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The sun is a stargate

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Ah I know, they're all fake bones arent they? All those specialists who work at the B-Museum are wrong too arent they, and all those PHd's earnt, All those Professors and top notch world class specialists at the same museum.... all that studying...all that training...down the chute

They are excellent in what they know. Terribly delinquent in what they don't.

Think on that.

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Guys...the sun isn't a stargate.

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http://www.nature.co...rdsong-16133266

Tsk. Didn't read the link again, did we?

Aptitude, and bad example: "while Leopold was a devoted teacher to his children, there is evidence that Mozart was keen to progress beyond what he was taught. His first ink-spattered composition and his precocious efforts with the violin were of his own initiative and came as a surprise to his father.[12"

Kid was playing perfectly at four and composing at five, You don't get that without a little something special inside.

Then there's Handel: http://en.wikipedia....del#Early_years

Give this a read too: https://www2.bc.edu/..._in_drawing.pdf

Not surprising. A reference to my prior comment as to the "utility" of artistic creativity.

They had to colate the idea from disparate sources one way or the other. We know statements made about the source material are highly questionable, and by extention the conclusion.

Mozart was possibly pre-coded to a degree due to parentage as were many others of the crop of great composers.

Just as he was born pre-coded to do other things, some of which were realised and some were not.

However someone had to teach him and he must have been willing to be taught.

That is light years from saying that humans are born composers, musicians and artists.

Supposing he had been adopted at birth and not exposed to the right people to help him liberate that genius? How many times do you think that has happened in the course of human history?

Genius lives in us all and it is there by virtue of our unique fingerprints.

It is by no means certain however that it will be liberated in all. It depends on the culture of the time, parentage, means, national circumstances, and probably much more.

So with animal put the word automatic.

With human put the words automatic, and self elected life.

Then if that self elected life attracts things to it that like it, then the life will be further enhanced. That is the mystery of charisma, great leadership, genius, and much more.

Not certain that this is on topic but it certainly is interesting Mr O.

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Mozart was possibly pre-coded to a degree due to parentage as were many others of the crop of great composers.

Just as he was born pre-coded to do other things, some of which were realised and some were not.

You mean to say he had a genetic predisposition toward music? Wow, tell me more!

However someone had to teach him and he must have been willing to be taught.

That is light years from saying that humans are born composers, musicians and artists.

Supposing he had been adopted at birth and not exposed to the right people to help him liberate that genius? How many times do you think that has happened in the course of human history?

Genius lives in us all and it is there by virtue of our unique fingerprints.

It is by no means certain however that it will be liberated in all. It depends on the culture of the time, parentage, means, national circumstances, and probably much more.

So with animal put the word automatic.

Still didn't read the article about the birds.

With human put the words automatic, and self elected life.

Then if that self elected life attracts things to it that like it, then the life will be further enhanced. That is the mystery of charisma, great leadership, genius, and much more.

Not certain that this is on topic but it certainly is interesting Mr O.

Would you agree though that we have an instinct for communication, and specific forms of communication, even though the finer points have to be learned? Would you further agree that we are wired for pattern recognition within this framework? Like, say, to spot and focus on specific regular patterns as significant?

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Would you agree though that we have an instinct for communication, and specific forms of communication, even though the finer points have to be learned? Would you further agree that we are wired for pattern recognition within this framework? Like, say, to spot and focus on specific regular patterns as significant?

Absolutely yes. Although I can't really see the value of this perception.

The value of it for me lies in the question 'communicate for what purpose'? To what end? Communicate for small talk, or some higher motive?

I'm conscious that the moderator's footsteps will be trundling down this dark corridor asking us politely to take our off topic conversation elsewhere.

Suggestions?

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Absolutely yes. Although I can't really see the value of this perception.

The value of it for me lies in the question 'communicate for what purpose'? To what end? Communicate for small talk, or some higher motive?

I'm conscious that the moderator's footsteps will be trundling down this dark corridor asking us politely to take our off topic conversation elsewhere.

Suggestions?

Don't look at me. I'm still on topic. To wit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

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You know "Z" me and Sweetpumper were sitting out on the fan tail of our three hundred foot Sloop in the bay of Bengal sippin on some fine mint jullips ,just the other day talking about the Sun and just how great it was for our solar system.We did have our Tin -Foil hats on and Sun block 3,000 K to try to hold off the early skin cancer that were all going to get in some form or the other.

