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Ancient monument in the Sea of Galilee

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It is a Pyramid!!!!

As per some UMers who got an affinity for naturally occuring carbonated water with lots and lots of pressure, it would naturally be built by Aliens and of course using carbonated Water!!

And of course, as per some UMers, since it is in Israel, it must have to be Aliens and Jesus is linked to it.

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Moses was buried on a mountain outside of Israel, The Torah says that no person can know.

Could it be Moses burial place?

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Moses was buried on a mountain outside of Israel, The Torah says that no person can know.

Could it be Moses burial place?

Maybe they gave him "concrete shoes" and tossed him into the Dead Sea? Hiding the place by dumping tons of rock on his body?

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Moses was buried on a mountain outside of Israel, The Torah says that no person can know.

Could it be Moses burial place?

Even if it could be shown that Moses was an actual person the area where this structure is located was already under water during his lifetime and had been for thousands of years.

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LOL What in the hell is that thing? An alien into S&M?

~snip.

Sorry Boss, standard issue attire of the excavation team, yours is in the trunk ...

okay boys ...

lets SUIT UP and MOVE out !!!!!!

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And of course, as per some UMers, since it is in Israel, it must have to be Aliens and Jesus is linked to it.

Yes, but the pertinent question is, was Jesus an early rabbi or...an Annunaki?

Sorry, different discussion. :w00t:

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One point against it's being a ballast dump: from the description, at least some of the stones are too big to be manhandled overboard unless they had some very strong sailors.

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I have no expertise in underwater archaeology, but PersonFromPorlock above makes sense when he refers to the size and weight of the stones detected as not being easily manhandled.This collection of rocks is bigger and taller than Stonehenge? That's big. It doesn't mean extraterrestrials, beings from another dimension or the Nephilim are responsible for this particular aquatic architecture (although, scientifically, those options cannot be ruled out). In reviewing the article and previous posts I didn't get a good grasp of how this was discovered (scuba divers? recreational? professional, looking for what?). Apparently it has rested, undetected, for a long time. The Holy Land is full of mysteries buried in histories, and this is yet another. It's fascinating to consider that Jesus may have sailed (or walked?!) right over this more than once in his career. Maybe he helped the Galilean fishermen dump some ballast. Wow. . . It will be interesting to assess the follow-up research.

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The other Ohalo sites 1and 2 under water are dated around 20,000 years ago, so why would they date this site found only to be around 5,000 years ago? The stones struture was most likey made by the hunters and gathers of those village sites.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohalo

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I think this is more than likely an unfinished project if it is not a monument or cairn, and if water levels were lower at the time when these stones were positioned I'm wondering whether some chieftain in the past didn't perhaps think a breakwater was a good idea for his little harbour. A brief look on Google shows that historically the winds on Galilee come out of the NW/WNW, and as such would create some fetch as they came down and round that western coast. Some protection for boats moored in that bay would have been a good idea. Looking at the topography it's the right place to start a project like that....... if this is the case who knows what it would have looked like it they'd finished it......

Anyway, just an idea.

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Most other articles that I read about it seem to agree with the cairn theory. We would have to assume that at some point this piece of land was not submerged then. I can't really see any ancient people build under water cairns....

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I have no expertise in underwater archaeology, but PersonFromPorlock above makes sense when he refers to the size and weight of the stones detected as not being easily manhandled.This collection of rocks is bigger and taller than Stonehenge? That's big. It doesn't mean extraterrestrials, beings from another dimension or the Nephilim are responsible for this particular aquatic architecture (although, scientifically, those options cannot be ruled out). I ..... ~snip

its becoming and looking more more a like an ancient ballast dump site to me.

The sea was shallower/water level lower then from what I read, to approach the shallow tide trading ports excess ballast stones were dumped.

"Close inspection by scuba diving revealed that the structure is made of basalt boulders up to 1 m (3.2 feet) long with no apparent construction pattern," the researchers write in their journal article. "The boulders have natural faces with no signs of cutting or chiselling. Similarly, we did not find any sign of arrangement or walls that delineate this structure."

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~bolded my handiwork

The mass of the entire site collectively is estimated to be bigger than Stonehenge, the individual stones are not .... there's just a lot of the stones piled up, not like they pile up a pyramid in giza or temples in south america ....

~edit : out of habit ///

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The under water archaeologist, if there are any as there is considerable risk to life and limb for such ventures, seem to have gone on a vacation. There are so many prospective underwater dig sites and sadly very little follow up can be seen. Probably Graham Hancock will dive there and we will get to know more from him,

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The under water archaeologist, if there are any as there is considerable risk to life and limb for such ventures, seem to have gone on a vacation. There are so many prospective underwater dig sites and sadly very little follow up can be seen. Probably Graham Hancock will dive there and we will get to know more from him,

I think he's getting too old and jaded for that kind of shenanigan ....

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I think he's getting too old and jaded for that kind of shenanigan ....

