Waspie_Dwarf Posted August 15, 2013 #1 Share Posted August 15, 2013 NASA Voyager Statement about Competing Models to Explain Recent Spacecraft Data A newly published paper argues that NASA's Voyager 1 spacecraft has already entered interstellar space. The model described in the paper is new and different from other models used so far to explain the data the spacecraft has been sending back from more than 11 billion miles (18 billion kilometers) away from our sun.Read more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacenut56 Posted August 16, 2013 #2 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Happy journies Voyager. Phone home often if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brlesq1 Posted August 20, 2013 #3 Share Posted August 20, 2013 How cool is this? That's just marvelous. I hope it keeps sending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted August 20, 2013 #4 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Would be nice if there was an onboard camera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted August 20, 2013 Author #5 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Would be nice if there was an onboard camera There is. What is it supposed to be imaging? There is two fifths of bugger all to see at that distance from the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted August 20, 2013 #6 Share Posted August 20, 2013 There is. What is it supposed to be imaging? There is two fifths of bugger all to see at that distance from the sun. stars distant though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted August 20, 2013 Author #7 Share Posted August 20, 2013 stars distant though Which will look exactly the same as they do from Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted August 20, 2013 #8 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Which will look exactly the same as they do from Earth. yes but from the voyager, there is no way a telescope can see far as Voyager 1, Voyager 1 can see further afield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted August 21, 2013 #9 Share Posted August 21, 2013 yes but from the voyager, there is no way a telescope can see far as Voyager 1, Voyager 1 can see further afield Sadly, no. Cheers, Badeskov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatureBoff Posted August 21, 2013 #10 Share Posted August 21, 2013 NASA Voyager Statement about Competing Models to Explain Recent Spacecraft Data Interesting. This will have future implications for modeling the spiral galaxy rotation imv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted August 22, 2013 #11 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Interesting. This will have future implications for modeling the spiral galaxy rotation imv. May I ask what those implications might be? Cheers, Badeskov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatureBoff Posted August 22, 2013 #12 Share Posted August 22, 2013 May I ask what those implications might be? Cheers, Badeskov You can ask, but if I replied Waspie_Dwarf would just delete it. Safe to say I have deduced that there must be an additional force at work which we are not yet fully aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted August 22, 2013 #13 Share Posted August 22, 2013 You can ask, but if I replied Waspie_Dwarf would just delete it. Safe to say I have deduced that there must be an additional force at work which we are not yet fully aware of. And the reason why pure speculation would be removed is because this is the science forum. They are other places to talk about that kind of thing...please leave this area for scientific discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taun Posted August 22, 2013 #14 Share Posted August 22, 2013 If the stellar and interstellar magnetic fields are aligned - as this model suggests - what impact does that have on our views on the way the galaxy functions? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted August 22, 2013 #15 Share Posted August 22, 2013 You can ask, but if I replied Waspie_Dwarf would just delete it. Safe to say I have deduced that there must be an additional force at work which we are not yet fully aware of. Best to stay out of here, amigo. Unless you have the proper 'credentials' you will be pilloried and/or crucified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted August 22, 2013 #16 Share Posted August 22, 2013 You can ask, but if I replied Waspie_Dwarf would just delete it. Safe to say I have deduced that there must be an additional force at work which we are not yet fully aware of. If you had a thought through model that indicated a correlation as asserted, no he would not. I am pretty sure would enjoy the discussion. Alas, by your own admission you do not. Cheers, Badeskov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatureBoff Posted August 22, 2013 #17 Share Posted August 22, 2013 If you had a thought through model that indicated a correlation as asserted, no he would not. I am pretty sure would enjoy the discussion. Alas, by your own admission you do not. Cheers, Badeskov Not so. If you're interested enough you can start here http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1293 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted August 22, 2013 Author #18 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) If you had a thought through model that indicated a correlation as asserted, no he would not. I am pretty sure would enjoy the discussion. Alas, by your own admission you do not. The reason NatureBoff's posts are removed is because he ignores repeated requests not to take threads off topic to promote his own ideas. It has become virtually impossible to hold a discussion with on a large number of subjects without NatureBoff hijacking it. As well as being intensely annoying, it is also against the rules of this site: 3j. Thread derailment: Do not derail or 'hijack' threads with posts that are either off-topic or designed to draw attention away from what is being discussed. NatureBoff is free to discuss what he wants (within reason), he is just not at liberty to derail topic after topic (as he has done with this one). Now with that cleared up maybe we can get back on topic again. Edited August 22, 2013 by Waspie_Dwarf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis914 Posted August 22, 2013 #19 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Does anyone know if it is sending back binary data? I wonder what kind of transmitter it has on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted August 22, 2013 Author #20 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Does anyone know if it is sending back binary data? I wonder what kind of transmitter it has on it? Here is what NASA/JPL have to say: Uplink communications is via S-band (16-bits/sec command rate) while an X-band transmitter provides downlink telemetry at 160 bits/sec normally and 1.4 kbps for playback of high-rate plasma wave data. All data are transmitted from and received at the spacecraft via the 3.7 meter high-gain antenna (HGA). Source: NASA/JPL - Voyager: The Interstellar Mission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klambo Posted August 22, 2013 #21 Share Posted August 22, 2013 "Other models envision the interstellar magnetic field draped around our solar bubble and predict that the direction of the interstellar magnetic field is different from the solar magnetic field inside. By that interpretation, Voyager 1 would still be inside our solar bubble." So at this point in plain English, NASA aren't actually sure whether Voyager has left the solar sytem or not and further discussion is needed. We are not seeing a different direction of the magnetic field because Voyager hasn't yet left the solar system.........or we are not seeing a different direction of the magnetic field because there is no different direction. So has Voyager left the solar system or not? NASA say toss a coin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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