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Amazingly Untouched Royal Tomb Found

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A rare, undisturbed royal tomb has been unearthed in Peru, revealing the graves of three Wari queens buried alongside gold and silver riches and possible human sacrifices.

Though the surrounding site has been looted many times, this mausoleum has managed to evade grave robbers for hundreds of years, archaeologists say.

Long before the Inca built Machu Picchu, the Wari empire flourished between A.D. 700 and 1000 throughout much of present-day Peru. At a time when Paris had just 25,000 residents, the Wari capital Huari was home to 40,000 people at its height, according to National Geographic, which reported the find. [in Photos: Amazing Ruins of the Ancient World]

http://www.livescience.com/37810-royal-wari-tomb-found-in-peru.html

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The flask and ear ornaments bring a "personality" to the bones. I can't wait to see more artifacts from the site.

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The flask and ear ornaments bring a "personality" to the bones. I can't wait to see more artifacts from the site.

ill do my best to keep updating the news on this site

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ill do my best to keep updating the news on this site

pm me if you are so inclined, thanks! with more on this archeological dig

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pm me if you are so inclined, thanks! with more on this archeological dig

shall do

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shall do

Just think of all the sites not yet discovered, the wealth of evidence yet to be unearthed---and how history is still in the making.

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Just think of all the sites not yet discovered, the wealth of evidence yet to be unearthed---and how history is still in the making.

I agree my friend, so much knowledge has yet to be discovered

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Sigh. Grave robbers. Thankfully this one has remained untouched. It also seemed to avoid being bulldozed and turned into a road.

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Sigh. Grave robbers. Thankfully this one has remained untouched. It also seemed to avoid being bulldozed and turned into a road.

that was a very sad day indeed

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What a shame it had to be disturbed, but if removing the artifacts will save them from highway construction, I guess it would be better to lie in a museum somewhere than to be bulldozed, and better than being "looted," though archaeology is looting in a more formal way, come to think of it.

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What a shame it had to be disturbed, but if removing the artifacts will save them from highway construction, I guess it would be better to lie in a museum somewhere than to be bulldozed, and better than being "looted," though archaeology is looting in a more formal way, come to think of it.

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well I couldn't find a good pic of 3 queens with lots of bling, but I did find one pic

julian_clary_crown.jpg

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Great find tho, seriously. Might have been a bit difficult tho having 3 queens ruling or just being wives to 3 kings that is .. unless they were buried at differing times I guess

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well I couldn't find a good pic of 3 queens with lots of bling, but I did find one pic

julian_clary_crown.jpg

:clap:

Great find tho, seriously. Might have been a bit difficult tho having 3 queens ruling or just being wives to 3 kings that is .. unless they were buried at differing times I guess

seeder for the win

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I agree that this is an important discovery, on many levels.

Perhaps the most important, as pointed-out, was that this was previously untouched by "grave robbers" or such.

Given that, this is like a time capsule, allowing the experts to further refine the description of the historical events/practices of that era and of that community.

Great find.

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A rare, undisturbed royal tomb has been unearthed in Peru, revealing the graves of three Wari queens buried alongside gold and silver riches and possible human sacrifices.

Though the surrounding site has been looted many times, this mausoleum has managed to evade grave robbers for hundreds of years, archaeologists say.

Long before the Inca built Machu Picchu, the Wari empire flourished between A.D. 700 and 1000 throughout much of present-day Peru. At a time when Paris had just 25,000 residents, the Wari capital Huari was home to 40,000 people at its height, according to National Geographic, which reported the find. [in Photos: Amazing Ruins of the Ancient World]

http://www.livescien...nd-in-peru.html

Slight problem.

The dating of PP, Machu Pichu and most of the ancient South American sites are all heavily disputed.

It's a mistake to assume that the text books dates are correct.

Something happened at PP way into the distant past as evidenced by the cataclysmic destruction there. I made the poiint several months ago that if the cataclysm had occurred in more recent times people would have had recollection of it.

We find no such thing among the indigenous people of the areas.

Be careful and don't assume would be my advice.

Z

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Slight problem.

The dating of PP, Machu Pichu and most of the ancient South American sites are all heavily disputed.

Only by the AA crowd matey and well you know it....and the AA teams are not professional long schooled and experienced archaeologists, now are they? Not one of them

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Only by the AA crowd matey and well you know it....and the AA teams are not professional long schooled and experienced archaeologists, now are they? Not one of them

Not at all.

The dating of these sites was done only to fit the convenience of an assumed chronology with pitifully little supporting evidence.

On the other hand lots of evidence points to the idea that these sites are far more ancient. Of course that needs research, reasoning, and a deeper sense of perception. None of which are to be found in the mainstream unfortunately.

I don't say or claim these things to wind up the skeptics. I truly firmly believe what I say. I stand not alone on the issue.

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Only by the AA crowd matey and well you know it....and the AA teams are not professional long schooled and experienced archaeologists, now are they? Not one of them

Just one example which immediately puts you and the mainstream on shaky ground.

PP was built some time between 500 and 600 AD was it? Well that means it must have been the work of the Aymara as the only indigenous people known in that area at the time.

Can it be proved that they were ever associated with master precision masonry skills using hard stone?

Such is the folly of the claims. Yet all seem happy to buy into it.

Not me.

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Just one example which immediately puts you and the mainstream on shaky ground.

