Popular Post +OverSword Posted November 20, 2013 Popular Post #1 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Information is gathered for a purpose. We attend school, gain knowledge and acquire employment. We gather knowledge about someone we are dating and then make a decision about the future of the relationship. When the government is gathering information on us which goes beyond the basic census information, then we should be asking a lot of questions along the lines of “When will the surveillance gathering being conducted by the NSA turn into outright persecution”? The Unmistakable Pattern of Tyranny Every advancing tyranny has two distinct stages. In the first stage, the “enemies” of the state are identified. Lists are created and distributed among law enforcement. These lists are often leaked to the public to serve as a deterrent against any thoughts of engaging in anti-government behavior. There is typically a prolonged period of demonization followed by formal labeling. History is replete with examples when surveillance gathering turns into labeling followed by outright persecution. In fact, I cannot think of an accurate historical example of when a country engaged in a police state surveillance grid, did not eventually victimize a significant number of its own citizens. In the second stage of tyranny, the identified groups are singled out for “corrective” action. Corrective action usually commences on an incremental basis. Following identification, enemies of the state are usually singled out for employment discrimination, travel restrictions, residency restrictions and then the inevitable incarcerations and worse begin to transpire. This pattern happens every time following the establishment of a police state in America. America does indeed meet the denotation of a police state according to the dictionary. po-lice state Noun A totalitarian state controlled by a political police force that secretly supervises the citizens’ activities. Once this process begins, the advancement of tyrannical persecution of the people is inevitable without a revolution. The whole process begins with unwarranted surveillance The rest of the article here: http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/11/20/america-has-entered-a-new-level-of-tyranny/ So what do you think? Have we reached a new level of tyranny? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted November 20, 2013 #2 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Beware of governments with enemies. I think we can describe our society these days in different ways that put us on a higher level of tyranny, yes. Good article. I don't think the author overstated the threat: "We are one false flag event away from absolute tyranny, followed by the imposition of martial law. We are all in a lot of danger." 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted November 20, 2013 #3 Share Posted November 20, 2013 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted November 20, 2013 #4 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Beware of governments with enemies. I'd be more worried about a government without an enemy, because they'll be looking for one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted November 20, 2013 #5 Share Posted November 20, 2013 But at least he smiles at you while he is doing so..... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted November 20, 2013 #6 Share Posted November 20, 2013 As far as it goes, he makes some valid points. Sadly, though, later on he goes on into rambling about FEMA Camps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted November 20, 2013 #7 Share Posted November 20, 2013 As far as it goes, he makes some valid points. Sadly, though, later on he goes on into rambling about FEMA Camps. may be it is true. what makes you 100% sure they don't exist? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted November 20, 2013 #8 Share Posted November 20, 2013 'Police State" ? I question the validity of that statement. A few bad cops does NOT indicate a "Police State" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted November 20, 2013 #9 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I'd be more worried about a government without an enemy, because they'll be looking for one. It's time we stopped letting governments have free rein in determining who our enemies are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunn Posted November 20, 2013 #10 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Makes me think of the movie Enemy of the State. Doesn't seem so unbelievable to me now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green_dude777 Posted November 20, 2013 #11 Share Posted November 20, 2013 'Police State" ? I question the validity of that statement. A few bad cops does NOT indicate a "Police State" Where did you read the claim of a police state because of "a few bad cops"? The article is about agencies and programs, I didn't see a mention about a few cops. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted November 20, 2013 #12 Share Posted November 20, 2013 he didn't read article, he just looked at the pic, lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted November 20, 2013 Author #13 Share Posted November 20, 2013 'Police State" ? I question the validity of that statement. A few bad cops does NOT indicate a "Police State" Did you read the article. This isn't about bad cops, it's about government. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Buzzkill Posted November 20, 2013 #14 Share Posted November 20, 2013 'Police State" ? I question the validity of that statement. A few bad cops does NOT indicate a "Police State" No. Meeting the dictionary definition of "police state" indicates a police state 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praetorian-legio XIII Posted November 20, 2013 #15 Share Posted November 20, 2013 cops are the least of our worries; its the federal forces (FEMA DHS TSA ect) that we have to worry about. I believe as others do that we are in fact closer to martial law than not. and people that state that it is only one false flag op away may be right. I've heard rumblings that the next false flag op will involve a large power black out, like the entire east coast grid off line. off topic but a question: Anyone heard anything about our mail boxes being labelled with little round red, blue or yellow stickers? