libstaK Posted June 24, 2013 #26 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) He may not have been under investigation but he seems to have believed he was in some danger according to this version http://news.ninemsn....rs-before-death Michael Hastings, 33, best known for his work with Rolling Stone magazine and BuzzFeed, sent the email at 12.56pm on Monday, June 17, KTLA reports. "Hey (redacted) the Feds are interviewing my 'close friends and associates'," the email read. and this The multi-award-winning journalist also said he was "onto a big story" and needed to "go off the radar for a bit." Edited June 24, 2013 by libstaK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian hacktorp Posted June 24, 2013 #27 Share Posted June 24, 2013 or the accelerator was stuck and brakes didnt work accelerator stuck wfo and antilock brakes pulsing wildly...either a lousy MB (sure), or on-board systems hacked: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/10/business/10hack.html?_r=0 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted June 24, 2013 Author #28 Share Posted June 24, 2013 He may not have been under investigation but he seems to have believed he was in some danger according to this version http://news.ninemsn....rs-before-death Michael Hastings, 33, best known for his work with Rolling Stone magazine and BuzzFeed, sent the email at 12.56pm on Monday, June 17, KTLA reports. "Hey (redacted) the Feds are interviewing my 'close friends and associates'," the email read. and this The multi-award-winning journalist also said he was "onto a big story" and needed to "go off the radar for a bit." and needed to "go off the radar for a bit." Well he achieved that bit for sure unfortunately. Its a very odd set of events isn't it? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted June 24, 2013 #29 Share Posted June 24, 2013 The engine being 50 yards from the car tells you all you need to know on this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaptorBites Posted June 24, 2013 #30 Share Posted June 24, 2013 The engine being 50 yards from the car tells you all you need to know on this one. Exactly how does that factoid provide evidence to a conspiracy theory? Car in a collision, engine found around 100 feet away. Location was in Modesto, CA. I am sure the FBI was involved in the potential killing of this nobody too right? Since the engine was found separated from the chassis, as per your assertion. All sarcasm aside, the engine being found separated from the collision is not anymore unusual that what happened with Hasting's Mercedes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted June 24, 2013 Author #31 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) Exactly how does that factoid provide evidence to a conspiracy theory? Car in a collision, engine found around 100 feet away. Location was in Modesto, CA. I am sure the FBI was involved in the potential killing of this nobody too right? Since the engine was found separated from the chassis, as per your assertion. All sarcasm aside, the engine being found separated from the collision is not anymore unusual that what happened with Hasting's Mercedes. you make a fair point, and as I have said earlier, I dont go in for the CT's... but it might seem odd, to those that do go in for it, (and I am in this instance quite curious), that he was, according to the story, working on something else like his previous whistle blowing stories... not to mention his apparent paranoia that he was being followed or investigated (whatever) and needed to get away, as he stated in his emails/texts/tweets etc...I hope you can see that too. . Edited June 24, 2013 by seeder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babe Ruth Posted June 25, 2013 #32 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Exactly how does that factoid provide evidence to a conspiracy theory? Car in a collision, engine found around 100 feet away. Location was in Modesto, CA. I am sure the FBI was involved in the potential killing of this nobody too right? Since the engine was found separated from the chassis, as per your assertion. All sarcasm aside, the engine being found separated from the collision is not anymore unusual that what happened with Hasting's Mercedes. No surprise, but I don't buy that the engine and tranny being separated from the wreck as being usual. The vehicle was not a 1950 Ford pickup, it was a late model Mercedes Benz fer chrissakes. I've owned 2 and driven many more. They are very well engineered and built. And from the pictures, while the vehicle was fully engaged in the fire, it looked like the chassis and body and frame were fairly well intact. The whole thing doesn't look right. An accident like that should not have separated engine from the vehicle by 50 feet, and it should not have been fully involved in flames. Clearly, the motive is there to get Hastings, and the means to do so was there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaptorBites Posted June 25, 2013 #33 Share Posted June 25, 2013 No surprise, but I don't buy that the engine and tranny being separated from the wreck as being usual. The vehicle was not a 1950 Ford pickup, it was a late model Mercedes Benz fer chrissakes. I've owned 2 and driven many more. They are very well engineered and built. And from the pictures, while the vehicle was fully engaged in the fire, it looked like the chassis and body and frame were fairly well intact. The whole thing doesn't look right. An accident like that should not