tapirmusic Posted April 15, 2013 #1 Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) “This isn’t about me wanting to take your kids, and this isn’t even about whether children are property. This is about whether we as a society, expressing our collective will through our public institutions, including our government, have a right to impinge on individual freedoms in order to advance a common good. And that is exactly the fight that we have been having for a couple hundred years.” These communists sure are getting bold lately, huh... Part 1 : http://www.unexplain...howtopic=246035 Edited April 15, 2013 by tapirmusic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetpumper Posted April 15, 2013 #2 Share Posted April 15, 2013 They should merge this with the other thread. And, re-title it so people are interested. No one knows who this tool is and they need to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohio traveler Posted April 15, 2013 #3 Share Posted April 15, 2013 “This isn’t about me wanting to take your kids, and this isn’t even about whether children are property. This is about whether we as a society, expressing our collective will through our public institutions, including our government, have a right to impinge on individual freedoms in order to advance a common good. And that is exactly the fight that we have been having for a couple hundred years.” 100% Commie talk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted April 15, 2013 #4 Share Posted April 15, 2013 “This isn’t about me wanting to take your kids, and this isn’t even about whether children are property. This is about whether we as a society, expressing our collective will through our public institutions, including our government, have a right to impinge on individual freedoms in order to advance a common good. And that is exactly the fight that we have been having for a couple hundred years.” What drugs is she on?? Seriously. Look I don't understand why she has to word things the way she does? You know? I mean it just reeks of socialism. You want to say we should work together for the good of our children, as a community. Okay, then just say that. Short blunt, to the point, no misunderstandings. A "collective" is: adjective 1. formed by collection. 2. forming a whole; combined: the collective assets of a corporation and its subsidiaries. 3. of or characteristic of a group of individuals taken together: the collective wishes of the membership. 4. organized according to the principles of collectivism: a collective farm. noun 5. collective noun. 6. a collective body; aggregate. 7. a business, farm, etc., jointly owned and operated by the members of a group. 8. a unit of organization or the organization in a collectivist system. That sure is a strange word to use... including our government, have a right to impinge on individual freedoms in order to advance a common good. And that is exactly the fight that we have been having for a couple hundred years. What fight is she talking about?? What fight have we been having for hundreds of years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNvRG Posted April 16, 2013 #5 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I'm starting to think these people suffer from mental illness. What right does she have to enforce what she feels is right for me? The only person who knows whats best for me is myself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted April 16, 2013 #6 Share Posted April 16, 2013 That sure is a strange word to use... Not to the Socialist. To them we are just parts of the collective, like the Borg. But what she doesn’t realize is that Americans are individuals in a community. Like I said before: “Kids grow up in a village; they are not raised by a village.” What fight is she talking about?? What fight have we been having for hundreds of years? It’s been the same fight that has been raging since our founding. But she is on the wrong side. If you understand Dark Energy (not the astronomy definition) then you know that DE as been trying to destroy this nation from the beginning. And Socialism has been the tool it has used in the last hundred years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted April 16, 2013 #7 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Not to the Socialist. To them we are just parts of the collective, like the Borg. But what she doesn't realize is that Americans are individuals in a community. Like I said before: "Kids grow up in a village; they are not raised by a village." It's been the same fight that has been raging since our founding. But she is on the wrong side. If you understand Dark Energy (not the astronomy definition) then you know that DE as been trying to destroy this nation from the beginning. And Socialism has been the tool it has used in the last hundred years. I've never heard of Dark Energy, as your referring to. But, I have to agree that we are all INDIVIDUALS who are part of a community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted April 16, 2013 #8 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I've never heard of Dark Energy, as your referring to. But, I have to agree that we are all INDIVIDUALS who are part of a community. The Dark Energy I am referring to is meta-physical or spiritual. You can think of it as pure evil but not necessarily in the sense of conventional Catholic thought. It’s more along the lines of Maximum Entropy with Innate Intelligence. It is just natural for the system to break down those things that are more highly developed but are also artificial in the system. This is probably getting beyond the scope of this thread but you could probably ask about DE in the religion forum and get many POVs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted April 16, 2013 #9 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Has anyone else ever read Brave New World? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted April 17, 2013 #10 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Has anyone else ever read Brave New World? It’s been a very long time since I read it, that I’m sure I get it confused with Bradbury, Roddenberry, and Lucas. But this Melissa would seem to fit in well in the programmed caste system of that world. The family unit just didn’t exist. And who could forget Soma! Soma! Soma! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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