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People who think they tune in to dead voices

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Advocates of Electronic Voice Projection (EVP) claim they can use radio equipment to communicate with the dead. But are they just hearing what they want to hear?

http://www.bbc.co.uk...gazine-21922834

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The history of EVPs goes further back than 1969.

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Maybe they are but the EVP's I've heard really wasn't all that clear.

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Advocates of Electronic Voice Projection (EVP) claim they can use radio equipment to communicate with the dead. But are they just hearing what they want to hear?

http://www.bbc.co.uk...gazine-21922834

After watching programs like "Ghost Hunters International" they are just hearing what they want to hear. They blatantly humanize everything they encounter in every episode. There aren't "shadows" on the wall, there's "a shadow" implying that it must be an entity. Human faces are always searched for and often found in the pictures and video. "Does that look like a face to you?" "Yeah oh wow!" Higher frequency unexplained sounds are "female" while lower frequencies are automatically "male". The question on every episode "Did you hear that?" is seriously considered to be evidence of a haunting and some major creative license is employed for hearing "voices" assigned to every random sound their recorders pick up. Who knew that static on the recording was really human whispering? In one episode the crew freaked out because a straw moved in a glass full of ice, apparently they aren't familiar with how ice melts. I watch the show for the old European castles and homes they are invited into but after several episodes I never saw a shred of anything I'd consider to be paranormal.

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Dare i say? Duuuuuhhhhhh

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There's plenty of clear EVPs.

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There's plenty of clear EVPs.

....which you can direct us to.

All the ones I've heard sounded like "Murumph!" or "Umulmph". I'd like to hear one say, "Geeeettt oooouuuuutttt!"

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After watching programs like "Ghost Hunters International" they are just hearing what they want to hear.

Not all the time. Whenever i watch these shows sometimes i can get a Compleatly different message from what there evp is saying. Its all a matter of interpretation to who is listening to it though.

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I've heard 100s of evps ,and of them,I think maybe,mmmaayyybbbe ,a dozen sounded like words. Most sound like utter gibberish .

That being said,some stuff caught via evp method ,even if not words ,is creepy ,and I think suggests something is making contact .

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I have heard plenty of good evps

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I saw quite an interesting program the other night with Derren Brown following (the late) US Ghosthunter Lou Gentille and in parts of the programme they were attempting to catch some EVPs. While they did catch something, it was almost impossible to make out. Derren took the evidence to a expert witness in audio recordings to see what the sounds were and he said it was electronic interference picking up radio waves generating the human like sounds. Also, that the circuitry automatically compensates between louder and quieter noises which brings the interference up to the louder level, which makes it audable.

Derren found a disclaimer on the recording device: "This device must accept any interference received including interference that may cause undesired operation"

If you can access it, you can see the programme here: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/derren-brown-investigates/4od

The short examination of the EVP is at 37:24

Personally, I think it's a very interesting phenomena, especially in cases where there appears to be intellegent responses but I think this can be explained in a conventional way.

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"There's plenty of clear EVPs."

I would love some links. We had an "EVP specialist" posting here a while back, maybe 9-10 months ago. He wrote some very extensive posts about his research and finally gave us some submissions. He talked about using "control words" etc. One of them was "peanutbutter" hence my avatar signature. Not sure if anyone remembers the EVPs linked but they were very amusing.

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I saw quite an interesting program the other night with Derren Brown following (the late) US Ghosthunter Lou Gentille and in parts of the programme they were attempting to catch some EVPs. While they did catch something, it was almost impossible to make out. Derren took the evidence to a expert witness in audio recordings to see what the sounds were and he said it was electronic interference picking up radio waves generating the human like sounds. Also, that the circuitry automatically compensates between louder and quieter noises which brings the interference up to the louder level, which makes it audable.

Derren found a disclaimer on the recording device: "This device must accept any interference received including interference that may cause undesired operation"

If you can access it, you can see the programme here: http://www.channel4....nvestigates/4od

The short examination of the EVP is at 37:24

Personally, I think it's a very interesting phenomena, especially in cases where there appears to be intellegent responses but I think this can be explained in a conventional way.

I also saw that episode, and it was very sad, as that was an example of a man interpreting extremely apparent pareidolia into what he felt was ghosts talking. But the thing is, although that is really common, as you can see if you look around at EVP's, there are also others that aren't nearly so blatant misinterpretations. We could all hear that it was an interference static spike. Yet in some EVP's, we hear whispers and mutters that don't have the audio qualities of a static spike from interference. So you can't use this man as an example of what EVP's are. People can do the same with anything. You see Evil Knievel on the TV in the '70's, and he excites you. So you swear that you are Evil Knievel when you ride your bike down the street. But others see you as you are, a kid riding his bike awkwardly down the sidewalk. You can't take this kid as an example, or the millions like him, and say that no one who rides like Evil Knievel exists. They disillusioned hopeful are just more common.

What does all this mean? Is Evil Knievel a ghost? No! It means that you can't take the majority of examples, or the most extreme, and say that all are cases should be attributed to this example.

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I also saw that episode, and it was very sad, as that was an example of a man interpreting extremely apparent pareidolia into what he felt was ghosts talking. But the thing is, although that is really common, as you can see if you look around at EVP's, there are also others that aren't nearly so blatant misinterpretations. We could all hear that it was an interference static spike. Yet in some EVP's, we hear whispers and mutters that don't have the audio qualities of a static spike from interference. So you can't use this man as an example of what EVP's are. People can do the same with anything. You see Evil Knievel on the TV in the '70's, and he excites you. So you swear that you are Evil Knievel when you ride your bike down the street. But others see you as you are, a kid riding his bike awkwardly down the sidewalk. You can't take this kid as an example, or the millions like him, and say that no one who rides like Evil Knievel exists. They disillusioned hopeful are just more common.

What does all this mean? Is Evil Knievel a ghost? No! It means that you can't take the majority of examples, or the most extreme, and say that all are cases should be attributed to this example.

I used to love Evil Knievel :) I appreciate where you are coming from and have heard many many EVP's from the usual TV shows, but not many "directly". I have seen that someone has started up a thread showing their "Class A EVP" which I'll listen to when I'm not at work and see what I make of it. I guess the evidence is like most things in that the vast majority could be nothing but interference and technology, but some have the potential to be genuine. I try to keep an open mind ;)

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