have separated engine from the vehicle by 50 feet, and it should not have been fully involved in flames. Clearly, the motive is there to get Hastings, and the means to do so was there. So what if Mercedes is a well built car? Are you implying that they are above suffering the same issues as other lower model vehicles? FYI I have owned 2 Mercedes. A 2008 E320 and a 2003 C320. Both cars were outstanding vehicles, but suffered engine issues and brake issues frequently. Within the last 6 years, several Ferrari's and Lambo's have suffered horrific accidents where body separated in half and burned. Both vehicles are also considered well designed and sturdy by their owners as well. So I doubt your personal opinions matter anyways. The point I addressed is that engines do separate themselves from high speed collisions, and there is no evidence to support the assertion that it is an impossibility in this case. As funny as it seems, your offered rebuttal is based off your personal opinions that Mercedes is a well built car, and is above standard physics of high speed collisions. Funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catti-Brie Posted June 25, 2013 #34 Share Posted June 25, 2013 It could have been either an accident or a murder, but considering how much he was hated and feared by many powerful people, I'm going to continue to question the 'official story' the mainstream media is handing over. He died waaaaay to conveniently, my gut is telling me. Maybe the guy was driving his snazzy car way too fast, jackknifed, hit a curb, went airborn for a bit, came back down, impact on the road causing an explosion, and came to rest in front of that plam tree in a fire ball. To me, it doesn't look like the palm tree had enough damage to have been the cause of the impact, and the front end of the car wasn't smashed in like an accordian enough. Or, perhaps our shadow government is learning from their mistakes with the Snowden case -- that you need to make the whistleblower dissapear before he blows. I hope they never find him. Be careful -- If you ever suggest anything outside of the norm or the status quo you might be a conspiracy theorist (gasp!). Critical thinking is a lost art. I want to get good at it. I am going to question this one to all heck. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetpumper Posted June 25, 2013 #35 Share Posted June 25, 2013 The Hastings Hijack – Cyber Auto Abductions Completely Feasible Hastings’ 2013 Mercedes could have instead been hijacked via remote control, run to full throttle with all driver input disabled, and rammed into a tree. A team of hackers from the Department of Computer Science at the University of Washington conducted a study which has proven that all cars equipped with antilock brakes sold in the U.S. can be hacked via remote control and have their brakes entirely disabled with the car in motion, throttle revved, and remain fully operational with the key removed and the car in park with all driver input entirely ignored. http://www.zengardner.com/the-hastings-hijack-cyber-auto-abductions-completely-feasible/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaptorBites Posted June 25, 2013 #36 Share Posted June 25, 2013 The Hastings Hijack – Cyber Auto Abductions Completely Feasible Hastings’ 2013 Mercedes could have instead been hijacked via remote control, run to full throttle with all driver input disabled, and rammed into a tree. A team of hackers from the Department of Computer Science at the University of Washington conducted a study which has proven that all cars equipped with antilock brakes sold in the U.S. can be hacked via remote control and have their brakes entirely disabled with the car in motion, throttle revved, and remain fully operational with the key removed and the car in park with all driver input entirely ignored. http://www.zengardne...etely-feasible/ A link from that site took me to here: http://therebel.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=657564:full-remote-control-of-all-modern-u-s-market-cars-proven&catid=173:jim-stone&Itemid=1314&acm=733_340 There is little doubt Hastings Mercedes had a camera in it somewhere (cameras are super common on high end cars) which would have allowed an attacker to know exactly where Hasting's car was going, to give a visual of their attack and allow them to see what they were doing when they hijacked his car from a comfy drone desk a thousand miles away and drive it to a perfect crash. I don't personally think this is how they did it, but the capability is definitely there. WHAT IF? Yes.....WHAT IF? Let's look into where that article fails to "connect the dots" shall we? Michael Hasting's vehicle was the Mercedes Benz C250 Coupe. Now it is well known that Mercedes vehicles have what is called "Active Lane Keeping Assist". This feature uses a small mounted camera found behind the emblem. This is breaking news right? "The Rebel" stated that the perps would need a visual of the location of the vehicle to plan their attack, and on Mercedes's website clearly shows that their vehicles are equipped with front mounted cameras. The perps have exactly the tools needed to remote control drive the car...right? WRONG! "Active Lane Keeping Assist" is only found in higher models of Mercedes starting from the E class up. Since the model Hasting's was driving was a C class C250 Coupe, the feature is not available even as an option per Mercedes. http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/benz/safety In conclusion, the notion