World's Biggest Ice Sheets Likely More Stable

[Merc14]

World's Biggest Ice Sheets Likely More Stable Than Previously Believed

http://www.scienceda...30516142551.htm

May 16, 2013 — For decades, scientists have used ancient shorelines to predict the stability of today's largest ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica. Markings of a high shoreline from three million years ago, for example -- when Earth was going through a warm period -- were thought to be evidence of a high sea level due to ice sheet collapse at that time. This assumption has led many scientists to think that if the world's largest ice sheets collapsed in the past, then they may do just the same in our modern, progressively warming world. However, a new groundbreaking study now challenges this thinking.

Using the east coast of the United States as their laboratory, a research team led by David Rowley, CIFAR Senior Fellow and professor at the University of Chicago, has found that Earth's hot mantle pushed up segments of ancient shorelines over millions of years, making them appear higher now than they originally were millions of years ago.

more here: http://www.scienceda...30516142551.htm

Needless to say the usual suspects will be quite upset and immediately attack the author's reputation, call the data useless and meaningless and dismiss all the idiots. If, however, you aren't making money from global warming and are just worried about climate shifts and the effect on your shoreline property, this is a bit of good news. This kind of takes some of the sting out of this http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090108101629.htm

Edited May 20, 2013 by Merc14

[SHaYap]

World's Melting Glaciers Making Large Contribution to Sea Rise

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130516142547.htm

May 16, 2013 — While 99 percent of Earth's land ice is locked up in the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets, the remaining ice in the world's glaciers contributed just as much to sea rise as the two ice sheets combined from 2003 to 2009, says a new study led by Clark University and involving the University Colorado Boulder.

The new research found that all glacial regions lost mass from 2003 to 2009, with the biggest ice losses occurring in Arctic Canada, Alaska, coastal Greenland, the southern Andes and the Himalayas. The glaciers outside of the Greenland and Antarctic sheets lost an average of roughly 260 billion metric tons of ice annually during the study period, causing the oceans to rise 0.03 inches, or about 0.7 millimeters per year.

Can't make up their minds or laboratory tit for tat .... ?

Anything you can measure I can measure better than you ?

I am going with this set of the numbers though ... I see it all along the East Coast of Malaysia ...

and soon the UN will have one empty seat surrendered to the rising seas :

http://data.un.org/CountryProfile.aspx?crName=MALDIVES

10/17/09 1:30pm

Maldives Government Meets Underwater to Show Effects of Global Warming

The Maldives, a stretch of islands off the coast of Sri Lanka, are so close to sea level that global warming poses a serious threat. So the government held a cabinet meeting underwater to bring attention to the problem.

Most of the Maldives lie less than three feet above sea level, which puts them much more at risk if global sea levels keep rising. Some scientists have warned that the islands could even be uninhabitable within 100 years (provided a rise of 7-24 inches), and the Maldives government has been vocal in the campaign to battle rising sea levels.

[Merc14]

Thanks for making my point

[SHaYap]

Thanks for making my point

~most welcome

[Doug1029]

Needless to say the usual suspects will be quite upset and immediately attack the author's reputation, call the data useless and meaningless and dismiss all the idiots. If, however, you aren't making money from global warming and are just worried about climate shifts and the effect on your shoreline property, this is a bit of good news. This kind of takes some of the sting out of this http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090108101629.htm

Sounds to me more like a nuance to the warming phenomenon rather than any reason to dismiss the entire concept.

There's no doubt that the earth is getting warmer and little doubt as to the cause: humanity.

The deniers counter-arguments boil down to two remotely possible ones. 1. It's the sun. 2. It's volcanos. Ideas like Mrs. O'Leary left her oven on in 1943 and it's still running just don't seem very convincing.

Doug