Big Bad Voodoo Posted October 1, 2013 #1 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) Edited October 1, 2013 by Saru Fixed title 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaa-Tzik Posted October 1, 2013 #2 Share Posted October 1, 2013 There's a part at about the four minute mark were he likens this to a religion and talks about buying carbon indulgences from the carbon preisthood. So, where is the new Martin Luther to nail a thesis to the doors of the UN.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted October 1, 2013 Author #3 Share Posted October 1, 2013 There's a part at about the four minute mark were he likens this to a religion and talks about buying carbon indulgences from the carbon preisthood. So, where is the new Martin Luther to nail a thesis to the doors of the UN.... Still on toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted October 1, 2013 #4 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Still on toilet. Too much information... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyLove Posted October 1, 2013 #5 Share Posted October 1, 2013 "How the IPCC Underestimated Climate Change" http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=how-the-ipcc-underestimated-climate-change The reason: "Climate Risks Have Been Underestimated for the Last 20 Years" http://www.alternet.org/environment/climate-risks-have-been-underestimated-last-20-years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted October 1, 2013 Author #6 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) Too much information... Martin Luther got his idea for his thesis while he was on toilet. He was suffering from constipation and hemerhoids. Same as many big historical persons such as Napoleon. Edited October 1, 2013 by Big Bad Voodoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ealdwita Posted October 1, 2013 #7 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Many modern so-called musicians also produce their best material whilst on the toilet also, not to mention politicians! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug1029 Posted October 1, 2013 #8 Share Posted October 1, 2013 There's a part at about the four minute mark were he likens this to a religion and talks about buying carbon indulgences from the carbon preisthood. So, where is the new Martin Luther to nail a thesis to the doors of the UN.... The carbon indulgences comment hits pretty close to the truth. Some well-intentioned politicians have set up taxing systems to discourage carbon pollution, but then created exceptions for their friends. To be truly effective, there can be no exceptions and there needs to be a way to return that money to citizens on a per capita basis. If it gets spent on government projects, the effect is lessened. I'd call carbon taxes a well-intentioned, but a poorly-informed and half-hearted effort. Doug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Fish Posted October 1, 2013 #9 Share Posted October 1, 2013 looks like fraud to me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug1029 Posted October 1, 2013 #10 Share Posted October 1, 2013 looks like fraud to me You need your eyes checked. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted October 1, 2013 Author #11 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Obviously kids with no Phd wrote scientific works in IPCC. "The IPCC ignores the consensus among hurricane experts that there is no discernable link to global warning. It ignores the consensus among those who study natural disasters that there is no relationship between human greenhouse gas emissions and the rising cost of these disasters. It ignores the consensus among bona fide malaria experts that global warming has not caused malaria to spread. In each case the IPCC substitutes its own version of reality. In each case that version of reality makes global warming appear more frightening than genuine experts believe the available evidence indicates." http://www.climatescienceinternational.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=578 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted October 1, 2013 Author #12 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Doug read this rather! http://opinion.financialpost.com/2013/09/16/ipcc-models-getting-mushy/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted October 1, 2013 Author #13 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) Many modern so-called musicians also produce their best material whilst on the toilet also, not to mention politicians! I know on what you allude but many great ideas people get when they are relax. But I agree Music wayback was better. Only great recent discovery is Zaz! Edited October 1, 2013 by Big Bad Voodoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted October 1, 2013 Author #14 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Scientists who advocate the increase in temperatures because human CO2 glossing over the correlation between temperature and CO2. In the range of 650,000 years show that temperatures rose first and only then CO2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Bismarck Posted October 1, 2013 #15 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Scientists who advocate the increase in temperatures because human CO2 glossing over the correlation between temperature and CO2. In the range of 650,000 years show that temperatures rose first and only then CO2. The CO2 lag have been explained many times in this forum. But you do know that CO2 is not the only greenhouse gas. A couple of the last suddenly increased temperature rises in the past are due to methane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Bismarck Posted October 1, 2013 #16 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Doug read this rather! http://opinion.finan...-getting-mushy/ We can agree on one thing. We both don't like the IPCC. However this doesn't mean global warming are not caused by man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted October 1, 2013 Author #17 Share Posted October 1, 2013 We can agree on one thing. We both don't like the IPCC. However this doesn't mean global warming are not caused by man. Yes it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Bismarck Posted October 1, 2013 #18 Share Posted October 1, 2013 The carbon indulgences comment hits pretty close to the truth. Some well-intentioned politicians have set up taxing systems to discourage carbon pollution, but then created exceptions for their friends. To be truly effective, there can be no exceptions and there needs to be a way to return that money to citizens on a per capita basis. If it gets spent on government projects, the effect is lessened. I'd call carbon taxes a well-intentioned, but a poorly-informed and half-hearted effort. Doug The hole carbon trade scheme was a joke. Not helping anything expect you could become rich very easily if you knew how it worked and had friends with businesses. I'll admit some of my friends made a lot money from this scheme heck I even took a bit of the cake. The hole carbon trade scam was dumb and cannot believe more people didn't exploit it before it became a junk market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Bismarck Posted October 1, 2013 #19 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Yes it does. How and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted October 1, 2013 Author #20 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) I could ask you why humans are cause rather...But I wont because you have nothing to support that stance except of IPCC. To me AGW and IPCC = Lysenkoism. All studies and researchers point into one direction. And thats not humanity. All data shows one thing. Only IPCC show another. Gravity can be messured in USA, UK but also in Iran, China, Russia, India, Germany and Japan. Point of all story is-that there is no consensus. Which IPCC kindly suggest and want to imply trough friendly media which is owned by same people who wants CO2 taxes. Edited October 1, 2013 by Big Bad Voodoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Bismarck Posted October 2, 2013 #21 Share Posted October 2, 2013 You do know that the ipcc isn't behind the greenhouse gas theory, right? It's been around for more than a 100 years. This is basic science even small children can understand. The ipcc's work has nothing expect promoting (in a bad way) the concept of AGW to the world policy makers. The only people who uses the work of the ipcc are governments and the media. Can you please provide me all these studies and research which show AGW is a fraud, hoax or whatever you might call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Fish Posted October 2, 2013 #22 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The CO2 lag have been explained many times in this forum. But you do know that CO2 is not the only greenhouse gas. A couple of the last suddenly increased temperature rises in the past are due to methane. I'm skeptical about that claim, can you elaborate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Bismarck Posted October 2, 2013 #23 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I understand why you are skeptical of that statement. I'm pretty sure I saw a study not that long ago which stated that past global warming could have been due to methane. However when I check the atmospheric levels of methane i don't see a significant change. However my data only goes back 800.000 years. Sorry for that and thank you little fish for bringing it to my attention. I understand why you are skeptical of that statement. I'm pretty sure I saw a study not that long ago which stated that past global warming could have been due to methane. However when I check the atmospheric levels of methane i don't see a significant change. However my data only goes back 800.000 years. Sorry for that and thank you little fish for bringing it to my attention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug1029 Posted October 2, 2013 #24 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Doug read this rather! http://opinion.finan...-getting-mushy/ You're posting an op-ed piece in a financial mag as evidence of something? Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted October 2, 2013 Author #25 Share Posted October 2, 2013 IPCC Climate: A Product of Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics Built On Inadequate Data http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/10/02/ipcc-climate-a-product-of-lies-damn-lies-and-statistics-built-on-inadequate-data/ Romania – Coldest October 1st since 1929 – Snow, blizzards and closed roads http://iceagenow.info/2013/10/romania-coldest-october-1st-1929-snow-blizzards-closed-roads/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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