that Hasting's vehicle "could" have been remote controlled is unfounded, lacks evidence, and pure fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetpumper Posted June 25, 2013 #37 Share Posted June 25, 2013 It does appear to be an option: C250 Coupe $37,800* MSRP Optional Lane Keeping Assist http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicles/model/class-C/model-C250C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babe Ruth Posted June 25, 2013 #38 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Raptor Yeah, you're probably right. Nobody in government would have somebody else killed, especially somebody who "blew the whistle" on USMC General McChrystal and threatened to blow the whistle a bit more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted June 25, 2013 #39 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Raptor Yeah, you're probably right. Nobody in government would have somebody else killed, especially somebody who "blew the whistle" on USMC General McChrystal and threatened to blow the whistle a bit more. Isn't McChrystal the same general who covered up the murder of Pat Tillman? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaptorBites Posted June 26, 2013 #40 Share Posted June 26, 2013 It does appear to be an option: C250 Coupe $37,800* MSRP Optional Lane Keeping Assist http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicles/model/class-C/model-C250C Then I stand corrected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaptorBites Posted June 26, 2013 #41 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Raptor Yeah, you're probably right. Nobody in government would have somebody else killed, especially somebody who "blew the whistle" on USMC General McChrystal and threatened to blow the whistle a bit more. Are you willing to offer evidence BR? Or did you really think your biased opinion laced with obvious paranoia and mistrust of government is the only "evidence" you need to offer? Present evidence to back up your statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted June 26, 2013 #42 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Exactly how does that factoid provide evidence to a conspiracy theory? Car in a collision, engine found around 100 feet away. Location was in Modesto, CA. I am sure the FBI was involved in the potential killing of this nobody too right? Since the engine was found separated from the chassis, as per your assertion. All sarcasm aside, the engine being found separated from the collision is not anymore unusual that what happened with Hasting's Mercedes. Wow, good find. It sounded strange to me cause I worked in a scrap yard for like 5 years way back when. I saw between 50 to 200 wrecked cars a day. I have never to my recollection seen a engine ejected from a car. But I guess it could happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babe Ruth Posted June 26, 2013 #43 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Wow, good find. It sounded strange to me cause I worked in a scrap yard for like 5 years way back when. I saw between 50 to 200 wrecked cars a day. I have never to my recollection seen a engine ejected from a car. But I guess it could happen. Thanks for posting that. I've never worked in a scrap yard, but cannot recall having seen such a separation in any accident I've seen or been a part of. Kowalski Yes ma'am, McChrystal was the big player, ranking officer, in the coverup of Pat Tillman's death and the lies told to his mother. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catti-Brie Posted June 26, 2013 #44 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Are you willing to offer evidence BR? Or did you really think your biased opinion laced with obvious paranoia and mistrust of government is the only "evidence" you need to offer? Present evidence to back up your statements. Look at the NDAA. January 1st President Obama signed into law the National Defense Authorization Act. Our government has a kill list. Who knows who is on it, besides those terrorists who are actually publisized as being killed by our drones (for propaganda effect, in my opinion--in other words, it's working, see? It's really really working--wheeee!). Not that I don't enjoy a devil's advocate, Raptor, to enrich the conversation 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted June 26, 2013 Author #45 Share Posted June 26, 2013 some of you may like this vid about high level assassinations, allegedly Enemies of the State http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHMZ5sR5BcY 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted June 26, 2013 #46 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Hours before death, Hastings claimed the FBI was on his tail The death of journalist Michael Hastings is raising new questions after an email he sent hours before last week’s fatal car crash has surfaced showing a possible FBI probe into the reporter. KTLA News in Los Angeles received an email on Friday that was forwarded to them by a friend of the 33-year-old reporter. Hastings, who wrote for Rolling Stone and the website BuzzFeed, perished after an auto wreck in L.A. early Tuesday last week. According to an email Hastings sent Monday afternoon to a handful of friends, he believed his colleagues could be visited by Federal Bureau of Investigation officers due to an article he was working on. “Hey [redacted}, the Feds are interviewing my ‘close friends and associates,’” Hastings wrote, before recommending to his colleagues that