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Born into Islam and Born Again Christian?

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Some are born into religion, they may have no choice,

Most Christians who receive the Holy Spirit are born again through a strong spiritual experience , even if born into the Christian religion they are born yet again by the Holy Spirit.

Does Islam have a similar comparison of being born again, is there a teaching similar , like a strong spiritual conversion experience that happens latter by God, even though your born into it?

I have not heard anything like this spoken of by the Muslims I've known over the years.

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Some are born into religion, they may have no choice,

Most Christians who receive the Holy Spirit are born again through a strong spiritual experience , even if born into the Christian religion they are born yet again by the Holy Spirit.

Does Islam have a similar comparison of being born again, is there a teaching similar , like a strong spiritual conversion experience that happens latter by God, even though your born into it?

I have not heard anything like this spoken of by the Muslims I've known over the years.

Islam has the hadj, which is sort of a "born again" event on steroids. So, as always, islam doubles up the most fundamentalist Christian concepts, and then some.

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Its good to sometimes recognise what we have in common rather than what separates us..

that (from a Christian prospective ) they are reborn again by the Holy Spirit , or as you state " hadj" ( from the Muslim prospective) shows there is a similarity.

The rebirth is a difficult subject to describe or put into words ,its incredibly powerful for both religions then, a very real event to those who have gone through such a awakening.

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Its good to sometimes recognise what we have in common rather than what separates us..

that (from a Christian prospective ) they are reborn again by the Holy Spirit , or as you state " hadj" ( from the Muslim prospective) shows there is a similarity.

The rebirth is a difficult subject to describe or put into words ,its incredibly powerful for both religions then, a very real event to those who have gone through such a awakening.

The term "rebirth" is just fancy claptrap for a cult ritual, which strengthens the membership, bind the members together, and separate them from non-members. All cults have some form of this. Again, while the Christian version seems pretty mellow, the islamic version is radical. It is a mass-event, in whole city where no non-members are allowed, and includes food and sleep depratavation, which hightens the intensity of such a brain-washing exercise enormously.

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Would be very interested to hear from a Muslim about there experience with it.

A hard subject to describe because its so individual,

The Christian rebirth experience is one where we hear the voice of God ( divine spirits) guiding us and teaching us, a real awakening to the divine, and not just in the waking but in sleeping we see visions and converse with those from long ago, it goes beyond worship and strengthens us,renewing our souls, wiping away our sins, correcting our thoughts.. it confirms outright to those who receive the experience that there is a God, the power of the Holy Spirit descends and is something that is felt through the entire person, including physicaly. Its a difficult subject to exactly pinpoint. After this rebirth the Holy Spirit withdraws a little so we can find our own path with our own free will , it only gives us what we need, then after we have found a path comes back again..its often a sad time when we feel the Holy spirit start to leave, we cry in our hearts like a child for a parent from Sepperation sickness, but its a important time to put into practice that wich the Holy Spirit has given, this is also a time where some decide to leave the path with God unfortunately, as they are tested and allowed to be tempted. But for those who hold onto to God with all there heart and all there might there rewards are in heaven, and our Lord is always waiting for us if we do leave and decide to return "Come to me as you are", no matter what distress or how far of the path we strayed.

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Its not something you will be taught about, when after the rebirth , the Holy Spirit does leave, a work must be tested! there will be several of these events in our lives on earth we grow through stages but the first is often the most powerful, it would be good if pastors prepared people to acknowledged this, so there strengthened and ready for that time. Its often a confusing time, many do fall away.

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