seeder Posted November 21, 2013 #1 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Women 'held as slaves for 30 years' Three women have been "rescued" from a house in south London as police investigate claims they were held as slaves for about 30 years. Police arrested two suspects, a 67-year-old man and a 67-year-old woman. Last month officers were contacted by Freedom Charity after it received a call from a woman saying she had been held against her will for decades. A Malaysian woman, 69, an Irish woman, 57, and a British woman, 30, were all rescued from the house, police said. The women, who are said to be "highly traumatised", are now in safe accommodation. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25040741 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-C Posted November 22, 2013 #2 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Sick! Thirty years?!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 22, 2013 #3 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) "A 67-year-old man and woman were held in Lambeth and bailed until January. Police said the two people arrested were not British nationals" Quelle surprire !! Not British Nationals eh! & bailed until January. It'll be interesting to see if they bother to turn up for the trial or just bugger off back to Pakistan or Saudi or wherever the hell they're from. (p.s. are there any British Nationals living in Lambeth these days?) Edited November 22, 2013 by itsnotoutthere 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted November 22, 2013 Author #4 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) "The three women eventually left the property when the occupants of the house were not around, the charity said" Hardly a dramatic rescue then was it? Like with Ariel Castro in the states who did similar What I dont get in cases like this....is.. why wait so long? If they were not chained up or locked in a room with shuttered windows, then 3 against 2 pensioners sounds like an easy fight...and in most homes there are many things you could make into weapons.. heck take a knife from the knife block, bash 'em on the head with a can of beans...or a handful of coins in a sock...but perhaps they were mentally deficient in a way? And NO disrespect intended with that statement.. Or maybe Im just thinking like a testosterone man... . Edited November 22, 2013 by seeder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 22, 2013 #5 Share Posted November 22, 2013 The thing is seeder, we don't know what sort of psychological damage has been done to these three individuals over the years. I'm just amazed neighbors never seem to spot anything in these circumstances.......but then again it was Lambeth. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted November 22, 2013 Author #6 Share Posted November 22, 2013 The thing is seeder, we don't know what sort of psychological damage has been done to these three individuals over the years. I'm just amazed neighbors never seem to spot anything in these circumstances.......but then again it was Lambeth. Thats the thing with city life isnt it? I lived in south London for half of my life, you soon get used to/wary of - aggressive 'mob' kids on buses, fights in the streets, muggings...pickpockets.. hell where I lived you'd hear a siren literally every ten mins, be it police/fire or ambulance....you get hardened to it..and yes, its reflection of modern hectic life that city people dont care about - or dont make contact with - their neighbours, everyone is too busy doing their own thing, and it can be lonely in the city, thats for sure. Plus we do know, that some people initially 'choose' to be servants, you can find ads in mags requesting 'live in domestic help'...and I knew an Arab couple who had an indian girl live with them as their servant domestic help, but that was all above board... We need to know more details, and eventually we will.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 22, 2013 #7 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) Remember this post from 16th October :- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2463277/Inside-Ilyas-Ashars-basement-kept-sex-slave.html And this was my comment at the time :- Something tells me that this type of thing is probably more common than we realize. Edited November 22, 2013 by itsnotoutthere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 22, 2013 #8 Share Posted November 22, 2013 One thing I did find confusing about this report was :- "A 67-year-old man and woman were held in Lambeth and bailed until January. Police said the two people arrested were not British nationals" And :- "The 30-year-old had spent her whole life in captivity. Officers are trying to establish whether she was born in the house." So the two people are not British nationals, but kept one of these women captive for 30 years. Exactly what sort of visa is it that allows you to stay in the country for 30 years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted November 22, 2013 Author #9 Share Posted November 22, 2013 And... "Commander Steve Rodhouse told a press briefing that the three women told police they had been beaten". It has also emerged the couple suspected of keeping them as slaves were arrested in the 1970s. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25055337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted November 24, 2013 Author #10 Share Posted November 24, 2013 OK its getting stranger.... British slave woman's 'scented love letters and photographs to the neighbour she was obsessed with' 'Spooky' woman, 30, sent letters and photographs to neighbour Marius Feneck lives two floors above alleged slave home in south London Received seven photos of brunette woman and 500 letters, he claims Mr Feneck's girlfriend says the correspondence went on for seven years http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512503/Slave-womans-scented-love-letters-photographs-neighbour-obsessed-with.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odas Posted November 25, 2013 #11 Share Posted November 25, 2013 "A 67-year-old man and woman were held in Lambeth and bailed until January. Police said the two people arrested were not British nationals" Quelle surprire !! Not British Nationals eh! & bailed until January. It'll be interesting to see if they bother to turn up for the trial or just bugger off back to Pakistan or Saudi or wherever the hell they're from. (p.s. are there any British Nationals living in Lambeth these days?) Pakistani or Saudi? So you assume they are muslims? