Big Bad Voodoo Posted October 12, 2013 #76 Share Posted October 12, 2013 This is such a pointless story. Same as your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted October 13, 2013 #77 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Same as your posts. You really want to go there? Really want to talk about useless posts? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted October 13, 2013 #78 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Keep thinking other beings don't exist you will learn. Firstly, please explain on what basis you are making that claim about posters here? WHO said those words? And is the '..you will learn..' indicative of an (unjustified) superiority complex? Sure sounds like it. I believe there is other life out there, and I don't think anyone posting here thinks otherwise. But I don't credibly and gullibly accept any old dreck. All that are so quick to say fake live in a it's only us mindstate, No, they don't - so drop the attitude. Fakery is common in this field - if you have something you would like discussed, please feel free to post it. But here we don't even have the images - how laughable that you would defend something that hasn't even been shown (and likely never will)... stop stuffing your heads with thought calories Yeah, we don't want serious thought to be applied - just jump right in and believe!!!! and digest some reality. Maybe you should learn about how to detect reality... There are some things not meant to be explained but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Like the others - I too would like to hear you tell us in detail about these things, namely: 1. How have you discerned/catalogued/perceived/decided upon these things "not meant to be explained" 2. Can you give your reasoning on why they must not be explained, in detail. I can't wait to discuss this fascinating topic in the sort of proper logical fashion it clearly deserves... And to BigBadVoodoo (formerly 'the L' - why keep changing your name as well as avatar?), I think you should: 1. Check mirror and look at the stuff you have posted lately. 2. Can you elaborate on what was the point of this thread, and what useful stuff we have learned/seen? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DONTEATUS Posted October 13, 2013 #79 Share Posted October 13, 2013 RIght Whaeres the Beef ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted October 13, 2013 #80 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Keep thinking other beings don't exist you will learn.All that are so quick to say fake live in a it's only us mindstate, stop stuffing your heads with thought calories and digest some reality.There are some things not meant to be explained but that doesn't mean they don't exist. "I Doubt Nothing" says your signature under your avatar. Do I presume then that you don't doubt the arrant nonsense of your own posts? Good to know. incidentally - before you trot out a claim of "you don't believe in aliens you hater" or whatever as a dismissal - I do believe in aliens. I believe the universe is so chock-a-block with life that we're so cosmically unimportant that noone would want to even consider visiting us here on Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted October 13, 2013 #81 Share Posted October 13, 2013 <snip> incidentally - before you trot out a claim of "you don't believe in aliens you hater" or whatever as a dismissal - I do believe in aliens. I believe the universe is so chock-a-block with life that we're so cosmically unimportant that noone would want to even consider visiting us here on Earth. Oh, the heresy Cheers, Badeskov 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DONTEATUS Posted October 14, 2013 #82 Share Posted October 14, 2013 That last one just might be true ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kludge808 Posted October 14, 2013 #83 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Keep thinking other beings don't exist. But other beings do exist. They really do. I see them every day. Big ones and little ones and noisy ones and quiet ones and multiple genders and multiple races and even hybrids. Lots of different hybrids. It's you who has to get out more and really see what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted October 14, 2013 #84 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Where'd slaughtr go? Some questions are awaiting you, slaught.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted October 14, 2013 #85 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Where'd slaughtr go? Some questions are awaiting you, slaught.. Where he normally goes, I would surmise. Into hiding only to pop up at some other random time in some other random thread with some random rant.... Cheers, Badeskov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heroic Bishop Posted November 3, 2013 #86 Share Posted November 3, 2013 To be honest without them putting the photos in front of the world for all to see / scrutinize / verify....this is just another glory hound.....same as the guy down our pub who says he was SAS, but he isn't supposed to talk about it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinewave Posted November 3, 2013 #87 Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) Roswell is little more than a revenue stream for Stanton Friedman. After inventing much of the story in 1978, he has written books and engaged in paid public speaking as a UFO expert. The original story and the version told after 1978 are quite different. Friedman attributes that to his detective work. I have no doubt his efforts are the cause but for very different reasons. Edited November 3, 2013 by sinewave 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabbath Posted November 3, 2013 #88 Share Posted November 3, 2013 You really want to go there? Really want to talk about useless posts? Didn't think he did 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMan0928 Posted November 3, 2013 #89 Share Posted