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That's fine... as long as people are free to leave as they please.

I agree. Like when a natural disaster happens, they will advice people to leave an area but not force them to.

Um, when we had those wildfires out here where I live, the firefighters and cops, pretty much forced us out of our house, taking only a few things we could grab. We actually, were told if we need to get anything or feed or water our animals we had to call the cops and the firefighters to come out and they had to escort us out here. We were like, S*** that, it OUR house and land, OUR animals, and we can't let them starve! (We had our dogs with us, but we have cows, chickens, a horse, and cats) I know they (the cops and firefighters were mad at us about that, but I really didn't care. Neither did my in laws) Then they wouldn't let us home for more than a WEEK which is ****** ridiculous, and my mother in law, had a VERY long talk with the Sheriff about what was going on out here. The Sheriff was very angry that they hadn't let us go home yet, and he called the firefighters and told them we could come home. It was the LONGEST, WORST week of my life! It really was. My little boy, who is 2 now, was 10 months old at the time, and he wanted to go home. He wanted his bed, and his house. I'm sorry but, a government agency shouldn't be able to force people from their homes! I understand there was a danger from the fire, and fire is completely uncontrollable, but to keep us out a WEEK!! Just so some people could keep playing "Glory Boy"....Also, many of the firefighters had their FAMILIES out here while they were fighting the fires, yet we couldn't go home???

The whole thing was just a mess.

So you'd rather be unprepared?

Oh I'm prepared. Enough food, water, and supplies, for at least a year! Lots of baked beans! :yes:

The people in the camp.

One option, you try and survive in your home with no running water, electricity and no food because the stores have been cleared out. Crime has broken out and eventually you will starve or possibly be killed.

Second option, the public are placed into the camps, where they are housed & fed and hopefully protected. Then when the grids come back on or whatever, you are sent back home.

This is all just hypothetical.

I REALLY don't think it's a good idea. There are TONS of American's out there who are preppers who, like me, have enough supplies for at least 6 months to a year. Why should we have to go to one of those camps, hypothetically speaking, of course. I mean, we'd be fine hold up at home.

Honestly, I can see the reasoning though, because many people are not preppers and will lack the supplies to hold up for a long time, so a camp would seem very practical, for some. But, I don't think people should be FORCED to go there, and they should be free to come and go as they please.

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If a pandemic struck which required hundreds of thousand of coffins... how would these hundreds of thousands of these coffins be distributed efficiently enough to keep up with demand?

.. they couldn't be. Earlier , i stumbled upon the state of Ohio's contingency plans for massive casualties... basically, the rules set up say that "Remains" have to be disposed of by burial or cremation within 24 hours.

I agree that if a pandemic struck that mass graves or cremation would be the best thing. Considering what we know about plagues and such over history, cremation would be the best and easiest.

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Like I said before, I could see the CDC having them ALL stored in Madison, Georgia, which is close to Atlanta, and that makes sense to store them there, in case of a pandemic. But, there are numerous site, and they ALL have, just hundreds of thousands of these coffins. There's just TOO MANY to be having some on stand-by. They are preparing for something. I REALLY hope I'm just being paranoid though. I don't want this to happen.

Keep in mind, these coffins can store up to FOUR bodies. Honestly, if the company that makes them, is associated with Halliburton, you have to wonder...

Oh, four bodies, i didn't see that part. It all makes sense now.. i can clearly see the advantage of being buried with three other people in a plastic box covered with dirt rather than being covered with dirt all by my lonesome. If all Hell broke loose the coffins probably wouldn't be hassled with. Time tested methods, like Pit disposal, or Fire, would most likely be 'implemented'.

It's just another money maker.

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I agree that if a pandemic struck that mass graves or cremation would be the best thing. Considering what we know about plagues and such over history, cremation would be the best and easiest.

I got to agree. I mean why not just cremate the bodies? Isn't it better and sanitary to do so? During a pandemic, so many people would be dying, that burying everyone would be impossible. Of course, then the question is what purpose are these coffins suppose to serve?

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They're getting ready for something, or somebody is making alot of money on a lucrative contract with FEMA to provide these things.

Or both.

Yup and my thoughts are " They are just waiting for the right moment... " maybe it has something to do with those radioactive storage zone that is leaking... forgot the name near Seattle... but hey could be anything.. my guess is as good as anyone elses.

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I got to agree. I mean why not just cremate the bodies? Isn't it better and sanitary to do so? During a pandemic, so many people would be dying, that burying everyone would be impossible. Of course, then the question is what purpose are these coffins suppose to serve?

It's impossible to know for certain. We have touched upon many possibilities here, but in the end some bureaucrat will make the decision whether to use them or not, assuming major catastrophe.

Surely somebody is making money off the bureaucratic mindset and process, as would be normal. So it could be simple incompetence on the part of the government, with a normal response from industry to accomodate government needs for a profit.

Exactly right Tesla.

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So you'd rather be unprepared?

You should always be prepared yourself. The goverment even warns people that they might not be able to help. Nobody should rely on the goverment.