they seek legal advice if approached by investigators. “Also: I’m onto a big story, and need to go off the rada[r] for a bit,” he added. “All the best, and hope to see you all soon.” The Los Angeles Times originally reported that Hastings was working on an article about Florida socialite Jill Kelley at the time of his death, but Hastings' widow, Elise Jordan, said that wasn't the case. "To correct the record, since I've seen it erroneously reported a few times: @mmhastings was not working on a story about Jill Kelley," Jordan tweeted on Tuesday. Kelley made headlines last year after she became entangled in a high-profile scandal involving then-CIA Director David Petraeus and Gen. George Allen, who then commanded US troops in Afghanistan. A federal probe of suspicious emails sent to Kelley later unearthed an extramarital affair between Gen. Petraeus and his biographer, Paula Broadwell, which led to the CIA director’s resignation. Before taking the helm as CIA director, Petraeus commanded US troops in Afghanistan — the same role that later went to Gen. Allen. Petraeus had inherited that role from Gen. Stanley McChrystal. On his part, McChystal resigned from that position after a 2010 Hastings-penned article from Afghanistan raised questions about the commander’s remarks about the Obama administration. He was forced to apologize for comments he made in the article that led to his resignation, and Hastings was presented with a Polk journalism award for his report. Staff Sgt. Joseph Biggs, who met Hastings when the journalist was embedded in Afghanistan in 2008, said he received the email less than a day before the auto accident and told KTLA it sounded “very panicked.” “It alarmed me very much,” Biggs said. “I just said it doesn’t seem like him. I don’t know, I just had this gut feeling and it just really bothered me,” he said. “He was a good friend of mine,” Biggs wrote in a tweet sent after Hastings’ death. According to the soldier, Biggs was blind-copied on the email sent mid-day Monday, which was addressed to a handful of Hastings’ colleagues. He died around 15 hours after the email was sent. One week after his death, speculations continue to surround Hastings’ death. The other recipients of the email obtained by Higgs have yet to address the correspondence, but the soldier said it’s unlikely because others are worried of what will happen next. “The reason I released the email is because those people were too scared. I'm not,” Higgs tweeted over the weekend. “I won't let a man die in vein [sic] because I'm too scared of what will happen to me. If I sent that email to Mike he wouldn't rest,” Higgs wrote, “He would fight.” On the eve of Hastings’ funeral this Monday in Vermont, Higgs said the deceased journalist’s wife thanked him for releasing the email. “She's vowing to take down whoever did this. She's a fighter,” he wrote. The Los Angeles Police Department says they do not suspect foul play in Hastings’ death, and the FBI said he was not the target of an investigation. Appearing on Fox News on Monday, Ali Gharib, a journalist and friend of Hastings, said “I don’t think he was a reckless a person.” “That doesn’t mean he might not have been driving excessively fast,” added Gharib, who said it wouldn’t be “a wild situation” to imagine Hastings driving quickly through Los Angeles late last week. Speaking to Yahoo News last week, eyewitness Michael Carter wrote that he was nearby at the time of impact and “saw a giant fireball at the base of one of the palms that line the medians” on the road Hastings’ Mercedes was traveling down. “It was surreal. Even from as far away as I was, I could see how violent an impact it had been.” From: http://rt.com/usa/sent-death-email-hastings-172/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted June 26, 2013 Author #47 Share Posted June 26, 2013 and another story says: Bush advisor: Hastings crash ‘consistent with a car cyberattack’ "A former cybersecurity advisor to President George W. Bush says a sophisticated computer hack could have been the cause of the automobile accident that claimed the life of journalist Michael Hastings last week in Los Angeles. Richard Clarke, a State Department official-turned-special advisor to several United States presidents, said the early morning auto crash last Tuesday was "consistent with a car cyberattack,” raising new questions about the death of the award-winning journalist. http://rt.com/usa/michael-hastings-cyber-car-218/ speculation of course!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted June 27, 2013 #48 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Just curious... Why is there water gushing from the ground only a few feet from the car? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted June 27, 2013 Author #49 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Just curious... Why is there water gushing from the ground only a few feet from the car? Yeh I saw that in the vid too. The hydrant right? Dont know about the US but in UK the firemen open manholes and connect to mains pipes if they need more water. I guess its the same over there, but if water is gushing from the hydrant and no hose attached? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babe Ruth Posted June 27, 2013 #50 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Without reviewing the video, there was a local resident spraying water on the fire with his garden hose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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