Big Bad Voodoo Posted August 5, 2013 #1 Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) Hello Umers, Moche culture flourished in todays Peru from 100 to 700 AD. On their pottery we have blond people. Were they some Nordic people, pre-Vikings...or perhaps Chachapoyas? Horns? This is interesting. Blonde man having sex (rapes?) with black hair woman. Edited August 5, 2013 by the L 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emberdawn Posted August 5, 2013 #2 Share Posted August 5, 2013 From the history taught in public school some of the South American people believed that their Gods were white. That why the Spainish were able to do what they did. Were they old stories about white visitors from other lands? Possibly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabby Kitten Posted August 5, 2013 #3 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Thanks for posting these images. It's likely that white people have gone to the Americas long even before the Vikings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted August 5, 2013 #4 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I think its Gold, wearing gold items 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted August 5, 2013 #5 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I only see one blonde head in those 3 peices. Who knows the reason. Does it have a tail too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhaten-pasheri Posted August 5, 2013 #6 Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) Probably simply stylistic conventions at the time these pieces were made. If we went by ancient art to get an idea of what people of a particular culture looked like, then, depending on fashion, ancient Greeks were black, or red. And in many ancient cultures from that region, Rome, Egypt etc, males were a different race to women as males were portrayed as dark skinned and females pale. Yet it is simply a convention, though perhaps based on men mostly being outside workers skimpily dressed, and women being more modestly dressed and spending more time indoors. Though about the skimpily dressed, this seems same in Egypt for males and females. Though this based on the tomb paintings, the reality may have been different given the amount of ancient clothing that survives, particulary for children who are almost always portrayed in the art as nude, but may not have been in reality, or at least not all the time, as Egypt is not a perpetual furnace day and night, summer and winter. Edited August 5, 2013 by Tutankhaten-pasheri 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted August 5, 2013 Author #7 Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) I only see one blonde head in those 3 peices. Who knows the reason. Does it have a tail too? We have natives with tails. Correct. As Huexotzingan, Aztecs and Tlaxcalan. Edited August 5, 2013 by the L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souletic Posted August 5, 2013 #8 Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) Europeans are not the only people with blonde hair. And this pottery does not show blonde hair, it could be white hair or something else. Edited August 5, 2013 by Souletic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhaten-pasheri Posted August 5, 2013 #9 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Europeans are not the only people with blonde hair. And this pottery does not show blonde hair, it could be white hair or something else. This Melanesian? or from that part of world, Australia even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souletic Posted August 5, 2013 #10 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Yes Melanesian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMARUKHAN111666888 Posted August 5, 2013 #11 Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) The images on the pottery shows are the Ainu people, ancient Japanese people, Recently the Japanese scientific community found out that the Ainu people have more genetic similarities to ancient Peruvians, There are pieces of pottery in Ecuador Peru Colombia and Bolivia that resemble the ainus' that dates 3800 bc. Edited August 5, 2013 by AMARUKHAN111666888 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted August 5, 2013 #12 Share Posted August 5, 2013 We have natives with tails. Correct. As Huexotzingan, Aztecs and Tlaxcalan. Are you saying that the piece shown is of a blonde-headed man with a 3-4 foot tail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted August 5, 2013 Author #13 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Are you saying that the piece shown is of a blonde-headed man with a 3-4 foot tail? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted August 5, 2013 Author #14 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Perhaps those are Chachapoyas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted August 5, 2013 #15 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Yes. I'm confused why did you open this thread asking if perhaps they were nordic or pre-viking people? They did not have tails. My guess is that the bottom picture is an artists try at mixing a man and a cat of some sort. They guy to the left looks to have a bird type head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted August 5, 2013 Author #16 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I'm confused why did you open this thread asking if perhaps they were nordic or pre-viking people? They did not have tails. My guess is that the bottom picture is an artists try at mixing a man and a cat of some sort. They guy to the left looks to have a bird type head. Just because of that tail I left open mind of idea of blond native tribe. Question is do you know for such tribe? Where they Chachapoyas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted August 5, 2013 #17 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Just because of that tail I left open mind of idea of blond native tribe. Question is do you know for such tribe? Where they Chachapoyas? I don't know of the Chachapoyas having tails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted August 5, 2013 Author #18 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I don't know of the Chachapoyas having tails. Ofcourse you dont. We know very little about them. But we know they were different then others natives. They have lighter skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBene Posted August 5, 2013 #19 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Have you read about Friendship Island? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted August 5, 2013 Author #20 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Have you read about Friendship Island? Once I scan somethin but as I remember story originate from 20 century and it have connections with UFO and Aliens. Or Im wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBene Posted August 5, 2013 #21 Share Posted August 5, 2013 No you're not wrong. It started in the 80's, but these scammers tried to convince people that they were here before our natives. Peopled described them as nordic people, very tall, blonde, blue/green eyes and such. Some people here believe that this nordic people were here before than Spaniards (which I refuse to believe). They said they lived in an island that could not be found using normal means and teach the scriptures through radio waves. They were able to take people from the continent and save them from cancer and other illnesses. Some people swear they were there and were healed. A bunch of bs if you ask me, but the topic remind me that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted August 5, 2013 Author #22 Share Posted August 5, 2013 No you're not wrong. It started in the 80's, but these scammers tried to convince people that they were here before our natives. Peopled described them as nordic people, very tall, blonde, blue/green eyes and such. Some people here believe that this nordic people were here before than Spaniards (which I refuse to believe). They said they lived in an island that could not be found using normal means and teach the scriptures through radio waves. They were able to take people from the continent and save them from cancer and other illnesses. Some people swear they were there and were healed. A bunch of bs if you ask me, but the topic remind me that. I understand. Nordic (aliens) and SA. For me what you describe is just another urban legend. Although is interesting story for anyone who like urban legends. My favourite urban legend is Goblins on airplanes wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted August 5, 2013 #23 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I'm confused why did you open this thread asking if perhaps they were nordic or pre-viking people? They did not have tails. My guess is that the bottom picture is an artists try at mixing a man and a cat of some sort. They guy to the left looks to have a bird type head. The scene on the flask looks, to me, like a creation myth scene for some reason. What is the bird man pouring from his pot? Birdmen were a big deal in some peruvian spiritual beliefs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted August 5, 2013 Author #24 Share Posted August 5, 2013 The scene on the flask looks, to me, like a creation myth scene for some reason. What is the bird man pouring from his pot? Birdmen were a big deal in some peruvian spiritual beliefs. Moche painted and sculptured many sex scenes. Like menage a trois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted August 5, 2013 Author #25 Share Posted August 5, 2013 But what does he pouring indeed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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