The question I've always wondered. Just say for arguments sake, something happens and all the power grids in the world shut down, the public can't communicate with anyone a chaos starts to take hold. The military would have to step in and try and control as much as possible. Now if that actually happened, Could the public really be trusted?

We've all seen on the news when power goes out in a city and immediately a group of idiots start rioting, now imagine that on a global scale. It would probably be safer for everyone if the public was rounded up and put into these camps until everything was corrected.

What if they stage something for that reason though, then it's martial law being brought in with ease.

I'd rather be left to look after myself than herded like cattle to be honest. That's why I took up bushcraft and survival, really makes you fele more confident if something was to happen as i have no confidence in the goverment. lol

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I agree that if a pandemic struck that mass graves or cremation would be the best thing. Considering what we know about plagues and such over history, cremation would be the best and easiest.

But... That's not an argument that supports these coffins being for something nefarious...

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Debunked.

The lot was leased by the manufacturer simply to store the damned things. It has no connection to FEMA or the Federal Government at all.

Somebody should tell Alex Jones.

http://metabunk.org/...c-grave-liners)

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Debunked.

The lot was leased by the manufacturer simply to store the damned things. It has no connection to FEMA or the Federal Government at all.

Somebody should tell Alex Jones.

http://metabunk.org/...c-grave-liners)

Great link. Yes I heard Alex Jones on the Howard Stern show a few weeks ago still talking about them. Surely he has come by that info by now.

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You should always be prepared yourself. The goverment even warns people that they might not be able to help. Nobody should rely on the goverment.

What if they stage something for that reason though, then it's martial law being brought in with ease.

I'd rather be left to look after myself than herded like cattle to be honest. That's why I took up bushcraft and survival, really makes you fele more confident if something was to happen as i have no confidence in the goverment. lol

Yes if they were to plan something like that then it would make it easy for them, but I think that's unlikely IMO.

That's fine, to each his own. I was just saying hypothetically, I think the government might need some sort of camp to house the public if something major happened. A lot of people wouldn't be able to survive with no running water and electricity, especially in city and suburban areas. But I don't think they should force people into any sort of camp either, just a choice.

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Yes if they were to plan something like that then it would make it easy for them, but I think that's unlikely IMO.

That's fine, to each his own. I was just saying hypothetically, I think the government might need some sort of camp to house the public if something major happened. A lot of people wouldn't be able to survive with no running water and electricity, especially in city and suburban areas. But I don't think they should force people into any sort of camp either, just a choice.

Are you judging by your goverment though? I'm judging by the way the US goverment is heading.

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You should always be prepared yourself. The goverment even warns people that they might not be able to help. Nobody should rely on the goverment.

What a redundant statement.

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What a redundant statement.

How so? Give evidence of why please.

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Are you judging by your goverment though? I'm judging by the way the US goverment is heading.

Right, I guess I was thinking more about my own government.

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Great link. Yes I heard Alex Jones on the Howard Stern show a few weeks ago still talking about them. Surely he has come by that info by now.

Not to mention, if you look at the link, they stopped using that lot a couple of years ago.

And, frankly, if you really think about it, these things are probably the most unworkable things for mass burials - the mere fact that it would have to be turned upside down to work in the way the videos describe means that it would not be structurally viable (dirt is heavy you know).

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What a redundant statement.

Ive noticed you do nothing but attack posters without posting a rebuttal of any sorts. What gives. You butthurt about something or just feeling wronged ?

Thats exactly what the Govmnt of the uSA recommends and Coffey is correct.

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This is a good example of just how un-falsifiable conspiracy theories are. Lets say FEMA don't prepare for a disaster, and one happens. The conspiracy theorists would be queuing up to accuse FEMA of wanting people to die by not preparing enough.

Most conspiracy theories like this can never be proven wrong.

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Ive noticed you do nothing but attack posters without posting a rebuttal of any sorts. What gives. You butthurt about something or just feeling wronged ?

Thats exactly what the Govmnt of the uSA recommends and Coffey is correct.

i don't know, if I've read it right, "redundant" means unnecessary, and the "redundant" part was saying "you cannot rely on your Government", so just maybe he was agreeing and saying that it's so obvious that you can't rely on Governments that it's not necessary to say so?

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How so? Give evidence of why please.

I asked someone if they'd prefer to be unprepared, so you responsed with the blatant obvious.

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i don't know, if I've read it right, "redundant" means unnecessary, and the "redundant" part was saying "you cannot rely on your Government", so just maybe he was agreeing and saying that it's so obvious that you can't rely on Governments that it's not necessary to say so?

I did wonder that, so not sure how he meant it yet. That's why i asked him.

Right, I guess I was thinking more about my own government.

I don't really know much about the Australian Goverment. Guessing they ren't as bad as the US or UK goverment. lol

I asked someone if they'd prefer to be unprepared, so you responsed with the blatant obvious.

If it's that blatently obvious, why is there a discussion on it? lol Why do 80% of people or more rely on their goverment when the goverment even states they shouldn't when an emergency happens.

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If it's that blatently obvious, why is there a discussion on it? lol Why do 80% of people or more rely on their goverment when the goverment even states they shouldn't when an emergency happens.