He has dived more then 500 times in various sites, often partially equipped and risked his life and limb multiple times. Hope atleast someone in the mainstream archaeological community will have this sort of enthusiasm.

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He has dived more then 500 times in various sites, often partially equipped and risked his life and limb multiple times. Hope atleast someone in the mainstream archaeological community will have this sort of enthusiasm.

I am aware of that and I do agree ... but I remember him seeing "martian' cultural connections since he started to explore the under sea sites.

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I don't think we need to go back to ice age when sea levels were lower to date monument, without further evidence i would say no earlier than 3000BC.

Firstly the Sea of Galilee is a lake, and throughout history water levels go up and down, and it is well below sea level anyway, like the dead sea!

The monument is near Tiberias that is approx. 17 miles from Jericho, a region that earthquakes are not unknown and it is thought that a great deal of Alexandria is now under the harbour because of an earthquake!

In 1927 there was an earthquake in that region to give an example:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1927_earthquake_in_Palestine

I have no wish to bring religion into this but archaeologists think that the walls of Jericho fell due to an earthquake, not by the hand of god!

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a011.html

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Hi Docyabut2,

I don't think that the cairn has any relationship to the Ohalo hunter-gatherer site of nearly 20,000 years ago, in England many churches have been built on top of ancient pagan sites, and the fish in the sea of Galilee would have been tempting for people from all ages.

I have yet to see a stone structure cairn that large that has a date earlier than approx. 3000BC.

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Hi Docyabut2,

I don't think that the cairn has any relationship to the Ohalo hunter-gatherer site of nearly 20,000 years ago, in England many churches have been built on top of ancient pagan sites, and the fish in the sea of Galilee would have been tempting for people from all ages.

I have yet to see a stone structure cairn that large that has a date earlier than approx. 3000BC.

If hunters and gathers could build something like Gobekli Tepe only 10,000 years ago, why not hunters and gathers building this sturture 20 ,000 years ago, possiable evolution of the pryamid.:)

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Hi Docyabut 2

I was talking about cairns, but take your point, however just because it is underwater we shouldn't assume that it is 20,000 years old, there is no evidence yet, and obviously water levels of a lake through history can change, and obviously earthquakes can change this.

There is an experiment that may give us some rough idea of age of monument, without difficult underwater excavations, hopefully that will be tried soon, by an X-Ray of the site to determine how far the foundation stones are in the sediment in the lake, then an expert in geology could take a core sample of sediment, it may be possible to determine age of site by that process without finding stuff to carbon date!

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Hi Docyabut 2

I was talking about cairns, but take your point, however just because it is underwater we shouldn't assume that it is 20,000 years old, there is no evidence yet, and obviously water levels of a lake through history can change, and obviously earthquakes can change this.

There is an experiment that may give us some rough idea of age of monument, without difficult underwater excavations, hopefully that will be tried soon, by an X-Ray of the site to determine how far the foundation stones are in the sediment in the lake, then an expert in geology could take a core sample of sediment, it may be possible to determine age of site by that process without finding stuff to carbon date!

This can only happen once the mainstream first acknowledges that it is manmde. There are many other such sites like Yonaguni,Dwarka etc that are dismissed as natural formations by the mainstreams without proper investigation.

Yonaguni is marked by huge slabs cut at right angles and still is dismissed as a natural formation, so i am dubious how the mainstream would treat a pile of rocks in the sea.

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This can only happen once the mainstream first acknowledges that it is manmde. There are many other such sites like Yonaguni,Dwarka etc that are dismissed as natural formations by the mainstreams without proper investigation.

Yonaguni is marked by huge slabs cut at right angles and still is dismissed as a natural formation, so i am dubious how the mainstream would treat a pile of rocks in the sea.

Yonaguni has been properly investigated.

The same Japanese professor who first claimed it was a structure dating from the end of the last ice age, now says it's not more than 2000 years old.

Then they found similar and natural structures on nearby land.

Last: Robert Schoch - the same one who thinks the Sphinx is thousands of years older than it is thought to be - also says the Yonaguni structure is a natural formation.

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Yonaguni has been properly investigated.

The same Japanese professor who first claimed it was a structure dating from the end of the last ice age, now says it's not more than 2000 years old.

Then they found similar and natural structures on nearby land.

Last: Robert Schoch - the same one who thinks the Sphinx is thousands of years older than it is thought to be - also says the Yonaguni structure is a natural formation.

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Take comments from the same people on this pile of rocks. Lets see what they come up with and how they later withdraw their opinions.

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Yonaguni has been properly investigated.

The same Japanese professor who first claimed it was a structure dating from the end of the last ice age, now says it's not more than 2000 years old.

Then they found similar and natural structures on nearby land.

Last: Robert Schoch - the same one who thinks the Sphinx is thousands of years older than it is thought to be - also says the Yonaguni structure is a natural formation.

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i don't think they are natural formations, i have not seen such clear 90 degree angles in any other underwater exploration videos.

If they claim that these are natural formations....please show any other place in the world where such natural formations have been found or observed.....mind you not around Yonaguni.

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