November 3, 2013 http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/07/11/roswell-really-happened-says-former-cia-agent/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinewave Posted November 3, 2013 #90 Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) http://newsfeed.time...rmer-cia-agent/ And coincidentally he has a book to promote. What were the odds of that? All too often UFO stories turn into livelihoods for the people who tell them. There are even national UFO conventions where people gather not to hear evidence but to pay lots of money to listen to speakers tell the same or new stories in person. Of course there are books, t-shirts, and other silly merchandise to buy. Lots of money changes hands but the world moves no closer to compelling evidence. UFOs are big business for those devious enough to take advantage of believers. They are really easy targets after all. Edited November 3, 2013 by sinewave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMan0928 Posted November 3, 2013 #91 Share Posted November 3, 2013 And coincidentally he has a book to promote. What were the odds of that? All too often UFO stories turn into livelihoods for the people who tell them. There are even national UFO conventions where people gather not to hear evidence but to pay lots of money to listen to speakers tell the same or new stories in person. Of course there are books, t-shirts, and other silly merchandise to buy. Lots of money changes hands but the world moves no closer to compelling evidence. UFOs are big business for those devious enough to take advantage of believers. Problem is, Chase Brandon isn't the only one making these kinds of claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinewave Posted November 3, 2013 #92 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Problem is, Chase Brandon isn't the only one making these kinds of claims. So 66 years later he feels compelled to tell his story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMan0928 Posted November 3, 2013 #93 Share Posted November 3, 2013 So 66 years later he feels compelled to tell his story? How do you know it was 65 years later? He said he found a box with documents in at at Langley. He never claimed to had been there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinewave Posted November 3, 2013 #94 Share Posted November 3, 2013 How do you know it was 65 years later? He said he found a box with documents in at at Langley. He never claimed to had been there. And where are the documents? Without them and some verified provenance this is yet another anecdote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMan0928 Posted November 3, 2013 #95 Share Posted November 3, 2013 And where are the documents? Without them and some verified provenance this is yet another anecdote. Agreed. But that doesn't rule out the fact this guy was a 35+ year agent of the CIA and is making these claims. That's worth something. At least in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinewave Posted November 3, 2013 #96 Share Posted November 3, 2013 The original story told by the family who owned the land described the debris in a way that was very consistent with the materials used by the Air Force to make high altitude listening devices. Those devices where used to detect the sounds of Soviet nuclear tests. The family gathered the debris and held onto it for nearly 48 hours before reporting it. There were no mentions of large bits of wreckage or bodies. Those details did not appear in the story until after 1978 when Friedman started his second career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMan0928 Posted November 3, 2013 #97 Share Posted November 3, 2013 The original story told by the family who owned the land described the debris in a way that was very consistent with the materials used by the Air Force to make high altitude listening devices. Those devices where used to detect the sounds of Soviet nuclear tests. The family gathered the debris and held onto it for nearly 48 hours before reporting it. There were no mentions of large bits of wreckage or bodies. Those details did not appear in the story until after 1978 when Friedman started his second career. And what about Marcel's claims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinewave Posted November 3, 2013 #98 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Agreed. But that doesn't rule out the fact this guy was a 35+ year agent of the CIA and is making these claims. That's worth something. At least in my book. The perceived credibility of the witness does not make an anecdote any more believable without evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinewave Posted November 3, 2013 #99 Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) And what about Marcel's claims? The first Marcel claim or the ones made well after the fact? The report made by the Brazel family accurately described the balloons that were actively being launched as the data gathering phase of Project Mogul around the time of the alleged incident. The balloons were launched from nearby Alamogordo and were routinely retrieved from the surrounding area. The local press grabbed the story because of the recent alleged sightings of "flying saucers" in Washington state and made a flashy headline out of it. Mogul was classified top secret so the Air Force had to tread lightly with its explanation. Many saw this (and still do) as evasiveness and consider it to be a cover-up. In a way it is but not for the reasons popularly believed. Later on, sensationalist authors turned the story into the legend it is today complete with smoking wreckage and alien bodies. Edited November 3, 2013 by sinewave 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMan0928 Posted November 3, 2013 #100 Share Posted November 3, 2013 The first Marcel claim or the ones made well after the fact? Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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