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Boring old hagg

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So this is from my blog, but I thought it worthy of posting here.

A few nights ago me and Ms. Old hag of sleep paralysis did a round of a little altered state cage fighting on my wall..... Yup I said it on my wall.

It started with me sitting up recognizing something was odd. Then I quickly realized I was OOB. Yet something was pulling me off the bed. I have been through this before, so I simply was amused at what ever had grabbed my leg and was pulling on me. I looked but I couldn't see anything. I looked around the room but nothing. As I sat up on the edge of the bes with my feet dangling off the pulling stoped.

I said " What?.... Do you want me to be afraid? I'm not 8 anymore. You are going to have to do better than that."

I dangled my feet off the bed challenging any kind of cheesy horror movie occurances. Although I know now or i guess i have always known where kids get this stuff. Weather it's an entity or the entity of ourselves in a deep collective conciousness archetype playing off fears, it knows how to get a reaction. It has in ancient Navajo ledgends to ancient Chinese manuscripts to us today. . it's been at this game for a very long time.

I looked around a bit then layed back in my body all the whike knowing this wasn't over yet. I opened my eyes and then closed them again and went back into an altered state on purpose. I wanted to get it over with and go back the the other worlds of dreams I have.

As soon as I was altered I felt her. She was under the blankets with me crawling up my body. I know this sounds unbearably creepy to others, but honestly Im amused by things like this now. It's a bit of a game for me. I almost enjoy it like watching a good horror movie. I have battled and faught with so many things in my dreams and these particular scenarios so many times its almost run of the mill.

When she was on top of me and poking her head out of the covers, I could see her badly contorted face right next to mine. Still I was not afraid. Just a little annoyed. I told her " space ..you better give me some space".

She diddint, she started to do something with her hands, but I did not let her. I locked my legs around her in a jujitsu guard and dug my fingers into her ribs. Then with my will I flung both of us up into the air and I pinned her on my wall as if the wall were the floor.

Thinking perfectly clear and logical I thought this would be a great opportunity to study the infamous "Old Hag". My hands were dug into her and glowing thru her body slightly. She put up a resistance but she was no match for me. I took one hand out and grabbed her face and locked eyes with her. Nothing there. Just emptiness. Not emptiness like in a clique evil way.... I mean nothing. There is no soul in her. I felt like I was messing around with a stuffed animal. No more interesting or scary than a teddy bear.

I said "come on really?.... Nothing?"

I then let the white fire in my hands exsplod into her/it until it was gone.

I laied on my wall for a second contemplating. It certainly does not seem like a real entity to me. At least not an intelligent one. Maybe a mindless parasite of some sort? I don't know.... But anyone reading this haveing a problem with this thing needs to know its harmless, though I suppose that that is a lesson earned and cannot be given.

What a strange and wacky life I live.

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I had a experience with an old hag once when i was 10 or a little older maybe 12ish? Funny thing is when i had the experience i found myself laying on my back when it happened. But perhaps the old hag is a parasite of sorts. Since it needs to feed off of the Nightmare Dreams to gain energy. Is the Old Hag a routine experience for you? If it is you should try recording yourself when you sleep and see if there is anything paranormal going on. Example Objects moving when no one is around etc.,

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I had a experience with an old hag once when i was 10 or a little older maybe 12ish? Funny thing is when i had the experience i found myself laying on my back when it happened. But perhaps the old hag is a parasite of sorts. Since it needs to feed off of the Nightmare Dreams to gain energy. Is the Old Hag a routine experience for you? If it is you should try recording yourself when you sleep and see if there is anything paranormal going on. Example Objects moving when no one is around etc.,

SP used to be an issue a long time ago, until I learned how to control altered states of consciousness. Now it's a bit of a curiosity. I have even written a few things to try to help people over come it.

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My "old hag" may be a common condition called sciatica. In my sleep the pain in my hip and leg can get so bad I sit up in my paralysis (sitting or standing in my particular version of the condition brings relief). Now I am still asleep and still paralyzed, but now sitting on the edge of the bed. It's scary to see me because I am quite stiff (back and neck and arms).

