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Cancer Survivor Edie Littlefield Sundby .....

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Not a shred of compassion for her from Jay Carney.

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Edie Littlefield Sundby insisted in her article :

"My grievance is not political. All my energies are directed to enjoying life and staying alive and i have no time for politics."

Michelle Malkin Article Here:

http://townhall.com/...actory-n1738770

It looks people are getting hurt by the ACA.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/obama-advisor-outrages-jab-cancer-victim-insurer-article-1.1507182

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Here is a good link to this story:

Link: http://www.dailymail...otty-tweet.html

Great ! Now the Edie Littlefield Sundby story has gone international. :tu:

Socialized Medicine has a few problems.

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I'm glad that the law will help people like her. Now, instead of being denied for a pre-existing condition, and footing all of the bill, many will be helped rather than denied.

By the way, those people on that MyCancellation.com have their heads where the sun don't shine. "I'm upset because my policy was garbage, and now it's cancelled so I can get better coverage at an affordable rate!" And from what I read on those plans posted there, they can get it for LESS than before, and have more coverage! They're upset over absolutely nothing.

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I'm glad that the law will help people like her. Now, instead of being denied for a pre-existing condition, and footing all of the bill, many will be helped rather than denied.

By the way, those people on that MyCancellation.com have their heads where the sun don't shine. "I'm upset because my policy was garbage, and now it's cancelled so I can get better coverage at an affordable rate!" And from what I read on those plans posted there, they can get it for LESS than before, and have more coverage! They're upset over absolutely nothing.

Edie Littlefield Sundby was pleased with the Health Care Plan that she had.

ObamaCare ripped it away after Obama told her " If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan."

White House Jay Carney didn't have a shred of compassion for her.

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Exit polls last night showed - intense opposition - to ObamaCare. I wonder why ???

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Socialized Medicine has a few problems.

Yes, the biggest problem is that what you're calling socialised medicine isn't socialised medicine.

It's a half-arsed attempt at it.

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Yes, the biggest problem is that what you're calling socialised medicine isn't socialised medicine.

It's a half-arsed attempt at it.

Socialized Medicine can be easily seen by its ripple effects. - Less Choice and Lower Level of Care -

The Secular Progressives made ObamaCare a mess on purpose. The goal is to create an environment where the American people

will just throw their hands up and - demand - something much simpler.

Oh ! Hey ! I heard that the Canadian Public Option is really simple! How does that sound America?

If you say yes, then you get a free I Love George Soros T Shirt !!!

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Socialized Medicine can be easily seen by its ripple effects. - Less Choice and Lower Level of Care -

Yes, given that Australia is a wasteland of no hospitals, suffering patients and no medicine or care.

The private hospital my brother works at is right next door to the public one. I'm lead to believe that this is quite common here, and it's LAW that there's a "base hospital" every few hundred kilometres (big place, Australia). There are four GP practices with multiple doctors in residence here in my relatively countrified hometown, not to mention a couple of single practices that are dotted around the place. As well as three chemists.

SHocking isn't it, that lack of care provided by a socialised medical system, I only wish I lived in America where I had to hope the hospital would take my money in order to treat me.

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Yes, given that Australia is a wasteland of no hospitals, suffering patients and no medicine or care.

The private hospital my brother works at is right next door to the public one. I'm lead to believe that this is quite common here, and it's LAW that there's a "base hospital" every few hundred kilometres (big place, Australia). There are four GP practices with multiple doctors in residence here in my relatively countrified hometown, not to mention a couple of single practices that are dotted around the place. As well as three chemists.

SHocking isn't it, that lack of care provided by a socialised medical system, I only wish I lived in America where I had to hope the hospital would take my money in order to treat me.

Socialized Medicine is not working out very well in Great Britain and Canada.

- Rationing -

I also see that Australia is blessed with a very small total population for a very LARGE nation. Not so many people to wait in line.

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Socialized Medicine is not working out very well in Great Britain and Canada.

No, it's not working there because of a number of reasons.

Not getting support from the right wing government.

People rorting the system left, right and centre.

Better pay in the private system.

Governments trying to run hospitals as moneymaking exercises (and thus closing clinics that "don't earn enough").

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I'm glad that the law will help people like her. Now, instead of being denied for a pre-existing condition, and footing all of the bill, many will be helped rather than denied.