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOMBIE Posted November 25, 2013 #12 Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) One thing I did find confusing about this report was :- "A 67-year-old man and woman were held in Lambeth and bailed until January. Police said the two people arrested were not British nationals" And :- "The 30-year-old had spent her whole life in captivity. Officers are trying to establish whether she was born in the house." So the two people are not British nationals, but kept one of these women captive for 30 years. Exactly what sort of visa is it that allows you to stay in the country for 30 years? That would be the indefinite leave to remain (ILR). They might also be from another nation within the EU, in which case they would not need any visa at all. Edit: Typo Edited November 25, 2013 by FLOMBIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted November 25, 2013 #13 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Pakistani or Saudi? So you assume they are muslims? One of them was from Bangladesh and the other one from Mozambique? Apparently they supported Marxism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 25, 2013 #14 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Pakistani or Saudi? So you assume they are muslims? Well, they do have form :- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2463277/Inside-Ilyas-Ashars-basement-kept-sex-slave.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 25, 2013 #15 Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) That would be the indefinite leave to remain (ILR). They might also be from another nation within the EU, in which case they would not need any visa at all. Edit: Typo Or there might of course be the third option. From the updated article :- Mr Rodhouse described the three women as having been restrained by "invisible handcuffs" and confirmed they have made a clear allegation of slavery against the two suspects, who have also been arrested on suspicion of immigration offences. Edited November 25, 2013 by itsnotoutthere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopToffee Posted November 26, 2013 #16 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Pakistani or Saudi? So you assume they are muslims? Great Britain indicates Great Britain.Im not against foreign nationals but we should police our country better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted November 26, 2013 Author #17 Share Posted November 26, 2013 First pics The face of Rosie 'the slave': Woman held for three decades is named and pictured as police probe mystery death fall of 'mother' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513544/Rosie-London-slave-named-police-probe-death-fall-mother.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted November 26, 2013 Author #18 Share Posted November 26, 2013 further update Pictured for the first time: Communist sect 'leader' accused of keeping three women as slaves for more than 30 years http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513964/Pictured-time-Communist-sect-leader-accused-keeping-women-slaves-30-years.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted November 27, 2013 #19 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I tell you what, this story gets wierder. this just in: The daughter of a Second World War codebreaker is one of three women allegedly held as a slave by a Maoist sect, it has been claimed. Josephine Herivel, in her fifties, is the daughter of John Herivel, one of the leading codebreakers at Bletchley Park who deciphered the Enigma code. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/11/27/slave-is-codebreakers-daughter_n_4347545.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cuk%7Cdl7%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D226136 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted November 27, 2013 Author #20 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) I tell you what, this story gets wierder. this just in: The daughter of a Second World War codebreaker is one of three women allegedly held as a slave by a Maoist sect, it has been claimed. Josephine Herivel, in her fifties, is the daughter of John Herivel, one of the leading codebreakers at Bletchley Park who deciphered the Enigma code. http://www.huffingto...nk2&pLid=226136 see the vid with Josephine here... she wasnt looking like a prisoner back then. The whole story is quite strange I find, be interesting to learn more...as we will.. http://www.itv.com/n...97-documentary/ . Edited November 27, 2013 by seeder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Buzzkill Posted November 27, 2013 #21 Share Posted November 27, 2013 see the vid with Josephine here... she wasnt looking like a prisoner back then. The whole story is quite strange I find, be interesting to learn more...as we will.. http://www.itv.com/n...97-documentary/ . I seriously doubt the "slaves" angle after seeing these "slaves" walking freely by themselves, defending their captor to TV cameras and denying he had any involvement with a mysterious death that occurred in one of their residences. So they were "captive" for thirty years, but don't tell the police when interviewed in 1997? Story stinks to high heaven. If they were "brainwashed and beaten" as the police in this article claims, then how did the police find out they were "slaves"? Police said the captives, a 69-year-old Malaysian, a 57-year-old Irishwoman and a 30-year-old Briton, had not been physically restrained at the couple's apartment, but were bound to their captors by "invisible handcuffs" in a "disturbing picture of emotional control". Does this look like someone trying to escape "invisible handcuffs"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etXgBIpHn74 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted November 27, 2013 Author #22 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Maybe the bedroom tax rumbled everything and they decided to play it this way to ensure they were legally re-homed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander CMG Posted November 28, 2013 #23 Share Posted November 28, 2013 My wife is not far behind, this record. I have been her slave for just over 25yrs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odas Posted November 28, 2013 #24 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Well, they do have form :- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2463277/Inside-Ilyas-Ashars-basement-kept-sex-slave.html So do others like mexicans or the thousand of childpredators who got cought last month in europe, usa and canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odas Posted November 28, 2013 #25 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Great Britain indicates Great Britain.Im not against foreign nationals but we should police our country better. And I agree 100% with your statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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