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Mammoth Video Siberia 1943

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Here is a video I hadn't yet seen. It is really interesting.

Everything in the video looks completely fluid to me.

Matches stories of Mammoths being seen in Siberia.

[media=]http://youtu.be/w7T6vK3TEQE[/media]

More on the video on the youtube page.

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Well, this is the most compelling music scored video so it must be real.

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As to whether the footage is real or fake, I don't have enough knowledge about cgi to really have an opinion. But what I find strange is that this cameraman was allowed to keep his camera on a death march to Siberia, and film with it at that. Also why is there only a few seconds of footage?

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As to whether the footage is real or fake, I don't have enough knowledge about cgi to really have an opinion. But what I find strange is that this cameraman was allowed to keep his camera on a death march to Siberia, and film with it at that. Also why is there only a few seconds of footage?

That was the first thing that struck me as well. A camera would have been scraffed up by the Soviets so fast you'd have had to watch out for the sonic boom.

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You have an opportunity to take video footage of an animal which was exstinct 7,600 years ago, and what do you do? You take 1 minute of footage? I do not think so.

Well done Stardrive for putting this one to rest. :clap:

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Well, this is the most compelling music scored video so it must be real.

it on you tube, ofcourse its 100% authentic youtube doesnt lie

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You have an opportunity to take video footage of an animal which was exstinct 7,600 years ago, and what do you do? You take 1 minute of footage? I do not think so.

Well done Stardrive for putting this one to rest. :clap:

your sarcasm gives me the giggles Xd

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Hey Dude, we've all been fooled. Rule of thumb, if it looks too good to be true, then it probably is. Lesson learned, drop the bitter and move on. You're only human.

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Hey Dude, we've all been fooled. Rule of thumb, if it looks too good to be true, then it probably is. Lesson learned, drop the bitter and move on. You're only human.

agreed

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It's from a BBC show Walking with Beasts. They just zoomed in, inverted it, desaturated it, and added grain. At the 19:00min mark it's front center bottom.

[media=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMOhU8_Lt2E[/media]

Wow... Nice find.

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Yeah. Good job Stardrive.

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Reenactment of actual events.

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Anyway if it was real footage, surely it would be filmed with a camera from that era? not like HD camera?

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It's from a BBC show Walking with Beasts. They just zoomed in, inverted it, desaturated it, and added grain. At the 19:00min mark it's front center bottom.

[media=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMOhU8_Lt2E[/media]

Oh man, debunked in an instant lol. Great BBC Doc though :tu:

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That was the first thing that struck me as well. A camera would have been scraffed up by the Soviets so fast you'd have had to watch out for the sonic boom.

You mean like a Tunguska boom. :whistle:

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That was the first thing that struck me as well. A camera would have been scraffed up by the Soviets so fast you'd have had to watch out for the sonic boom.

Yup. And boy, for a guy who's presumably dead tired, scared, starving, and freezing to death, does he have steady hands! This is someone for whom the UFOs would have refused to frolic.

Edited by PersonFromPorlock

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Reenactment of actual events.

:rofl::rolleyes:

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Now I want to watch Walking with Beasts. It's amazingly realistic. It would be so cool to be able to really see something like that.

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Thanks all! But really, it was very easy. I just Googled "Mammoth Video Siberia 1943 debunked" and viola', there it was in all it's glory.

But even without doing that, the backstory was kinda dodgy, and the film didn't have a 1940's look about it...... and the music stunk.

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Still it's a good catch. Kudos on that.

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It's from a BBC show Walking with Beasts. They just zoomed in, inverted it, desaturated it, and added grain. At the 19:00min mark it's front center bottom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMOhU8_Lt2E

Nothing sells a good fake video like a good back story. Especially if you set that story back in time to before everyone had Photoshop, Premier, DAZ Studios, or even a personal computer...

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http://cryptozoo-osc...till-alive.html

It is thought mammoths died out at the end of the last Ice Age. A definitive explanation for their mass extinction is still not decided. (N.B.The dwarf mammoths of Wrangel Island only became extinct around 1700 to 1500 BC). Various theories for their extinction include being hunted by humans, a disease or climate change

The survival of the dwarf mammoths on Russia's Wrangel Island was due to the fact that the island was very remote, and uninhabited in the early post-Pleistocene period.

The actual island was not discovered by modern civilization until the 1820s by American whalers. A similar dwarfing occurred with Mammoths on the outer Channel Islands of California, but at an earlier period....