Of course I dream the pain and I dream the sitting up as my dreams are just conscious enough to allow this, and I remember it all the next day, including not being able to move except to sit up and later when the pain subsides to lie down. It's a helplessness that I think scares people.

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I think mine was better looking... :lol:

I laied on my wall for a second contemplating. It certainly does not seem like a real entity to me. At least not an intelligent one. Maybe a mindless parasite of some sort? I don't know.... But anyone reading this haveing a problem with this thing needs to know its harmless, though I suppose that that is a lesson earned and cannot be given.

What a strange and wacky life I live.

That is exactly the first impression I got with my recent encounter. that it was a parasite and parasitic in nature..

The other impression I got from my encounter was that it could have been sent to me, (like an assassin) well, err, more like a meter reader or tax collector really.. Come to tap into my energy and take what didn't belong.. I guess, if you view these types of entities in some kind of astral hierarchy, they'd be lower order minions I suppose, which kind of makes sense when you think about it because old hags are more well known and more often seen an experienced than their real masters.. Nice analogy being that we see parking wardens every day, but never see their boss. :unsure:

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I think mine was better looking... :lol:

That is exactly the first impression I got with my recent encounter. that it was a parasite and parasitic in nature..

The other impression I got from my encounter was that it could have been sent to me, (like an assassin) well, err, more like a meter reader or tax collector really.. Come to tap into my energy and take what didn't belong.. I guess, if you view these types of entities in some kind of astral hierarchy, they'd be lower order minions I suppose, which kind of makes sense when you think about it because old hags are more well known and more often seen an experienced than their real masters.. Nice analogy being that we see parking wardens every day, but never see their boss. :unsure:

Another way you can look at it is a prod or a push. It really was this "entity" that p***ed me off enough to start fighting back. without it I'm not sure I woukd have what I have now. Conquering it, overcoming it, even controlling it have been important steps for me. I teach martial arts, and throwing difficult obstacles in the paths of my students is the only way to create experience and create evolution of their thought processes. Could the hag ( or its other manifestations) be a training tool? It seems like it would be harsh, but in truth the animal that we are is ruled and controlled by fear. I don't know of a single story from Jesus to Mohammad, Native American shaman to Hindu holy men ( real ones) that do not have the theme of faceing "demons" and over coming them. My favorite story is siddartha grounding himself with the earth in the face of the demon hordes of Mara. Or Jesus faceing the devil in the desert and casting demons out of others.

One time I woke up with claws latched onto my leggs. I reached down with my mind and took control of them and made them massage my feet. I fell back asleep chuckling at myself.

Shaman are said to have control over demons, and our dogmatic brothers and sisters would say in in league with the devil. Which isn't true of course.

I'm just saying there is an ancient process at work here. It's not just shadow, it's not just a astral ecology. If I were going to try and help humanity evolve consciously I would need a method that addressed their fearful nature and and forced them to give it up.

Fear is our greatest obstacle and weakness. It's responsible for all the evil that we are capable of and all the retardation of our potential. If I were a force in the spirit world trying to help humanity or a person, it would be the absolute first thing I would address in any kind of awakening.

Occasionally the local Wiccan group calls me up with someone who is suffering terribly from SP. I go through the standard medical questions and always recommend sleep study's etc etc. but then the first thing I tell them is that they are a very blessed person. They are a little shocked to hear that, but it opens them up and amazing changes occur once they realize it.

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I think mine was better looking... :lol:

That is exactly the first impression I got with my recent encounter. that it was a parasite and parasitic in nature..

The other impression I got from my encounter was that it could have been sent to me, (like an assassin) well, err, more like a meter reader or tax collector really.. Come to tap into my energy and take what didn't belong..