And Your letter came to mind "Z" I said to Sweetpumper,"Sweet I call him that for short order talk you know , Anyway,Sweet I said ! If the Sun was a start gate and The Earth was just a average planet,and the Moon and other planets are all there just for mankind to quandary over then why do All the Ba-zillion Alien races that everyone thinks are out there never come to visit?

Well Sweet in his matter-a-fact way just threw back his drink ,stood up and Screamed at the top of his lungs ! "Kowa-bunga" jumped off the high-rail into the Bay of Bengal and floated back onto the surface sprouting a whale like spurt of water from his mouth. And started to laugh ! He said in the most eloquent way "It all boils down to the way a person wants to Believe hear,talk about anything." So I said back Your Bang on Sweet ! Lifes way too short to be worried about Little green Men,and Mad as the Hatters Nut cases,So This is how we should look at the Wolrd ! From a Yact ,sippin Mint Jullip`s ! Cheers!

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You know "Z" me and Sweetpumper were sitting out on the fan tail of our three hundred foot Sloop in the bay of Bengal sippin on some fine mint jullips ,just the other day talking about the Sun and just how great it was for our solar system.We did have our Tin -Foil hats on and Sun block 3,000 K to try to hold off the early skin cancer that were all going to get in some form or the other.

And Your letter came to mind "Z" I said to Sweetpumper,"Sweet I call him that for short order talk you know , Anyway,Sweet I said ! If the Sun was a start gate and The Earth was just a average planet,and the Moon and other planets are all there just for mankind to quandary over then why do All the Ba-zillion Alien races that everyone thinks are out there never come to visit?

Well Sweet in his matter-a-fact way just threw back his drink ,stood up and Screamed at the top of his lungs ! "Kowa-bunga" jumped off the high-rail into the Bay of Bengal and floated back onto the surface sprouting a whale like spurt of water from his mouth. And started to laugh ! He said in the most eloquent way "It all boils down to the way a person wants to Believe hear,talk about anything." So I said back Your Bang on Sweet ! Lifes way too short to be worried about Little green Men,and Mad as the Hatters Nut cases,So This is how we should look at the Wolrd ! From a Yact ,sippin Mint Jullip`s ! Cheers!

DON, when you're using your grill and smoker...use them outside!

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Man ITs All Good Outside ! LoL That's where all the alienz R !

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The birds respond to the sunlight at dawn. They don't learn it. They are pre-coded to respond that way.

Except it's been proven that whales teach each other new whale song.

Also, I've seen a murder of crows watching one crow eat a cane toad - either it was a dare or a spectator sport or ... they were being taught.

Which implies a degree of "self-autonomy" shall we say even in the kingdom of the beasts.

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Interesting thread (for the most part) and not completely ridiculous as a concept.

If I was Bat Man and I wanted to invite you to my secret lair, without revealing its location I could cleverly conceal it from view with relative ease, but what good would it do to extend you an invitation when you have no chance of finding the way?

So yes, I could hide the entrance where it is impossible to see. --Or, I could obscure your line of sight with a blindfold or by simply putting my hand over your eyes and then I might even lead you in to a place you can not visit on your own. Imagine that.... Being brought into a dark place while the brightest of lights was right in front of your eyes as you approached....

Who could conceive of such a place and a simple way of hiding in plain sight?

"I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me".

~ The Son ~

If he told you, would he have to then kill you?

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The joker got into Batman's cave, and trashed it though.

Now I'm not saying I AM Batman, but I will say, nobody has EVER seen me and Batman in the same room at the same time.

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Every day more and more people rejects Darwin theory. I guess smart people realized that we are more then apes. Im glad that my biology teacher point to us flaws of Darwin theory.

So you do not get it either huh?

You know, I just do not believe you about your teacher, I reckon you made that up. Either that, or he was trying to help you with a complete grasp, and you totally misunderstood everything he said. Either way, your statement only illustrates the ignorances that persists with regards to learning as a whole.

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Recent studies confirmed that Erectus was more like baboon.

This does illustrate that you indeed do not understand that which you deny. What you have misconstrued is behavioural patterns in social groups, the complex, multilevel societies are the comparison, not physical features.

You should read before you make such claims.