What the hell are you on about? The discussion is about these "coffins". My question implied it is better to be prepared, you responsed with "You should always be prepared yourself", in other words redundant.

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I don't really know much about the Australian Goverment. Guessing they ren't as bad as the US or UK goverment. lol

I don't have any fears that our government would try anything sinister, just fears of incompetence since the Labor party took over haha.

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What the hell are you on about? The discussion is about these "coffins". My question implied it is better to be prepared, you responsed with "You should always be prepared yourself", in other words redundant.

I said "yourself".... Difference between the goverment being prepared....

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Um, when we had those wildfires out here where I live, the firefighters and cops, pretty much forced us out of our house, taking only a few things we could grab. We actually, were told if we need to get anything or feed or water our animals we had to call the cops and the firefighters to come out and they had to escort us out here. We were like, S*** that, it OUR house and land, OUR animals, and we can't let them starve! (We had our dogs with us, but we have cows, chickens, a horse, and cats) I know they (the cops and firefighters were mad at us about that, but I really didn't care. Neither did my in laws) Then they wouldn't let us home for more than a WEEK which is ****** ridiculous, and my mother in law, had a VERY long talk with the Sheriff about what was going on out here. The Sheriff was very angry that they hadn't let us go home yet, and he called the firefighters and told them we could come home. It was the LONGEST, WORST week of my life! It really was. My little boy, who is 2 now, was 10 months old at the time, and he wanted to go home. He wanted his bed, and his house. I'm sorry but, a government agency shouldn't be able to force people from their homes! I understand there was a danger from the fire, and fire is completely uncontrollable, but to keep us out a WEEK!! Just so some people could keep playing "Glory Boy"....Also, many of the firefighters had their FAMILIES out here while they were fighting the fires, yet we couldn't go home???

The whole thing was just a mess.

Oh I'm prepared. Enough food, water, and supplies, for at least a year! Lots of baked beans! :yes:

I REALLY don't think it's a good idea. There are TONS of American's out there who are preppers who, like me, have enough supplies for at least 6 months to a year. Why should we have to go to one of those camps, hypothetically speaking, of course. I mean, we'd be fine hold up at home.

Honestly, I can see the reasoning though, because many people are not preppers and will lack the supplies to hold up for a long time, so a camp would seem very practical, for some. But, I don't think people should be FORCED to go there, and they should be free to come and go as they please.

Being displaced from your home for a week was the worst thing that has happened to you in your life? To me, it sounds like you have prepped for a natural disaster very well from your post. That is great thinking ahead and shows that you are a person that looks to the future and not just someone who lives day to day. One thought that is going through my head is this. If you were so distraught from being displaced from your home for a week, how could you even think that you could handle a major disaster mentally? I understand that you are prepared physically to feed yourself, but we are talking about hundreds of thousands of dead all around us if these coffins are to ever be needed. I imagine during your displacement while the fire was happening that you were staying either with family, friends, or in a nice hotel somewhere during this ordeal. Despite that, you were still tortured from being without your home for a week. Imagine a scenario where you have to step over bodies, possibly that of your own family while trying to do a task that we would now take for granted and compare that with your other ordeal with the fire. Of course I do not know you so I can only assume to know something about you from your post. I might suggest that since you take survival and prepping seriously, that you go get some sort of tactical training. Not only tactical, but possibly find a sport or survival course that would push you to even more WORST weeks of your life.

Regarding the prison camps. I do see your point wanting to stay at your home when others would be relocating to a camp of some sort. No telling how the conditions in said camps would be. I can't help but think of the Super Dome in Louisiana and how women were being raped, people extorted and killed. It is just crazy. To think that soldiers would be able to police a camp like what would be expected is just ludicrous. Soldiers would be policing the outside, the fence, but I highly doubt that we would see soldiers interacting with what could turn in to a virtual prison camp. Look at other camps worldwide. I'm not sure the circumstances of these camps but I would imagine they have many problems with crime such as with what we had seen at the Super Dome. This isn't even bringing up the fact that the logistics would be handled by the army. A person going to said camp would be 100% reliant on the Army or whomever was guarding the camp to provide both food and water to all who are inside. If there is a problem with logistics potentially there could be tens of thousands that feel that effects of that immediately with no option to take another course of action. There would be a downside to being a "prepper". In the movie Law Abiding Citizen the warden tells the inmate something to the extent of "I wouldn't want to be the have, in a land of have not's." What he meant by this was that in the story an inmate blackmails a warden into bringing him a king mattress that was high end and luxurious into the jail to sleep on. All the other criminals were sleeping on the typical inmate kindergarten nap mat. As you can imagine that scenario instantly made him a target to any potential person that would want to take what he has. I'd say if there are a 1000 people and their families who are starving, you would have 950 criminals willing to come and take what you have.

Either way, we will all feel the effect in the event that the potential millions of coffins need to be suddenly filled. I really saddens me as I have a 2 year old boy, and another little boy on the way. What a crazy world it is that they are being brought into. They are being born into the generation where people are allowing themselves to be run over by big business and government. In addition to that, we have topics like this. So sad for our children. Good luck as always and god bless us all.

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