexplained forums, i'm not here to score points but obviously i will give a good debate, long ago i could have written a book and made a lot of money, i'm not interested, i'm half dead and disabled, if i spook anyone it is myself, I DON'T WANT TO BE RIGHT, hell find someone to debate with me, i give myself nightmares regarding politics!

I'm really not sure who is who regarding 11th September:-

http://ukmidcopts.org/home/index.php/coptic-orthodox/calendar

[SHaYap]

Hi Third Eye,

~snip

There is much corruption in all religions, Muslims are no different to the rest of us, please note link below regarding Quran:-

http://www.islamawak.../49/default.htm

Alas ... and you were doing so well, you missed the KL Tower by the way ...

[monk 56]

Hi Third Eye,

I have a glitch on my computer that i haven't figured out yet, but i can't get to Google Earth, perhaps you can explain about these buildings and any puzzle or theory?

When you have done that i will explain why Japan busted a gut to invade Kuching, Sarawak by 25th December 1941.

[SHaYap]

Frankly speaking monk 56 ... I have not the slightest idea ...

[monk 56]

Hi cyclope,

I'm going to tell on you to my mate Apollo for making up stories, in Greek myths he zaps cyclopes ha ha!

[monk 56]

I see you have a caption " Bring your own Beer", if i join do i get the beer from Cyclops Beer ha ha!

http://www.cyclopsbeer.co.uk/

My joke is in good taste i hope, it depends on the beer! i'm not keen on lamb stew though!

I like Goats Head Soup, but only on the ears!

http://www.stonesarc...ve-gallery/8-3/

Perhaps your ears are on your back Third Eye, Kmt_Sesh knows the meaning of that ha ha!

Edited April 7, 2013 by monk 56

[monk 56]

Last bit of fun before i move on to more serious matters, Third Eye, you will find the Egyptian Proverb below:-

http://www.historyof...pt_proverbs.htm

You will like the Beer Proverb also ha ha!

Edited April 7, 2013 by monk 56

[monk 56]

I wait for meaningful debate, do i get any offers? Jokes are all very well but it doesn't get us anywhere? it could seem the best minds can't deal with me, i wouldn't want that going out in the collective beyond this forum, sharpen your tools, i want to be proven wrong!

[monk 56]

Having a Classical education isn't bad in looking at the patterns of the past, obviously looking at symbolism of Goats Head Soup, is only an album by Rolling Stones, but they are a group that has been around for 50 years!

My debate with Third eye fell, he gave no support for analysis, i will always do that.

Goats Head Soup is very funny being a Rolling Stone Album, in symbolism i show the connection by intention to A) Malaysia Day, being 16th September 1963 in Kuala Lumpur, but also same alignment but different date in Washington DC, so now The National Security act happened at location on 18th September 1947, this formed many things regarding the military in the United States, like United States Air Force and C.I.A, links below:-

http://en.wikipedia....tates_Air_Force

http://en.wikipedia....lligence_Agency

Langley just outside Washington DC happened later!

Funny isn't it same alignment but different day to Malaysia Day, but only due to different location, again i say Third Eye likes Lamb Stew, but by my ears i like Goats Head Soup, can you see connection in symbolism?

Astronomy graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com...=3907&mode=view

Obviously i'm saying this is intentional, only by many having a classical education, it ruled a couple of centuries ago, it still is active today in symbolism!

WHO WANTS THAT IN 21st CENTURY POLITICS, don't get me wrong i love my classical philosophy, but i don't want it in POLITICS, thats wrong!!!

Edited April 8, 2013 by monk 56

[monk 56]

The Acid test is well known.....Please please dabate, you have no idea where i would lead ha ha! What no dedate? Silence is golden.....you are not helping yourselves, hell i will be dead within a few years, then you can forget about the CLASSICAL, but how will human history play out? Believe it or not superstitious people love Classical interpretation, i'm within Classical Philosophy, although i love classical philosophy, i'm more concerned in getting it out of POLITICS!!!! Why not every one else has reason in religious idea's. Politics is good when it stand alone, i don't want GOAT'S HEAD SOUP ha ha!

[monk 56]

Sorry about spelling mistakes above, my fingers are not what they were!

Having dealt with CERN, The Large Hadron Collider and Rutherford Appleton Laboratory/ISIS Neutron Source, i will go back to links below:-

http://www.scienceda...00107143909.htm

http://esciencenews....a.quantum.world

In science this is a big discovery regarding PHI and Math, and perhaps God, it is the best information we have about intelligence in the Universe, however the link below is a long way from being proven, but interesting!!!

http://physicsworld....-a-dodecahedron

PHI fits into a Dodecahedron.....interesting years to come in science and MATH!!!!!

However with my first two links above, they also mention HZB, we must investigate!

They are an amalgamated group of Laboratories, the oldest of which is "The Hahn-Meitner Institute, the opening ceremony was on 14th March 1959 in Berlin, Germany, Midnight day marker was used at location when Sirius was setting along horizon in the West, information and astronomy graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com...=7139&mode=view

Any comments?, no i didn't think so....we may have modern Alchemists, move over Harry Potter and Sirius Black, Ha Ha!

Edited April 9, 2013 by monk 56