PP was built some time between 500 and 600 AD was it? Well that means it must have been the work of the Aymara as the only indigenous people known in that area at the time.

Can it be proved that they were ever associated with master precision masonry skills using hard stone?

Such is the folly of the claims. Yet all seem happy to buy into it.

Not me.

how old do you figure they are than? and a little question who would you buy a burger from chef ramsey? or a bum that used to flip burgers in mc d's back in the 60's? same type one just has the more accurate quality

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how old do you figure they are than? and a little question who would you buy a burger from chef ramsey? or a bum that used to flip burgers in mc d's back in the 60's? same type one just has the more accurate quality

Lol, spose that would depend on if the bum has been flipping since the 60's- he might have more experience. Then again, I'm not a huge Ramsey fan, he was nice enough out of the kitchen but blech, he is so not all that. I think a lot of celebrity chefs are more hype than their talent is worth.

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how old do you figure they are than? and a little question who would you buy a burger from chef ramsey? or a bum that used to flip burgers in mc d's back in the 60's? same type one just has the more accurate quality

He has a fixation, (zoser) with the AA vids and all the 'facts' within them, haha. that says we should burn the text books. But, actually, he is totally wrong on all counts, and he has always been wrong. He tries so hard to brainwash others with the AA stories that he believes without question... but he can nver rustle up facts. Like the following reply I was going to make to him, but I will put it here now:

Shaky ground eh zoser? Look - I dont give a fig who built PP, native Indians, native cowboys, or native belly dancers, I just dont care. But when it comes to solid facts...

And, for the benefit of other readers - heres the FACTS:

"Determining the age of the Pumapunku complex has been a focus of researchers since the discovery of the Tiwanaku site. As noted by Andean specialist, Binghamton University Anthropology professor W. H. Isbell, a radiocarbon date was obtained by Vranich from organic material from lowermost and oldest layer of mound-fill forming the Pumapunku.

This layer was deposited during the first of three construction epochs and dates the initial construction of the Pumapunku to AD 536–600 (1510 ±25 B.P. C14, calibrated date). Since the radiocarbon date came from the lowermost and oldest layer of mound-fill underlying the andesite and sandstone stonework, the stonework must have been constructed sometime after AD 536–600.

The excavation trenches of Vranich show that the clay, sand, and gravel fill of the Pumapunku complex lie directly on the sterile middle Pleistocene sediments. These excavation trenches also demonstrated the lack of any pre-Andean Middle Horizon cultural deposits within the area of the Tiwanaku Site adjacent to the Pumapunku complex.

http://en.wikipedia....i/Pumapunku#Age

:tu:

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Lol, spose that would depend on if the bum has been flipping since the 60's- he might have more experience. Then again, I'm not a huge Ramsey fan, he was nice enough out of the kitchen but blech, he is so not all that. I think a lot of celebrity chefs are more hype than their talent is worth.

second thoughts, deleting due to poss libel

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Lol, spose that would depend on if the bum has been flipping since the 60's- he might have more experience. Then again, I'm not a huge Ramsey fan, he was nice enough out of the kitchen but blech, he is so not all that. I think a lot of celebrity chefs are more hype than their talent is worth.

lol just using an example heres a better one having a certified company install a play gym in your backyard, or the drunk guy that says he can make a play gym out of used gum and spruce twigs, see the diff in quality? :P SHIZZAH!

He has a fixation, (zoser) with the AA vids and all the 'facts' within them, haha. that says we should burn the text books. But, actually, he is totally wrong on all counts, and he has always been wrong. He tries so hard to brainwash others with the AA stories that he believes without question... but he can nver rustle up facts. Like the following reply I was going to make to him, but I will put it here now:

Shaky ground eh zoser? Look - I dont give a fig who built PP, native Indians, native cowboys, or native belly dancers, I just dont care. But when it comes to solid facts...

And, for the benefit of other readers - heres the FACTS:

you would make an excellent thread smack down tag partner! u cream them ill stand around and look purdy!"Determining the age of the Pumapunku complex has been a focus of researchers since the discovery of the Tiwanaku site. As noted by Andean specialist, Binghamton University Anthropology professor W. H. Isbell, a radiocarbon date was obtained by Vranich from organic material from lowermost and oldest layer of mound-fill forming the Pumapunku.

This layer was deposited during the first of three construction epochs and dates the initial construction of the Pumapunku to AD 536–600 (1510 ±25 B.P. C14, calibrated date). Since the radiocarbon date came from the lowermost and oldest layer of mound-fill underlying the andesite and sandstone stonework, the stonework must have been constructed sometime after AD 536–600.

The excavation trenches of Vranich show that the clay, sand, and gravel fill of the Pumapunku complex lie directly on the sterile middle Pleistocene sediments. These excavation trenches also demonstrated the lack of any pre-Andean Middle Horizon cultural deposits within the area of the Tiwanaku Site adjacent to the Pumapunku complex.

http://en.wikipedia....i/Pumapunku#Age

:tu:

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seeder you would make an excellent thread smakcdown partner! you cream them ill stand around and look purdy!

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how old do you figure they are than? and a little question who would you buy a burger from chef ramsey? or a bum that used to flip burgers in mc d's back in the 60's? same type one just has the more accurate quality

My challenge to you will be simple.

If you are convinced that the Aymara Indians (that's what they were; indians) performed highly accurate modular stonework in andesite then please provide the evidence. It must be available yes?

Some convincing evidence of tools used would be nice.

I'll wait.

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