No that doesn't happen. Lets make no mistake about it, taking energy is stealing and intruding on personal space without invitation is aggressive behaviour/intention -- it's universally recognised as such. Friendly / benevolent / light beings will never do that to one another.

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thanks for clarifying that.

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No that doesn't happen. Lets make no mistake about it, taking energy is stealing and intruding on personal space without invitation is aggressive behaviour/intention -- it's universally recognised as such. Friendly / benevolent / light beings will never do that to one another.

They are welcome to my excess energy. Otherwise it goes to fat.

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thanks for clarifying that.

The subject of energy stealing is a sort of grey area and not be confused with mutual energy exchange which happens naturally under certain circumstances and has healing modality to it - I'm talking implicitly in regards to these kind of predatory parasites, if they were only a mere lesson / stage and nothing else i don't understand why i spend the majority of my time pulling out their hooks/cords and then cleaning, repairing and resetting my own and others systems from the damage. It's a constant maintenance upkeep in my perspective. I see some really odd things that attach to various layers of a persons field and i have seen them in animals as well.

The thing is the higher in perspective you go, the more obvious it becomes that on some level there is no such thing as stealing energy because everyone has a connection to the infinite source. If every being came from that level of knowing and without resistance, then we would have infinite everything on tap. No hoarding, no stock piling, no fighting or holding. The trouble is we don't operate by these logics, so we self determine in our own dimension (as a collective) that everything has a shelf life or limit, including our own lifespan lol, we do it to ourselves or our programming insures it ( aka the matrix ). The other thing is these parasites operate maybe by even more stringent logics because they are cut off from source by choice (service to self dictates that evolutionary line eventually) They don't have the energy themselves to maintain what they need so they have to take it and use others to create it for them. Its true they can teach us a lot about energy and the mechanics but, where they cross the line is in altering or using techniques to block the natural mutual exchange of energy, so that the energy taking benefits one way only and this begins to unbalance the life force of the being being targeted and causes the kind of pain and issues you had experienced, rather than allowing the energy exchange to flow in abundance for all. It's what mirrors the mentality at the end of the day, sts = self first even at the expense of harming others versus sto = the realisation that harming another is essentially harming yourself. The universal law of "harm no one" gives a good clue. We are like milking cows to them.

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Ill keep blasting them then.

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I just LOVE the way that, when you are fully lucid and conscious while asleep, you can do ANYTHING. And how, while you are aware you are dreaming, you know there are no consequences, but also you know you can experiment with, and succeed at, any thing you can imagine without risk of harm to anyone..

.I've never experienced sleep paralysis but even after 60 years the world of my dreams is fascinating for me. I particularly like identifying the sometimes very small events in real life which come up in dreams, and how they are symbolically represented in the dreamscape. Once, I identified at least half a dozen minor triggers from my mundane life which became major scenes in one dream. They came from the television/movies I had been watching, what i had been reading, from my internal conscious thoughts, and from events occurring through out the day.

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This last experience prompted me to get started on something I have been wanting to do. This is my first project. I started a blog where I will be posting as well.

http://youtu.be/vsUAfMg5s_s

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This last experience prompted me to get started on something I have been wanting to do. This is my first project. I started a blog where I will be posting as well.

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This is awesome, i love the whole concept with the white board. wow you are a very talented sketcher :tu:

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This is awesome, i love the whole concept with the white board. wow you are a very talented sketcher :tu:

Hehehe its not me. It's a really cool program I have for marketing projects that bypasses the need to really do it. I'm working with several other concepts also. It's the latest thing in marketing. It's been a bit if an obsession lately but I'm trying to corner a few things before it gets over done.

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This last experience prompted me to get started on something I have been wanting to do. This is my first project. I started a blog where I will be posting as well.

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Great video

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This last experience prompted me to get started on something I have been wanting to do. This is my first project. I started a blog where I will be posting as well.

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Way cool.. :tu:

Am curious.. Recently you had a heaviness or some-kind of constriction of the arms while using a program on a laptop.. Am wondering, if the program that made this is one & the same?

