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Will NASA asteroid mission be cancelled ?

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I don't perceive moon mining because of the cost of getting the stuff back to the earth. When self-sustaining colonies are on the moon, then of course mining will happen to help maintain them rather than transporting everything from the earth.

The cost from moon to earth would be about one sixth of from earth to moon. They could launch from the moon and use chutes to land on earth. But, your correct we need an engine that doesn't need to be refueled every trip.

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A bit of a "know-nothing" attitude (glib and ignorant).

Well instead of being rude and insulting me. Why don't you explain why the asteroid is more important. I said I can't see it. Don't be a troll and explain it to me insead of throwing a barb that explains nothing. Don't you be glib and ignorant. At least I admitted I didn't understand.

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Well instead of being rude and insulting me. Why don't you explain why the asteroid is more important. I said I can't see it. Don't be a troll and explain it to me insead of throwing a barb that explains nothing. Don't you be glib and ignorant. At least I admitted I didn't understand.

I'm not a troll, and what you said was glib and ignorant, and I don't appreciate your taking what I said out of context. When someone refers to an asteroid as nothing more than a big rock, that is glib and ignorant.

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A floating rock is a metaphor. You still haven't explained yourself. I took nothing out of context, you were rude Frank as I know many things with impressive pieces of paper to prove it. None of them in the fields of science however . I genuinely want to know why landing once on an asteroid is more scientifically important than a moon base. In my uneducated opinion it's a rock because we know what they are made of and therefore have little to learn from them. A moon base seems to me to be more beneficial to getting off this planet.

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The original implication of what you said was a [useless] rock. Now you have backed up and removed the implication, I guess to give you an excuse to get on a high horse. If you think that my response to your thoughtless post was rude, you need a thicker skin

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I still think it's useless as I am yet to be convinced otherwise. You keep making it personal on me yet you fail to give me an answer despite repeated requests. Put up or shut up.

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I'm not a troll, and what you said was glib and ignorant, and I don't appreciate your taking what I said out of context. When someone refers to an asteroid as nothing more than a big rock, that is glib and ignorant.

An asteriod is just a big rock. Earth is just a big rock. Jupiter and saturn are just a bunch of hot gas. Uranis and neptune are just a mixture of them both.

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I still think it's useless as I am yet to be convinced otherwise. You keep making it personal on me yet you fail to give me an answer despite repeated requests. Put up or shut up.

I see no reason a moon base is less important than the astriod research is, unless they are testing a new rocket or sensor. Something along those lines.

Once in space, a ship can use an ion engine which doesn't need to be refueled. I read that nasa is going to test a solar sail.

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I see no reason a moon base is less important than the astriod research is, unless they are testing a new rocket or sensor. Something along those lines.

Once in space, a ship can use an ion engine which doesn't need to be refueled. I read that nasa is going to test a solar sail.

A moon base is important but corporations are looking to build it. Let them. Get off the idea that government should do everything, it is ridiculous and unrealistic and heas led to America nit having a manned flight program.

Government doesn't do anything right, ever. They dole out the money and industry builds it What government can do well is explore unprofitable enterprises that may lead to great value in the future. Let business exploit the moon as we have already been there and done that. We broke the ground and made the impossible, possible, now let industry take over.

Make NASA do what needs to be done to drive things in the future and exploiting exotic rocks floating in space for the last 10 billion years is exceedingly exciting in my book. We have no idea what these things hold and precious metals may be at the bottom of the pile. The secret to life may be floating around on those rocks you so easily dismiss.

Lastly, if you demand that government agencies lead you ask for failure. Government breaks the ice and industry makes a product. The internet was a small project designed to connect labs, that was turned over to the private sector for public use. The rest is history and it would never have happened if the government was in charge. Break your paradigms and realize that government is highly inefficient and destructive at best. As proof see any socialist country.

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Thank you for your answers Merc14. I was under the impression that there were just a few type of asteroids and we knew them all, metallic, carbonaceous etc (Yes I cheated and used used Google for the carbonaceous answer).

I accept that I too easily dismissed it and I appreciate the clarification. I hereby apologise to everyone for calling them floating rocks.

I truly hope that private industry gets more involved in the future as NASA can only do what the Washington Bean counters let them. Countries like mine (Australia) are happy to let NASA go into space and do much of the research for them with token financial and infrastructure contributions.

I think with more wealthy and forward thinking risk takers like Elon Musk coming aboard and taking the risks governments won't, it should be an exiting future!

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Break your paradigms and realize that government is highly inefficient and destructive at best. As proof see any socialist country.

I was fully with you until the very end (quoted above). Government can be very constructive and very efficient. There is nothing inherent in either state or private enterprise that makes one better than the other for all things. The world is evolving toward mixed economies, neither socialist nor capitalist -- and that is happening in both types as they move toward each other.

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I was fully with you until the very end (quoted above). Government can be very constructive and very efficient. There is nothing inherent in either state or private enterprise that makes one better than the other for all things. The world is evolving toward mixed economies, neither socialist nor capitalist -- and that is happening in both types as they move toward each other.

WE have no manned ship capability at NASA. 'nuff said.

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I agree with you. If it had been a private enterprise they would have had the next ship type ready before shutting down the shuttle. But, I have often said any company that is totally backed by the government it will fail. Like the west indies trading company. I know their still around but today they share a small building in london. Monopolies are also doomed to fail. Because they stop inovating, and the customer gets lost.

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