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Or it's totally unsupportable.

More missing pieces than a second hand jig-saw.

LOL, nothing of the sort, you just totally suck at Jigsaw puzzles!!

How come you cannot point at one? You asked me for the transitional species between Habilis and Erectus, so I posted examples of Homo ergaster, and pointed you at Homo erectus georgicus which was different from erectus to a point that it was considered a subspecies, and held features of Habilis. You cowardly retreated from the debate when you lost it, and now you think all that never happened when I completely squashed every single claim yo made by simply giving you the examples you claimed did not exist. They do, and here is even a picture of georgicus:

You can see the transitional features that you say do not exist in this example even:

georgicus-erectus.jpg

AND

An artist reconstruction from the skull considers georgicus to look most likely like this:

HomoGeorgicus.jpg

Again, your lies and misconceptions (which I suspect are deliberate) are answered, you are simply making crap up as you go along, and here is the proof.

Don't tell, me - you reject reality and substitute with your own imagination?

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There are a million unanswered questions on Darwinism. By analogy it's a one dimensional view of a 3 dimensional picture.

You do not understand at least a million points that describe Darwin's theories. And the terminology usage displayed by yourself on this site indicates that the problem lies deeper than simply being able to read that which Darwin wrote.

Which is not the same thing.

But you have never been great with pictures, testimony has always been your preference, or the cherry picked snippets that you personally approve for forum posting anyway.

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I thought this thread was titled "the sun is a stargate"?

Zoser derailing again with Darwin, a topic that should be discussed under palaeontology as it has nothing to do with the ET section nor even the OP, and if zoser or anyone else queries Darwins findings, well he did live over 200 years ago, you can say thats roughly the beginning of science, he had no-one to advise him, no reference books to help him along, and all the time he was being criticised...things like this hadnt happened yet:

"The spectacular fossilised skull of an ancient human ancestor that died nearly two million years ago in central Asia has forced scientists to rethink the story of early human evolution"

http://www.unexplain...howtopic=256382

Now can we keep the topic on-track - or will you take your Darwinism problems to the above linked thread or other appropriate threads. Thankyou

He lost the debate concerning this subject in the other thread - and sorely, so he is trying to pretend it never existed, and is hoping to get it up and running again to see if he can stretch it a bit this time. The information he stated does not exist has been provided to him, he just wants some attention.

He wanted to know what happened between Erectus and Habilis, I said simple, Ergaster. As a rebuttal, he just repeated himself.

And he never stated whether Habilis was actually Homo or Australopithecine. He does not know what the heck he is talking about, he just lets his brain vomit straight onto his keyboard.

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The truth lies in the third vector. Darwinism and Creationism are both are one sided views of a 3D picture.

I would say you forgot to put the 3D glasses on.

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Nice upload CK.

The sun has always been implicated in esoteric folklore as being the next level up creation than the planet. Of a higher order or virtue. The ancients always associated their God's with the sun for example.

And Hell has always been depicted as being in the middle of the earth, and is run by a Red dude with a cheesy grin, horns, a tail and a pitchfork. How do you reckon that is going to pan out?

Even Jules Verne thought that was a bit much, and made up a whole new ideal.

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It may not be artificial. It's a theory nothing more.

It's not even that.

It's fiction.

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Im sending in "Hugin& Munin" to take care of THe "Z" man ! There my top secret predators ! :tu:

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Im sending in "Hugin& Munin" to take care of THe "Z" man ! There my top secret predators ! :tu:

It will take more than that Don. The 'Z' man is not easily defeated. Wait till you see my laser canons and my BFG5000.

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OK, if we're going to play this game, art and music are both forms of communication, which has survival value.

Zoser, didnt I say that survival can explain all? As any other religion.

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It will take more than that Don. The 'Z' man is not easily defeated. Wait till you see my laser canons and my BFG5000.

I'm not sure how many old school gamers are here but I feel compelled to correct you. It's a BFG 9000.

<ResetNerdParm 0.0>

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I'm not sure how many old school gamers are here but I feel compelled to correct you. It's a BFG 9000.

<ResetNerdParm 0.0>

That's the one.

Just fished out the old time gamers :clap:

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Zoser, didnt I say that survival can explain all? As any other religion.

You've lost me a little there Vola. Expand your thinking please?

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