itsnotoutthere Posted December 8, 2013 #1 Share Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) MPs' pay: 11% pay rise 'inappropriate' says minister Plans to award MPs an 11% pay rise are "utterly incomprehensible" and should be reconsidered, Treasury Minister Danny Alexander has said. The parliamentary watchdog Ipsa is expected later this week to recommend a pay rise of £7,600 to £74,000 - to take effect after the 2015 election. Ipsa does not need to get the agreement of Parliament to bring in the changes. Link :- http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-25287108 So much for ...'we're all in this together'. So in conclusion, the only people to get pay rises this year are MPs, the queen, the bosses of big corporations (energy companies) & bank executives. ....hmmmm seems fair. Edited December 8, 2013 by itsnotoutthere 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted December 8, 2013 #2 Share Posted December 8, 2013 *throws-up* 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud the mackem Posted December 8, 2013 #3 Share Posted December 8, 2013 These M.P's don't work in a proper job (like a trade), so their wages are paid by the Gov't out of Taxes, so in order to justify this outrageous pay rise, will our Taxes increase accordingly, if not where are they getting the extra money from.These people are professional Tax robbers. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted December 8, 2013 #4 Share Posted December 8, 2013 i'll be surprised if this gets the go ahead, to take effect after 2015 election. plenty of time to fix, or compromise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted December 8, 2013 Author #5 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Yes, saw some MP interviewed about this today & the stock defense seems to be that the decision is out of their hands & implemented by the Parliamentary watchdog IPSA. Wonder if they'd have any input if IPSA recommended a pay cut?....Answers on a postcard please. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaa-Tzik Posted December 8, 2013 #6 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I see that a major excuse for this is that they need a big wage to attract "top" people. Well, I remember that before 2008 this excuse of needing a big wage to attract the "top" people, was used to justify the enormous salaries of bankers. Well, that worked didn't it, certainly had "top" people in charge of the banks in 2008 eh..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud the mackem Posted December 9, 2013 #7 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I see that a major excuse for this is that they need a big wage to attract "top" people. Well, I remember that before 2008 this excuse of needing a big wage to attract the "top" people, was used to justify the enormous salaries of bankers. Well, that worked didn't it, certainly had "top" people in charge of the banks in 2008 eh..... Its not the wages that attract people into the Political scene,its the Power to manipulate the population.Ok they maybe don't get top wages,but its enough to get 2nd homes and fiddle the expenses.My 2nd home is a shed in my garden. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaa-Tzik Posted December 9, 2013 #8 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Its not the wages that attract people into the Political scene,its the Power to manipulate the population.Ok they maybe don't get top wages,but its enough to get 2nd homes and fiddle the expenses.My 2nd home is a shed in my garden. So, you actually have a home? plutocrat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbenol Posted December 12, 2013 #9 Share Posted December 12, 2013 It probably won't happen. They'll agree to reduce the increase (maybe by half), then declare how reasonable and self-sacrificing they are. Anybody here recently had a 5.5% pay rise? It's the oldest trick in the book. Even my kids have mastered it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted December 14, 2013 #10 Share Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) It probably won't happen. They'll agree to reduce the increase (maybe by half), then declare how reasonable and self-sacrificing they are. Anybody here recently had a 5.5% pay rise? It's the oldest trick in the book. Even my kids have mastered it. The public sector have had a wage freeze and so should the government, but in the private sector on average wages have been increasing between 1% and 2.5%. on avergage their will have been some who had a wage freeze as well. so technically a wage decrease with inflation. But seeing how the government are also public sector workers they should only get an increase when the rest of the public service get a wage increase. that would only be fair. on pay rise, personally yes, 6.1% - 10% over the last two years, and job security until 2022 - But im not saying that in a boastful way, the point i want to make is if you make something people want and export around the world, good wages can be paid. and that is the key - global demand has to be there. it wasn't always like this - Our Indian owners seen fit to spread the wealth seeing we made £3Billion in three months. six month profits of £1.2Billion. we've come along way, when we was owned by Ford we went down to one shift and faced redundancies. luckily Indian owners TATA bought the Brand off Ford (europe) - and to be fair when Ratan Tata addressed the workers he promised us a bright future, at the time people had doubts, but here we are and the promises of investment in the production - plants and people have been kept. plus the flexibility and commitment of the work force in a competitive market to take on the likes of China - together we've done the impossible bucking the recession and posting record production, sales and profits in the most difficult of times. the government use us as an example. but the government need to learn the lesson. as a country we need to specialise in certain sectors of manufacturing. engineering and science. that is the future for the UK. Edited December 14, 2013 by stevewinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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