...In the late 19th century, there were (according to Bengt Sjögren 1962) many rumours about surviving mammoths hiding in Alaska. In October 1899, Henry Tukeman said he had killed a mammoth in Alaska, and donated the specimen to the Smithsonian Institution in Washington. The museum denied the existence of any such mammoth corpse, and it was thought to be a hoax. Also in the 19th century, several reports of "large shaggy beasts" were passed on to the Russian authorities by Siberian tribesman, but no proof ever surfaced. A French charge d´affaires working in Vladivostok, M. Gallon, claimed in 1946 that in 1920 he met a Russian fur-trapper that claimed to have seen living giant, furry "elephants" deep into the taiga. Gallon added that the fur-trapper didn't have knowledge about mammoths before, and that he talked about the mammoths as a forest-animal at a time when they were seen as living on the tundra and snow (Sjogren, 1962). There was an alleged Soviet Air Force sighting during World War II, but this was not verified by a second sighting....

In modern times there had been reports of large unusual elephants in remote forested regions of Nepal. Two bull elephants were discovered, both being much larger than modern elephants, the largest of the two being around 3.7 meters at the shoulder and weighing roughly 7 tonnes.

The size alone makes them interesting, but what's odd is their appearance, as they have the characteristic sloped back of the mammoth with a twin domed head.

A report in 1992, by British explorer Sir John Blashford-Snell , contained further evidenc of these giant elephants. He was exploring a remote valley in the Bardia region of western Nepa. He found two examples of these strange elephants, both bulls, and observed and photographed them . The two giant elephants were said to have footprints measuring 22.5 inches across and a height 11 feet 3 inches. The presence of two very large domes on each elephant's forehead, and a distinctive nasal bridge was noted. These two features have only been seen before on an extinct species of primitive elephant, the Stegodont.

Scientists have taken an interest in the Nepalese elephants as they may be able to clone a mammoth :

Penn State biologists are in the process of studying the woolly mammoth genome from hair samples, the animal of the elephant genus mammuthus, thought to be extinct, but found in Nepal are small herds of giant elephants, about a foot taller than the asian elephants, and these nepal giants, very interestingly, have the same crowned cranium crests as the mammoths, not found in the asian and african elephants which are thought to be the only survivng genuses of animals, so since asian and african elephants can hybridize, and the asian elephants are said to be genetically very similar to the mammoth, we can expect the biological capability for hybridization of certainly the nepalese elephant, and probably the asian elephant, with a clone from the recovered mammoth genes, should such a creature be made in the laboratory.

It is thought mammoths died out at the end of the last Ice Age. A definitive explanation for their mass extinction is still not decided. (N.B.The dwarf mammoths of Wrangel Island only became extinct around 1700 to 1500 BC). Various theories for their extinction include being hunted by humans, a disease or climate change

The survival of the dwarf mammoths on Russia's Wrangel Island was due to the fact that the island was very remote, and uninhabited in the early post-Pleistocene period.

The actual island was not discovered by modern civilization until the 1820s by American whalers. A similar dwarfing occurred with Mammoths on the outer Channel Islands of California, but at an earlier period....

The double crested head and distinct profile of the mammoth is alive and well in nepal. Could a furrier version of this still roam the wilds of Siberia? Even Alaska?

Bardia_Asian_elephant_zps014d44d1.jpg

Edited by SSilhouette

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With his great domed head and massive body it led the local villagers to believe that they had a mammoth in their midst. However research by eminent zoologist Prof Adrian Lister, who extracted DNA from his dung, showed that he was a type of Asian elephant.

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With his great domed head and massive body it led the local villagers to believe that they had a mammoth in their midst. However research by eminent zoologist Prof Adrian Lister, who extracted DNA from his dung, showed that he was a type of Asian elephant.

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And that asian elephants are related to mammoths. So? Your point concludes little. Look at the picture taken in the 1990s. How many indian elephants you see with a double crested head like a mammoth....like that one has?

Bardia_Asian_elephant_zps014d44d1.jpg

Here is an indian elephant normally. The crest isn't as high. Yet all the species of mammoth, nepalese giants and indian elephants share the small ears and crested heads to one degree or another. Mammoths and indians have a sloping back too where it looks like they're lower in the hind.

elephant1_zpse513bb5b.jpg

The African has very little if any cresting at the head and has huge ears of course to radiate heat away from their body. They also have "saddle backs" that sway in the middle and crest again up at the hip. Even they have been DNA tested as related to the mammoths.

elephant_zpsf2225692.jpg

Edited by SSilhouette

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