By the way, those people on that MyCancellation.com have their heads where the sun don't shine. "I'm upset because my policy was garbage, and now it's cancelled so I can get better coverage at an affordable rate!" And from what I read on those plans posted there, they can get it for LESS than before, and have more coverage! They're upset over absolutely nothing.

You must not have read the article...

Her previous insurance, covered all her cancer treatments and top hospitals. Now, she is without insurance, and the hospitals she needs to go to are not accepted by them on the Obamacare exchanges. Most likely, she's going to have to pick a different private insurance plan, and pay a lot more....

How is this helping her??

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Aren't there hundreds of these articles all over the internet? Every town has people who have been basically... killed... by Obamacare. This lady will be lucky if she can get treatment any more.

What I thought was funny (Well, not really Funny, like ha-ha-ha) was that people like this lady who get very basic or specialized coverage could very well have expensive insurance (Due to pre-existing conditions and such) that qualifies them into the Cadillac level of insurance, and thus they will be slammed by that 40% extra charge. Sad....

And you just know that the $27,000 or whatever it is, that is considered Cadillac is going to go down when the bills start piling up. 25,000 then 20,000 then 15,000... Where will the Cadillac level stop? Eventually it will "Even out" everyone to some crappy level. Much like in China when the Communists took over and killed the nobles, educated and rich... to make everyone Equal. Equally mundane. Equally poor.

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You must not have read the article...

Her previous insurance, covered all her cancer treatments and top hospitals. Now, she is without insurance, and the hospitals she needs to go to are not accepted by them on the Obamacare exchanges. Most likely, she's going to have to pick a different private insurance plan, and pay a lot more....

How is this helping her??

No, I wasn't referring to her. I meant it in a context of, all who had a pre existing condition, such as cancer in some instances, can no longer be denied coverage.

As for her story, if it's true, I think that it certainly wouldn't help her any. If someone gets dropped who has a severe illness, and liked what they had they should get to keep it until things get worked out. That is, if they want to keep it.

I've heard that some plans get grandfathered in on certain instances. Can someone explain this to me, and how does that work?

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No, I wasn't referring to her. I meant it in a context of, all who had a pre existing condition, such as cancer in some instances, can no longer be denied coverage.

As for her story, if it's true, I think that it certainly wouldn't help her any. If someone gets dropped who has a severe illness, and liked what they had they should get to keep it until things get worked out. That is, if they want to keep it.

I've heard that some plans get grandfathered in on certain instances. Can someone explain this to me, and how does that work?

And we needed a crushing federal bureaucracy like Obamacare to mandate something like preexisting condition coverage?

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No, it's not working there because of a number of reasons.

Not getting support from the right wing government.

People rorting the system left, right and centre.

Better pay in the private system.

Governments trying to run hospitals as moneymaking exercises (and thus closing clinics that "don't earn enough").

Don't forget --- overpopulation ---.

The British have a 2 Tier Health Care System.

- 1) Boutique Practices for the rich : Pay Cash $$$

- 2) Everybody Else : Take a number and good luck

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And we needed a crushing federal bureaucracy like Obamacare to mandate something like preexisting condition coverage?

Oh! You stumbled onto the truth. We can switch back to the old health care system and then focus on just the Preexisting Condition problem.

There was no reason to turn the entire U.S. Health Care System upside down and into chaos.

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Aren't there hundreds of these articles all over the internet? Every town has people who have been basically... killed... by Obamacare. This lady will be lucky if she can get treatment any more.

What I thought was funny (Well, not really Funny, like ha-ha-ha) was that people like this lady who get very basic or specialized coverage could very well have expensive insurance (Due to pre-existing conditions and such) that qualifies them into the Cadillac level of insurance, and thus they will be slammed by that 40% extra charge. Sad....

And you just know that the $27,000 or whatever it is, that is considered Cadillac is going to go down when the bills start piling up. 25,000 then 20,000 then 15,000... Where will the Cadillac level stop? Eventually it will "Even out" everyone to some crappy level. Much like in China when the Communists took over and killed the nobles, educated and rich... to make everyone Equal. Equally mundane. Equally poor.

Equally Mundane, Equally Poor = Fair Shared Misery from sea to shining sea

Is that the kind of America you want to live in ?

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Here is a good link to this story:

Link: http://www.dailymail...otty-tweet.html

Edie Sundby appeared on Fox News with Megyn Kelly. Edie called the White House - absurd and condescending -.

Did ObamaCare just pull the plug on grandma ?

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And we needed a crushing federal bureaucracy like Obamacare to mandate something like preexisting condition coverage?

