Saru Posted August 20, 2013 #1 Share Posted August 20, 2013 A set of ancient funeral beads discovered in Egypt are made from materials found in a meteorite. A set of funeral beads which could be the oldest iron artefacts on earth actually came from outer space, archaeologists have claimed. Read more... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefer-Ankhe Posted August 20, 2013 #2 Share Posted August 20, 2013 That's interesting... I had my misconecpetions on this subject at first, from the title, believing it would be another ludracris theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient astronaut Posted August 20, 2013 #3 Share Posted August 20, 2013 not surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundew Posted August 20, 2013 #4 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Obviously given to the ancients by aliens while they were levitating the pyramids...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SewerRat Posted August 20, 2013 #5 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Would that be the infamous Professor Ludracris whose arcane dissertations about mungastectomy and the role hybrid ratmuffoons played in the evolution of slippygrot caused such a stir? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted August 20, 2013 #6 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Supposedly, moldavite is the stone embedded in the Holy grail. It's no surprise the ancients used materials of extraterrestrial origin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibeliever Posted August 20, 2013 #7 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Obviously given to the ancients by aliens while they were levitating the pyramids...... Exaclty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie Posted August 20, 2013 #8 Share Posted August 20, 2013 The title is a tad misleading!! lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted August 20, 2013 #9 Share Posted August 20, 2013 It is a funny title. Very cool article. BEADS..... FROM..... SPACE!!!!!.............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibatag Posted August 21, 2013 #10 Share Posted August 21, 2013 The holy grail is not a cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainiac Posted August 21, 2013 #11 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Could be a thousand of years ago Egypt is a site of a big meteor impact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brlesq1 Posted August 23, 2013 #12 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Pretty cool--especially the part about the Egyptians having iron smithing abilities earlier than thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nohands Posted August 26, 2013 #13 Share Posted August 26, 2013 is there any metal available for them to use ? as a tool to shape those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash68 Posted August 29, 2013 #14 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I guess if they knew it was from space it would've been considered the most valuable and magical metal known to man at the time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted September 1, 2013 #15 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Isn't it supposedly easier to find meteroites in the sands of the Arab Peninsula and the Sahara, since they stand out against the sand? Same thing with meterites in Greenland and Antarctica, supposedly they are easier to find there because they stand out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cacoseraph Posted September 2, 2013 #16 Share Posted September 2, 2013 (edited) is there any metal available for them to use ? as a tool to shape those? Well, that's a bit of an interesting question. I am not a professional metallurgist or anything, but I do find it pretty interesting. The thing the article and the abstract of the paper (couldn't get the actual paper, it costs $) seem to think could be quite exciting is that these beads ARE shaped and that might imply they smelted and hot forged the meteorites into sheets that they rolled. This would have introduced the Egyptians to an Iron Age way sooner than is known. The Egyptians were pretty much Copper Age and could make hot forged copper tools of pretty decent complexity and quality at the time these beads came from. The thing is, I am pretty sure they could cold forge the meteorites. Cold forging is basically just hitting (or otherwise applying mechanical force to move ) things into the shape you want, without heating them up to melting or near temperatures, first The metallic meteorites are generally pretty much just iron and nickel already, and the problem with cold forging iron and iron alloys is it makes stuff brittle. But, it's not like it turns it into match sticks, it just makes it too brittle to be effect tools and tools of war. Cold forging small iron alloy meteorites should be doable with copper hammers and anvils. You would dent the crap out of the copper stuff fairly quickly, but I think the process would be faster than some of their stone working techniques.... and we know they were a brilliant and patient people.edit: cold working/forging: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_working forging: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forging Isn't it supposedly easier to find meteroites in the sands of the Arab Peninsula and the Sahara, since they stand out against the sand? Same thing with meterites in Greenland and Antarctica, supposedly they are easier to find there because they stand out. That sounds right. The pieces I have seen for sale are usually from Africa/Middle East. Edited September 2, 2013 by cacoseraph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talion Posted September 25, 2013 #17 Share Posted September 25, 2013 "The fall of meteorites has been interpreted as divine messages by multitudinous cultures since prehistoric times, and meteorites are still adored as heavenly bodies. Stony meteorites were used to carve birds and other works of art; jewelry and knifes were produced of meteoritic iron for instance by the Inuit society. We here present a ~10.6 kg Buddhist sculpture (the ‘iron man’) made of an iron meteorite, which represents a particularity in religious art and meteorite science. The specific contents of the crucial main (Fe, Ni, Co) and trace (Cr, Ga, Ge) elements, indicate an ataxitic iron meteorite with high Ni contents (~16 wt%) and Co (~0.6 wt%) that was used to produce the artefact. Additionally, the platinum group elements (PGEs), as well as the internal PGE ratios, exhibit a meteoritic signature. The geochemical data of the meteorite generally match the element values known from fragments of the Chinga ataxite (ungrouped iron) meteorite strewn field discovered in 1913. The provenance of the meteorite as well as of the piece of art strongly points to the border region of eastern Siberia and Mongolia, accordingly. The sculpture possibly portrays the Buddhist god Vaiœravana and might originate in the Bon culture of the 11th century. However, the ethnological and art historical details of the ‘iron man’ sculpture, as well as the timing of the sculpturing, currently remain speculative." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted September 26, 2013 #18 Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) The holy grail is not a cup Nowhere did i say it was a coffee mug or anything else . Whatever it is ,it has a moldavite embedded in it Edited September 26, 2013 by Simbi Laveau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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