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New [maybe Last] Clark McClelland interview

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for Clark McClelland's newest stories, as well as his serious physical suffering -- just posted, had been taped on April 15.

Some people around here seem to argue that McClelland is a reliable insider whistle-blower about NASA UFOs.

Maybe not so much -- listen to this tape.

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Vague and somewhat rambling at times,seems to me like the obsessive rantings of bitter and twisted old man.Couldn`t even describe the alleged 9 ft alien he supposedly saw in the shuttle cargo bay.Kind of sad really for an ex Nasa employee to end up in this way.

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....Kind of sad really for an ex Nasa employee to end up in this way.

Sad for anyone to end up this way. But McClelland never worked directly for NASA, he had a series of subcontrator technical jobs for military missile programs over the years, and some NASA projects, too [mostly pad construction]. The rest of his claims about top-level friends whispering UFO secrets to him, are probably imaginary from the start. His best chance, in 1992, was getting a contractor slot working in shuttle processing [the photo he shows has him with a 'visitor' badge on]. But apparently he blew that with unverifiable claims on his job application and security background check data. Truly sad.

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I'm only about 20 minutes in, but listening to the man speak is chilling. It's frightening to think how a person's mind can go so tragically wrong.

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Okay, I just finished hearing it all and I have to say that I found it disturbing. I don't know if it's because of the pain he's dealing with, or if he's always been that way, but the man is filled with hatred towards just about everything and everyone. It's also apparent that he believes in what he says. This is sad indeed.

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Sad for anyone to end up this way. But McClelland never worked directly for NASA, he had a series of subcontrator technical jobs for military missile programs over the years, and some NASA projects, too [mostly pad construction]. The rest of his claims about top-level friends whispering UFO secrets to him, are probably imaginary from the start. His best chance, in 1992, was getting a contractor slot working in shuttle processing [the photo he shows has him with a 'visitor' badge on]. But apparently he blew that with unverifiable claims on his job application and security background check data. Truly sad.

hello Jim,

do you have any further detail on the bolded part?

thanks

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Sad for anyone to end up this way. But McClelland never worked directly for NASA, he had a series of subcontrator technical jobs for military missile programs over the years, and some NASA projects, too [mostly pad construction]. The rest of his claims about top-level friends whispering UFO secrets to him, are probably imaginary from the start. His best chance, in 1992, was getting a contractor slot working in shuttle processing [the photo he shows has him with a 'visitor' badge on]. But apparently he blew that with unverifiable claims on his job application and security background check data. Truly sad.

Ok,didn't realise that.He seems to have a very big Axe to grind with the Establishment,just my take on the stuff he says.

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hello Jim,

do you have any further detail on the bolded part?

thanks

I followed up on this story and got info the other guys didn't want to say on the record.

UFO Folklore Center Ex-NASA Worker Says Space Agency Knows About UFOs

By: Michael Lindemann

From CNI News: July 1999

http://www.oocities.com/marksrealm/coverup037.html

...

It may have been a problem with a security clearance, in fact, that eventually caused McClelland's falling out with NASA.

By 1990, he worked directly for the space agency in the shuttle program.

He was then training to become a Spacecraft Operator (ScO), meaning he would have hands-on responsibility for space shuttle maintenance and ground operations. His trainer was shuttle ScO senior specialist Dennis Bestwick.

"I'm not at liberty to say a lot" about McClelland's dismissal, Bestwick told CNI News. "His work was fine, but something in his security check didn't quite check out. Nothing illegal, but something about the dates didn't match. You need a secret clearance," he said. It could have been as simple as a clerical error in McClelland's records, Bestwick conceded.

But whatever it was, McClelland lost his clearance and was subsequently dismissed from the shuttle program.

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I followed up on this story and got info the other guys didn't want to say on the record.

UFO Folklore Center Ex-NASA Worker Says Space Agency Knows About UFOs

By: Michael Lindemann

From CNI News: July 1999

http://www.oocities....coverup037.html

It may have been a problem with a security clearance, in fact, that eventually caused McClelland's falling out with NASA.

By 1990, he worked directly for the space agency in the shuttle program.

He was then training to become a Spacecraft Operator (ScO), meaning he would have hands-on responsibility for space shuttle maintenance and ground operations. His trainer was shuttle ScO senior specialist Dennis Bestwick.

"I'm not at liberty to say a lot" about McClelland's dismissal, Bestwick told CNI News. "His work was fine, but something in his security check didn't quite check out. Nothing illegal, but something about the dates didn't match. You need a secret clearance," he said. It could have been as simple as a clerical error in McClelland's records, Bestwick conceded.

But whatever it was, McClelland lost his clearance and was subsequently dismissed from the shuttle program.

ok thanks Jim.

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Ok,didn't realise that.He seems to have a very big Axe to grind with the Establishment,just my take on the stuff he says.

A big ax, indeed. And a big ego unconstrained by reality.

Claims he was 'Technical Assistent to the Apollo Program Manager'. Recall he didn't even have a college degree at that point.

"I was an Office of Naval Intelligence officer at Cape Canaveral" -- no record he ever was in the US Navy, much less an officer, much less associated with ONI.

"I was with NASA from 1958 to 1992". So what does the word 'with' mean? He never was a NASA employee, but a lot of his contractor employment did work on NASA-funded projects.