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Way cool.. :tu:

Am curious.. Recently you had a heaviness or some-kind of constriction of the arms while using a program on a laptop.. Am wondering, if the program that made this is one & the same?

Me? Not this one.

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Way cool.. :tu:

Am curious.. Recently you had a heaviness or some-kind of constriction of the arms while using a program on a laptop.. Am wondering, if the program that made this is one & the same?

Now I remember what you are talking about, the thing at Starbucks...... No I was not working with this program then.

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Now I remember what you are talking about, the thing at Starbucks...... No I was not working with this program then.

Wait... I may have been. I was working with a lot if spreadsheets then to. Crap. I can't remember. I think maybe yes. If I said something in the post about working with a "new program, then yes. But I was probably working on accounting also ;)

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Wait... I may have been. I was working with a lot if spreadsheets then to. Crap. I can't remember. I think maybe yes. If I said something in the post about working with a "new program, then yes. But I was probably working on accounting also ;)

Yeah, there was a reference to working on something new that you thought would solve a lot of problems & take a pet project off to some new avenue or direction.. well, that's what I gleaned anyway.. Then some-kind of heaviness or restriction of the arms occurred.. At the time I thought "hmmm, there's something hidden in the program, something restrictive. (one way of looking at it) but maybe, it was a feeling of channeling paralysis, a reference to this video.. dunno really.. these are just thoughts..

There's a synchronicity here for me though.. Because this Program that created this cool vid is linked to another video that I saw (probably made with the same program) that I'm sure was created with brainwashing in-mind.. This other video had a ebb & flow Method of delivering info, am darned if I can find it to show what I mean, but in my mind is was manipulating at a subtle level by hinting at giving information then withdrawing and going off on other tangents that approached the same core info.. It was subtle, subliminal, but potent enough to effect my dreams..

Anyway... Before I allow myself to go way off topic, I'll just point out that it's interesting that there is a dark-side and a light-side to just about everything there is. it's how you perceive and the depth one delves.. Kind of makes one wonder that if a Vid could be made with the same subtle & subliminal methods that it's intention could be to actually create Sleep Paralysis, OBE, ect..

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Yeah, there was a reference to working on something new that you thought would solve a lot of problems & take a pet project off to some new avenue or direction.. well, that's what I gleaned anyway.. Then some-kind of heaviness or restriction of the arms occurred.. At the time I thought "hmmm, there's something hidden in the program, something restrictive. (one way of looking at it) but maybe, it was a feeling of channeling paralysis, a reference to this video.. dunno really.. these are just thoughts..

There's a synchronicity here for me though.. Because this Program that created this cool vid is linked to another video that I saw (probably made with the same program) that I'm sure was created with brainwashing in-mind.. This other video had a ebb & flow Method of delivering info, am darned if I can find it to show what I mean, but in my mind is was manipulating at a subtle level by hinting at giving information then withdrawing and going off on other tangents that approached the same core info.. It was subtle, subliminal, but potent enough to effect my dreams..

Anyway... Before I allow myself to go way off topic, I'll just point out that it's interesting that there is a dark-side and a light-side to just about everything there is. it's how you perceive and the depth one delves.. Kind of makes one wonder that if a Vid could be made with the same subtle & subliminal methods that it's intention could be to actually create Sleep Paralysis, OBE, ect..

Hmmm yes im remembering what I was working on now, (sorry brain fart there). Yes I was using this program, but was working on a presentation for my business. Its a presentation program that allows you to visually, musically, and verbally convey your message. That's why its so powerful. The intent of the presenter will indeed be amplified. the angle of view and the use of hands that seem to actually come from you gives the impression to your brain that you are the one presenting. This is the closest anything can come to activating kinetic learning centers. I could easily create a white board presentation that could induce and altered state of consciousness. Maybe, I will. A man that is a priest for a religion very similar to voodoo shared with me their altered state power symbol with a specific request not to share it. He allowed me to see it, because he felt that if it launched me into the spirit world I would be able to take care of myself. I could use some of those elements without violating his trust. Ill give it a shot eventually. The problem is the length of time youtube videos allow. Ill need a video about 20 mins long. Ill include shamanic drumming and spirit lute cues. sounds like fun.

