krillen Posted April 29, 2013 #1 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Many of the freedoms we enjoy here in the U.S. are quickly eroding as the nation transforms from the land of the free into the land of the enslaved, but what I’m about to share with you takes the assault on our freedoms to a whole new level. You may not be aware of this, but many Western states, including Utah, Washington and Colorado, have long outlawed individuals from collecting rainwater on their own properties because, according to officials, that rain belongs to someone else. More details: Collecting Rainwater Now Illegal in Many States (Video) What a nightmare. Couldn't believe this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashotep Posted April 29, 2013 #2 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Some of the laws that get passed are ridiculous and they keep coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+HerNibs Posted April 29, 2013 #3 Share Posted April 29, 2013 It's been illegal here in Colorado for a long time. Permits can be obtained. Nibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever Learning Posted April 29, 2013 #4 Share Posted April 29, 2013 is it to stop people doing it with out knowing the dangers, how much is a permit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmoonlady Posted April 29, 2013 #5 Share Posted April 29, 2013 A man in our town is serving jail because he collected water on his own property.. Here in Medford Oregon I guess if you collect water you're an enemy of the state. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+HerNibs Posted April 29, 2013 #6 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Not sure why and I think it's about $100 just to file. No idea if there are additional annual fees. Probably. Nibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted April 29, 2013 #7 Share Posted April 29, 2013 is it to stop people doing it with out knowing the dangers, what dangers?? ppl have been doing it for thousands of years, we have not noticed any dangers. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickian Posted April 29, 2013 #8 Share Posted April 29, 2013 It's one of those laws designed to prevent a problem from starting. Lets say the entire population of the U.S. got involved in a new trend to collect large amount of rainwater on every single piece of property(including farms, companies that wanted to sell bottled rainwater and other large pieces of land), that could have a very big impact on the environment if that much water never reached the ground. Do any of these state laws have a limit on how much a private citizen can gather(per gallon), or are they complete bans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+HerNibs Posted April 29, 2013 #9 Share Posted April 29, 2013 (edited) It's one of those laws designed to prevent a problem from starting. Lets say the entire population of the U.S. got involved in a new trend to collect large amount of rainwater on every single piece of property(including farms, companies that wanted to sell bottled rainwater and other large pieces of land), that could have a very big impact on the environment if that much water never reached the ground. Do any of these state laws have a limit on how much a private citizen can gather(per gallon), or are they complete bans? Here it is a complete ban unless you have the permit. I guess I understand the reasoning. We are ALWAYS under water restrictions in the summer. Nibs I think the permits are only issued to those on well water. Not positive. I don't know a ton about the laws, we are on city water. Nibs (again) Edited April 29, 2013 by HerNibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoIverine Posted April 29, 2013 #10 Share Posted April 29, 2013 (edited) I hope those who are collecting it...run it through decent filtering systems. Last I had read, rain water contains moderate levels of bacteria and man made polutants. Edited April 29, 2013 by WoIverine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Amerika Posted April 29, 2013 #11 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Dumbest law ever! What do they think people are doing with the water? And to say it never reaches the ground and will cause problems if everyone did it is nuts too. I collect rain water and use it to water my garden and flowers around the house, its all reaching the ground just in a directed manner that serves nature better. What kind of crazy world are we living in? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted April 29, 2013 #12 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Isn't this to help farmers because I heard there was a water shortage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted April 29, 2013 #13 Share Posted April 29, 2013 This is so stupid! Why do you need a permit to collect rainwater on your own property?! Just asinine... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetpumper Posted April 29, 2013 #14 Share Posted April 29, 2013 This is so stupid! Why do you need a permit to collect rainwater on your own property?! Just asinine... Just one more way to get into your pockets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted April 29, 2013 #15 Share Posted April 29, 2013 A man in our town is serving jail because he collected water on his own property.. Here in Medford Oregon I guess if you collect water you're an enemy of the state. Why was he collecting rain water? how much? how long? