Waspie_Dwarf Posted December 10, 2013 #1 Share Posted December 10, 2013 NASA Engineers Crush Giant Fuel Tank To Improve Rocket Designs Think of it as high-tech can crushing. Only the can is enormous, as big as part of the largest rocket ever made.During a series of tests from Dec. 9-13 at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., engineers will apply nearly a million pounds of force to the top of an empty but pressurized rocket fuel tank. The test will eventually buckle and destroy the structure of the thin cylindrical tank wall while instruments precisely measure and record everything, millisecond by millisecond Read more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithisco Posted December 10, 2013 #2 Share Posted December 10, 2013 What a waste of time and money "We" already have several excellent simulation engines that can give you exactly the same test results as can be achieved by physical testing. This has been proven innumerable times in aeronautics so this is nothing more than a window dressing exercise that will yield only predicted results from the Simulations. Of course, it will always be good PR for Joe Average to see a Big Can crushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted December 10, 2013 #3 Share Posted December 10, 2013 What a waste of time and money "We" already have several excellent simulation engines that can give you exactly the same test results as can be achieved by physical testing. This has been proven innumerable times in aeronautics so this is nothing more than a window dressing exercise that will yield only predicted results from the Simulations. Of course, it will always be good PR for Joe Average to see a Big Can crushed. I dunno enough about the subject to have a view, except to say that sometimes it is good to do the real test rather than simulations. Simulations are usually based on a long series of assumptions, which are probably all correct, but, then, again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithisco Posted December 10, 2013 #4 Share Posted December 10, 2013 It is always nice to have your simulations verified in real - life destructive testing, but a second destructive stress test is never necessary, it´s just good PR (expensive as it is). Of course, you need to keep engineers employed, and engaged, until the next Project "Kicks - In" so a certain amount of this exercise will be designed to keep Engineers interested and not looking at other opportunities in the workplace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einsteinium Posted December 10, 2013 #5 Share Posted December 10, 2013 What a waste of time and money "We" already have several excellent simulation engines that can give you exactly the same test results as can be achieved by physical testing. This has been proven innumerable times in aeronautics so this is nothing more than a window dressing exercise that will yield only predicted results from the Simulations. Of course, it will always be good PR for Joe Average to see a Big Can crushed. Look, I am an engineer and I understand why they are doing this. This is not a PR stunt. From the article, " The ultimate goal is to develop analyses and models that reflect the real-life test articles with extreme accuracy, so designers can use high-fidelity computer simulations and virtual tests to save time and money. "But we have to make sure that we ground those models in these carefully conducted real-world tests" They want to fine-tune their simulation technology so that it better represents real life. This is more than just validating simulation data, it is using real data to create better simulations for future use. This is invaluable information that will allow for lighter and stronger future designs, something that current simulations obviously do not allow for due to inaccuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted December 10, 2013 Author #6 Share Posted December 10, 2013 What a waste of time and money I would think having the world's most powerful rocket disintegrate on it's maiden flight, in the full glare of the world's press, as a result of insufficient testing would be considered a waste of time and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted December 17, 2013 Author #7 Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Shell Buckling Test NASA completed a series of high-tech can-crushing tests as an enormous fuel tank crumbled under the pressure of almost a million pounds of force, all in the name of building lighter, more affordable rockets. The rare test with an aluminum-lithium cylinder as large as a full-size rocket fuel tank was conducted inside the structural test area at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala. Credit: NASA/Marshall Space Flight CenterSource: NASA/MSFC - Multimedia Edited March 6, 2014 by Waspie_Dwarf corrected source link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted March 17, 2014 Author #8 Share Posted March 17, 2014 SBKF Move to U. S. Space & Rocket Center The Shell Buckling Knockdown Factor (SBKF) "Can Crusher II" test article is transported to the U. S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, AL.Credit: NASASource: NASA - Multimedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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