If it wasn't functioning like that before, then yes.

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If it wasn't functioning like that before, then yes.

No. ObamaCare just made everything worse.

It was designed to create Chaos.

Chaos is part of the Master Plan.

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No. ObamaCare just made everything worse.

It was designed to create Chaos.

Chaos is part of the Master Plan.

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It is only designed for chaos by those who see nothing but chaos, and will go to any length to make themselves, as well as others, believe that.

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Chaos: Making $50k a year and owing $55k in debt, how can one stop the expenses of life to pay that kind of balance off?

Should I find a nice one-room studio apartment with a full shower in the bathroom and scrape and push until the balance is paid? Should I give the best years of my life to my debt and be a debt slave? Of course not! There must a better way...

So then, what to do...

Go borrow endlessly from God, the lender of last resort? Go down in the basement and print more currency? If my representatives represented me, I would have already been doing these things long before them.

But the magic liberal money never helps people like that. It helps the banksters and the fat cats on Wall St, but apparently the liberals hoped that the money will trickle down?

Someone should talk with these anti-capitalism leftists of the Occupy and Michael Moore stripe and ask them why they support Obama's corporate welfare. Why the hell is it okay when Obama does it? Where'd the protests go? Moore assured us they were only just beginning...did the Occupy movement lose relevance when it became clear that what these people were really protesting against was their own government?

I'm going to ask a very Coulteresque question: Why is it only okay to focus on the 15% when the liberals say so?

What if 15% of Americans wanted to have the right to bear arms and 85% of Americans didn't, Libs?

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Chaos: Making $50k a year and owing $55k in debt, how can one stop the expenses of life to pay that kind of balance off?

Should I find a nice one-room studio apartment with a full shower in the bathroom and scrape and push until the balance is paid? Should I give the best years of my life to my debt and be a debt slave? Of course not! There must a better way...

So then, what to do...

Go borrow endlessly from God, the lender of last resort? Go down in the basement and print more currency? If my representatives represented me, I would have already been doing these things long before them.

But the magic liberal money never helps people like that. It helps the banksters and the fat cats on Wall St, but apparently the liberals hoped that the money will trickle down?

Someone should talk with these anti-capitalism leftists of the Occupy and Michael Moore stripe and ask them why they support Obama's corporate welfare. Why the hell is it okay when Obama does it? Where'd the protests go? Moore assured us they were only just beginning...did the Occupy movement lose relevance when it became clear that what these people were really protesting against was their own government?

I'm going to ask a very Coulteresque question: Why is it only okay to focus on the 15% when the liberals say so?

What if 15% of Americans wanted to have the right to bear arms and 85% of Americans didn't, Libs?

It all depends on what you're in debt for. If you're in debt 55,000$ because you had to foot a huge hospital bill because you were denied insurance, well that wouldn't be good, would it? This example I've just stated can now be stopped from the ACA.

As far as the 15% thing, if it's helping all 100% in one form or another, then where is the negative in that? Even if their plan was dropped. Even if they think they're losing "freedom."

When it's a few years down the road, and all of the ACA is worked out and functioning properly, many many people will be eating their words. And it won't be those who were for it. Guaranteed.

By the way, I agree with the majority of your post, but just thought I'd throw that little rant in.

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Equally Mundane, Equally Poor = Fair Shared Misery from sea to shining sea

Is that the kind of America you want to live in ?

Not me brother....

I do agree with Andy that some kind of legislation had to be done for Pre-existing conditions, but that alone did not require a total government hand grab.

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Not me brother....

I do agree with Andy that some kind of legislation had to be done for Pre-existing conditions, but that alone did not require a total government hand grab.

The problem goes much deeper than that though. Lets say you had a health insurance plan which covers some certain things. Then you get sick in whatever form, and you find out your insurance doesn't cover your current ailment. You have two options at that point: A. Foot the entire bill by yourself, or: B. walk out the door and live with your ailment. Neither of those sound proper to me. The health insurance system was flawed in that way, and the only way to fix it was to pass baseline standards for all, with nobody being denied, and no denial for pre-existing conditions. This required a huge overhaul, and that overhaul is the ACA. Not to mention the companies themselves dictated what was pre-existing or not, based on whether you had enough cash to pay for it. Corruption is what brought the healthcare system down.

Sure you could just fix the pre-existing condition problem, but with no baseline standards, they could focus on your new ailment and say that it's not covered on your plan, and force you to pay it all yourself.

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