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted April 29, 2013 #16 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Why was he collecting rain water? how much? how long? It's his property. Does he really need a reason? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted April 29, 2013 #17 Share Posted April 29, 2013 This is a joke ........ right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackofalltrades Posted April 29, 2013 #18 Share Posted April 29, 2013 You may not be aware of this, but many Western states, including Utah, Washington and Colorado, have long outlawed individuals from collecting rainwater on their own properties because, according to officials, that rain belongs to someone else. It is the Bolded underlined bit, that I cannot see how they work out who own's it, how can ANYONE own something that is natural Seem's to me (and I may be far off) that it is not the actual rainwater they are trying to control, but the actual water supply itself, if You are not allowed to collect rain water, then You have to go to some company to buy water Four dollars for a gallon of gas is ridiculous enough, but $4 for a gallon of water could someday became a reality, that is if oil tycoons like T. Boone Pickens and water bottling companies have their way. Privatization of water in which companies control the public's water sources and free water is a thing of the past appears to be what Pickens and corporations such as Monsanto, Royal Dutch Shell, and Nestle are banking on to increase their vast fortunes. Quote from this site http://Four dollars for a gallon of gas is ridiculous enough, but $4 for a gallon of water could someday became a reality, that is if oil tycoons like T. Boone Pickens and water bottling companies have their way. Privatization of water in which companies control the public's water sources and free water is a thing of the past appears to be what Pickens and corporations such as Monsanto, Royal Dutch Shell, and Nestle are banking on to increase their vast fortunes. Just one of many sites I have seen this or similiar stated on it . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leah G. Posted April 29, 2013 #19 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Where do they think the water we drink everyday comes from??? Rain!!! Even lake water is from rain so if the rain is so polluted, so are we. Actually more like diluted... granted, rain off your roof might not be the best idea but it's safe to water your garden with.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetpumper Posted April 29, 2013 #20 Share Posted April 29, 2013 according to officials, that rain belongs to someone else. "You didn't rain that!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud the mackem Posted April 29, 2013 #21 Share Posted April 29, 2013 It's one of those laws designed to prevent a problem from starting. Lets say the entire population of the U.S. got involved in a new trend to collect large amount of rainwater on every single piece of property(including farms, companies that wanted to sell bottled rainwater and other large pieces of land), that could have a very big impact on the environment if that much water never reached the ground. Do any of these state laws have a limit on how much a private citizen can gather(per gallon), or are they complete bans? Hey Buddy,are you having a laugh ?...Any saved water will reach the ground through plants,humans,or animals eventually,unless you're gonna save it and turn it all into steam. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted April 29, 2013 #22 Share Posted April 29, 2013 So, rainwater, in certain climate districts, provide a substantial, sometimes the ONLY, contribution to the sub-surface water needed for eventual use even many miles away. OK, I guess that makes SOME sense. I don't know, I'm a little confused. I hope that certified geologists or whatever are an integral part in the debate of the restrictions for a particular district. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keel M. Posted April 29, 2013 #23 Share Posted April 29, 2013 (edited) I don't see this becoming a wide spread issue. Around Santa Fe, NM all new housing built is required to have a catch basin. And Texas provides a sales tax exemption for those buying a system to capture rainwater. Oklahoma also has a program for water saving techniques and Ohio also allows people to capture rainwater for potable use. So your "many" states amounts to three so far. Edited April 29, 2013 by Kasey2601 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashotep Posted April 29, 2013 #24 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Do you ever get the feeling this is just another way to control what you do and has no other useful purpose. I can't believe that many people collect so much rainwater it needs to be regulated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever Learning Posted April 29, 2013 #25 Share Posted April 29, 2013 what dangers?? ppl have been doing it for thousands of years, we have not noticed any dangers. i assume uncovered rain water collection can make you ill and urban living has made the populace ignorant of that which is common sense to people who dont get theirs readily out of the tap. its best to drink running water from a spring or secondly a river and boiling water before using kills germs. common sense to those who were taught, im sure a permit insures they have been taught and that they wont ignorantly supply masses of water to the unknowing. you can also use limestone to purify water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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