Astronauts: "They told me what they saw out there." No records he ever knew any of the astronauts he lists as "close friends".

"No one will publish my book on the planet Earth."

"I'm in poverty, been that way for 21 years."

"The Earth is a living cosmic life form."

"Cchallenger was sabotaged -- a shaped charge was inserted inside one of the Solid rocket boosters" by "eighteen Libyan spies" hired to work at the Cape.

"Apollo-1 was also sabotaged -- people entered and placed charges inside the cabin to blow it up."

"There were two attempts to kill me already, they fumbled. I carry a 38 and a 45, they are very heavy."

[26:00' The Germans were evil Nazis.

"The germans were good friends of mine, I went to Kecksburg with a German scientist. It was a Soviet Venus failure"

The probe was a working Nazi-designed 'glock' time machine that NASA needed to copy for its own space designs.

"The New World Order" [Jews] have already stolen the US stolen design. They "have already flown to Mars and back, they have a base on the back side of the Moon. They have flown to Saturn too."

"JFK visited the cape six days before being shot, he came to my pad, I met him and he gave me a secret gift, a presidential patch. I warned him about assassins in Dallas. Oswalkd was a patsy, a Ruby was a Zionist Jew, it all falls into place."

"I'm 77 years old, I'm very sick, it is horrible pain. The Percussit they give me isn't worth dog s--t."

"This nation is already dead. The sheeple live in a nation of total morons."

"Lucifer owns this planet -- with his black army of Zionist angels, to destroy our race on Earth."

Relates story of when he was in the Navy, in the Philadelphia Navy Yard, and an admiral declined to court martial him for trying to warn the world.

"The media worldwide is owned by Zionist Jews!'" But he is not prejudiced, he once had a Jewish friend named Bernie, and he cried when Bernie died.

"I met Ike at the Pershing [missile] pad [in 1960]. he put his arm around my shoulder, walked with me to the pad, and told me top, top secrets about the missile. But he still was under the command of the "DSSG" -- the "Dictatorial Secret Shadow Government" and the zionist owned and controlled pharmaceutical companies.

"I'm the only one who realizes the truth! They are all idiots!!"

53:30

"I saw the aliens in the space shuttle payload bay. It was waving its hands like ordering the astronauts. I saw it for a minute and seven seconds, then they shut off the TV because they knew I was seeing it." It was 8-9 ft tall, "Thaty's a Nefelim, they still control the planet earth for Lucifer."

57:00

"They're trying to say I never served in the Navy, they even say I never served in NASA!"

"I'm a chief in the Sioux-Lakota tribe, an honorary chief..."

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Great words to live by Jim,The Truth. Funny thing is that Guy did need help. Keep them comming !

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I followed up on this story and got info the other guys didn't want to say on the record.

UFO Folklore Center Ex-NASA Worker Says Space Agency Knows About UFOs

By: Michael Lindemann

From CNI News: July 1999

http://www.oocities....coverup037.html

...

It may have been a problem with a security clearance, in fact, that eventually caused McClelland's falling out with NASA.

By 1990, he worked directly for the space agency in the shuttle program.

He was then training to become a Spacecraft Operator (ScO), meaning he would have hands-on responsibility for space shuttle maintenance and ground operations. His trainer was shuttle ScO senior specialist Dennis Bestwick.

"I'm not at liberty to say a lot" about McClelland's dismissal, Bestwick told CNI News. "His work was fine, but something in his security check didn't quite check out. Nothing illegal, but something about the dates didn't match. You need a secret clearance," he said. It could have been as simple as a clerical error in McClelland's records, Bestwick conceded.

But whatever it was, McClelland lost his clearance and was subsequently dismissed from the shuttle program.

So he did work directly for NASA at some point? But regardless of whether he was an employee of NASA or an employee of the subcontractor, he did do works for NASA and was there "in the room", or did have access to NASA facility rather than working in a building outside of NASA facilities?

This is also from the link above: Kollosch remembers that Clark McClelland was outgoing and well-liked. "Everybody knew him. He even got to know the Mercury astronauts when we were working on Pershing [missile program]. When he was with Boeing, ... he was in with the Apollo astronauts... I don't know of anyone who didn't like him," Kollosch told CNI News.

So he does have access to the astronauts as he claimed, then?

Yes the guy does sound crazy, but I guess a lot of people would go crazy when nobody believe you. I guess he wasn't always this insane is my point.

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Yes the guy does sound crazy, but I guess a lot of people would go crazy when nobody believe you. I guess he wasn't always this insane is my point.

A lot of people also go crazy when their lives talk several bad turns as his seems to have. I agree he was probably "with NASA" at some point, and probably a very likeable, normal guy..

As for the rest of it, it's far more likely he has unfulfilled dreams of a high level top-secret career with NASA where he had important jobs and went drinking with his best buddy astronauts after work. He's probably shifting the blame of losing his contractor positions with NASA, his wife leaving and having no money to the vast conspiracy against him (gov't, NASA, Jews, 8ft tall aliens, Lucifer etc), and filling in the rest of the story with the delusions of grandeur that built up in his bitter mind over the years.

BTW sorry for the late reply, I just heard this interview streaming online last night and had to look for more info on this character.

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