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Colorado legalizes recreational pot use

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Hey everyone,

I live in Colorado and we are currently 4 hours away from being the first state in the United States to legalize recreational use of Cannabis. If you're not sure what this means, you could compare Colorado to a United States version of Amsterdam. I have watched, over the last 6 months, pot shops, pot restaurants/coffee shops, and even grocery stores, pop up like they were Starbucks.

I have mixed feelings over this as I feel people have the right to use Cannabis for whatever means they please, however, I also have been a Soldier and now an Agent with the Federal Government my entire Adult life. We have been briefed on the issues this is already causing legally and socially, as my team have been involved in 11 different raids on these Pot Shop owners for actually being or having ties to Drug Cartels. Colorado has opened the door for our enemies to take root in an almost legal way. The implications of these actions are far reaching and serious for the nation as a whole.

The benefits for Colorado as a state are many as well. The amount of tourism income and profits being made off of the state taxes from this new market will be incredible. We will benefit greatly. I believe the overall "attitude" as a state will begin to mellow as well...

Anyway, I wanted to ask what others thought of this topic? Also, are you planning a trip to come to Colorado now because of this?

Thank you for your time!

(Some source reading: http://www.9news.com/news/article/371222/339/Only-hours-remain-until-legalization- )

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I'm for it. There are several ways it could boost the economy! I heard Hawaii is debating legalizing marijuanna as well as colorado and Washington. I'm not sure about recreational use though.

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Meh, its been basically legal here in Cali for several years...speaking from personal experience.

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WA was first lol but its still not in stores, just medical mj shops EVERYDAMWHERE

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So I guess the shops be open at 1201am and then the great social experiment begins ....

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Pot is illegal in Vietnam but as far as I can see the laws against it are not much enforced, except supplies will be confiscated if found, but no special searches are carried out. Other drugs are another matter; addicts are sent to special rehabilitation schools and pushers go to jail; occasionally a major figure is executed, although for that to happen he normally has to have a murder or two under his belt as well.

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Had to happen sometime. Can't keep it illegal forever.

State by state, eventually it will altogether become legal.

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Increased tourism? I doubt it.

Edit: If the laws are like WA, you have to be a resident to purchase.

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Well people have the right to do it, doesn't mean it's a good thing. We should be did discouraging drug use, not encouraging it IMHO.

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Well people have the right to do it, doesn't mean it's a good thing. We should be did discouraging drug use, not encouraging it IMHO.

Yeap, lets close pubs and off-liscences too.

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There are a cluster of things that are widely illegal because they are pleasurable to many but may have side effects. Gambling, prostitution, gay sex, alcohol, marijuana, apostasy, pornography, a college education. Slowly freedom is winning out in society after society, except maybe among Muslims and Jehovah's Witnesses.

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How do you know if someone is in possession of (heavily taxed and more expensive?) "legal" pot, or (untaxed, competitive and cheaper?) cartel pot?

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There are a cluster of things that are widely illegal because they are pleasurable to many but may have side effects. Gambling, prostitution, gay sex, alcohol, marijuana, apostasy, pornography, a college education.

Now see here Frank, I know you like to be provocative, but equating apostasy and college educations?

When was the last time apostasy led to the sort of evils a college education does?

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Honestly, if all substances used for recreation are considered *bad* then alcohol and tobacco use should be illegal. I'm personally just not all that concerned about marijuana. I'm concerned about stuff like heroin and crystal meth...I'm really concerned there.

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there has always been double standards regarding pot and opium in the rural areas with the law ... if one is of proper character they seldom gets into trouble with the law with private use ~ unless they go peddling or indulge in other criminal activities they are usually left alone ... till and if they start trouble of course ...

I used to do pot a lot nut never anything chemically manufactured - I don't even take aspirins ... many a police knows of it and they pretty much just advise me not to go off on a bend ... they enjoy chatting with me as do I with them ... now the stuff we get around here is just a waste of time and money ...

~ some of the kids I see experimenting with pot I chat them into knowing the difference of high and natural high ... to see the difference between rebelling and being stupid ... they grow into fine young men and women, most of them anyways, and now is great friends ... and shares a pot party once in a blue moon ...some go the ways of meth and hard narcotics and is gone in flicker of a cricket lighter ...

THere is nothing mind blowing or special about pot ... not to me anyway ... as far as i can see ... nor to anyone else I've met ...

Its the burden on the penitentiary infrastructure that is making this primary push to legalisation and nothing to do with how harmful pot is ~ or not

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Increased tourism? I doubt it.

Edit: If the laws are like WA, you have to be a resident to purchase.

Nope... legal to Non residents in both states.

http://lcb.wa.gov/marijuana/faqs_i-502

"Q: Will non-Washington residents be able to purchase marijuana?

A: Yes, but the marijuana products are to be consumed in Washington"

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Nope... legal to Non residents in both states.

http://lcb.wa.gov/marijuana/faqs_i-502

"Q: Will non-Washington residents be able to purchase marijuana?

A: Yes, but the marijuana products are to be consumed in Washington"

So when do the "What happens in Washington, stays in Washington" commercials start?

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How do you know if someone is in possession of (heavily taxed and more expensive?) "legal" pot, or (untaxed, competitive and cheaper?) cartel pot?

Easy, have the Feds pull them over and confiscate and jail them.

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Good for Colorado. Though I do have to wonder how many states will have to go medical, and how many states to go legal, before the feds start to change their mind about scheduling. Or if they ever will.

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Good for Colorado. Though I do have to wonder how many states will have to go medical, and how many states to go legal, before the feds start to change their mind about scheduling. Or if they ever will.

That is the theory of the Federal system; let individual states experiment and if it works the the whole country can follow. It generally doesn't work so well though as theory would indicate since even experiments that are successful nevertheless have opposing vested interests that prevent wide adoption. That gambling can bring in bushels of money without the social disruptions predicted is an example but gambling is still illegal most places, except of course for lotteries.
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That is the theory of the Federal system; let individual states experiment and if it works the the whole country can follow. It generally doesn't work so well though as theory would indicate since even experiments that are successful nevertheless have opposing vested interests that prevent wide adoption. That gambling can bring in bushels of money without the social disruptions predicted is an example but gambling is still illegal most places, except of course for lotteries.

But gambling is legal in most places. It's legal federally with some restrictions on interstate stuff and some online stuff. Most states have legal forms of gambling that is not lottery. Bingo halls are probably one of the most "harmless" and widespread forms, but there's casinos and racetracks dotted all over. Some states have restricted some forms of gambling, and Hawaii and Utah are the only states that have no gambling officially.

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Things have sure changed in the States then. Here you can't gamble without going to Cambodia, so an industry has appeared along the border (although illegal stuff goes on all the time and generally is undisturbed). There are a few casinos for tourists that you need a passport to go into.

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And of course the lottery; always the lottery.

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[Raises hand] Is recreational the same as medicinal? Or a different use for the drug?

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[Raises hand] Is recreational the same as medicinal? Or a different use for the drug?

Different use for the drug. Medical is under doctor supervision/prescription, typically for physical ailments. Recreational is more like any adult that would like to use it can, just like alcohol, without any medical advice. Typically recreational implies going for the buzz rather than for medical reasons. Though it might be argued that many recreational users are also self-medicating for physical or mental ailments.

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