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It wasnt untill my Daughter told me about her SP experiences that I myself experienced the same but the first time I didnt know it was some Parasitice entity as I devolved into another dreamscape that hijacked the SP I was having but later on I found that it came as another type of hijacking, this time by a beautiful petite woman with long black or dark red hair who took me on an inter D voyage.

Then not long ago I was accosted by an inemical entity and was so angered that I scared the bejeesus out of it.

Parasitic is acurate and dead is too as exploring these critters showed me they were responsible for creating the so called matrix system in order to enslave us as a food source, specifically fear driven and the overmind we have is in fact their own thought processes which is how we are enslaved.

It gives new meaning for me for the old adage, 'The first thought is Gods, the next is the Devils', in other words the first thought is your own but the next is the overmind! or more explicitly, intuition followed by reason....

I find it odd that you keep having experiences like this as 2 or 3 times should be enougth to throw off the entity that has clainmed you as their own as I thought there was only one for each mind but maybe there are more as a lot of folks have cottoned onto them and are throwing them off too in their own way so they zoom in on the next likely candidate... maybe....

So what I am saying is that not all SP experiences can be attributted to parasites...

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Not that my experience counts for much except as another item of data. I have always had this sleep paralysis for a second or so whenever I wake up. It isn't much, and quickly goes away, and you are right that it doesn't seem to paralyze the eyes.

My dreams are generally lucid, but I don't try to control them except to force waking up if they get scary or something like that (such as wandering into a war zone). No parasites or demons or anything along those lines. I just walk or float around some nice place, sometimes riding something (elephants are my favorite, but also birds or cobras or of course horses), and seeing the sights and greeting others. Even though I know I'm safe in bed I still don't like to get up too far in the sky.

After my wife died I dreamed a lot of being lost in some big city or some forest or something like that, and I didn't interfere as I thought this was working it all out and I should let the dream go. I still would always wake up anyway before "finding" anything.

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Not that my experience counts for much except as another item of data. I have always had this sleep paralysis for a second or so whenever I wake up. It isn't much, and quickly goes away, and you are right that it doesn't seem to paralyze the eyes.

My dreams are generally lucid, but I don't try to control them except to force waking up if they get scary or something like that (such as wandering into a war zone). No parasites or demons or anything along those lines. I just walk or float around some nice place, sometimes riding something (elephants are my favorite, but also birds or cobras or of course horses), and seeing the sights and greeting others. Even though I know I'm safe in bed I still don't like to get up too far in the sky.

After my wife died I dreamed a lot of being lost in some big city or some forest or something like that, and I didn't interfere as I thought this was working it all out and I should let the dream go. I still would always wake upr anyway before "finding" anything.

Yep the lost in a big city is a recurring dream of mine Last night my cousin drove of after I got out of the car and left me in an unknown location in Adelaide. I used the shadows to work out where north was then tied to work my way to the far north of the city where my cousin lives walking through the night and into the day. As I real life I don't know her address but could find my way there.

I had many exciting adventures along the way. I know Adelaide well and most of the dreamscape was entirely imaginary. For example, in one scene, I was riding cut wood from a lumber mill down a canal designed to transport it. In another, the highway was so busy that there was a virtual wall of traffic whizzing along it It was a fun adventure and I met many interesting characters along the way; but I also wonder why I have this type of dream so regularly( At least two or three times a week.). I think it represents a realisation that I need a greater purpose in my life as I face retirement from a working life, and that one can work through any situation one finds themselves in by strategizing and logic.

Unlike you, I have always enjoyed high flying, and if I get too bored with a dream usually just lift off and fly several hundred kilometres or more to come home. (if I don't just transpose myself out of the dreamscape and into another.)

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