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundew Posted November 20, 2013 #16 Share Posted November 20, 2013 All I know is I have not seen much lately that would cause me TO trust government. When they pass bills without reading them. When they try to take over a huge section (1/6) of our economy (health care) with an ill conceived, poorly executed plan, that comes between me and my doctor and my insurance company. When they can't pass a budget as mandated by the Constitution. When they lie to our face, manipulate figures, grant wavers to friends and punish political enemies. When they stretch our military to the breaking point with endless wars. When scandal after scandal becomes an almost daily occurrence. No, I don't trust them, and we were never meant to have such an over-reaching bureaucratic Federal Government. Our Founders tried to warn us about tyranny, yet it seems to loom ever closer. Like David Bowie sang, "Beware the savage jaws, of 1984." Sometimes it seems Orwell only had the date wrong. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted November 20, 2013 #17 Share Posted November 20, 2013 cops are the least of our worries; its the federal forces (FEMA DHS TSA ect) that we have to worry about. I believe as others do that we are in fact closer to martial law than not. and people that state that it is only one false flag op away may be right. I've heard rumblings that the next false flag op will involve a large power black out, like the entire east coast grid off line. off topic but a question: Anyone heard anything about our mail boxes being labelled with little round red, blue or yellow stickers? The first false flag has been pased and nothing happened same as the 2nd one, this was about a week ago. thats the problem when you have free speech you can listen to anyone or write about anything. I think ths stickers is to do with the area post code, ie yellow would be from 664-768 or red 768-900 im just spitballing but thats what i think, I have seen something simular on rubbish bins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted November 20, 2013 Author #18 Share Posted November 20, 2013 cops are the least of our worries; its the federal forces (FEMA DHS TSA ect) that we have to worry about. I believe as others do that we are in fact closer to martial law than not. and people that state that it is only one false flag op away may be right. I've heard rumblings that the next false flag op will involve a large power black out, like the entire east coast grid off line. off topic but a question: Anyone heard anything about our mail boxes being labelled with little round red, blue or yellow stickers? Yes I have heard that is giving quick reference to the prescence of firearms at the home. They also mentioned you may want to give your mailbox a quick once over with a black light.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted November 20, 2013 Author #19 Share Posted November 20, 2013 The first false flag has been pased and nothing happened same as the 2nd one, this was about a week ago. thats the problem when you have free speech you can listen to anyone or write about anything. I think ths stickers is to do with the area post code, ie yellow would be from 664-768 or red 768-900 im just spitballing but thats what i think, I have seen something simular on rubbish bins False flags would not be scheduled for your convenience Richard. So despite you implying that false flags don't exist because some ones guess of when one may occur was wrong should not indicate that one would never happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not So Common Sense Posted November 20, 2013 #20 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Absolutely! The "police state" may not be on the same level as some in the past but one does not fall off a cliff all at once, it takes many small steps. When it has been ruled constitutional for law enforcement to lie, manipulate, coerce, threaten, and intimidate the citizens we have started taking those small steps. Citizens have no legitimate expectation of privacy while in public, including the internet; we are well on our way towards that cliff. I'm not against the police; I'm just afraid of them. - Alfred Hitchcock 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted November 21, 2013 #21 Share Posted November 21, 2013 When it has been ruled constitutional for law enforcement to lie, manipulate, coerce, threaten, and intimidate the citizens They probably figured, "Well if it works in Sharia Law, we can make it work too.". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted November 21, 2013 #22 Share Posted November 21, 2013 off topic but a question: Anyone heard anything about our mail boxes being labelled with little round red, blue or yellow stickers? Yes I have heard that is giving quick reference to the prescence of firearms at the home. They also mentioned you may want to give your mailbox a quick once over with a black light.. I'd have thought that was to identify which political Party you support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted November 21, 2013 #23 Share Posted November 21, 2013 False flags would not be scheduled for your convenience Richard. So despite you implying that false flags don't exist because some ones guess of when one may occur was wrong should not indicate that one would never happen. So instead because one was shown wrong proves to you they happen all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted November 21, 2013 #24 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Homes are routinely marked whether the occupant is a soft touch or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babe Ruth Posted November 21, 2013 #25 Share Posted November 21, 2013 As the late Bob Bowman observed, if they have nothing to hide, why are they hiding everything? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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