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Professor Buzzkill

George Carlin threatened about 9/11

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I cannot find an abridged version of his stand up routine, but his comments come between the 3.15 and 6.45 mark are quite interesting. Particularly the comment about survival and cooperating with unsavory people who are "the kind of guys you don't want in your home". He goes on to say he is cooperating with the US government for his survival.

This was very out of character for George, with some of his most powerful quotes being anti government sentiment. Including my favorite:
"I have certain rules I live by. First rule is; I don't believe anything the government tells me" (i wanted to post that as an 8 sec video but apparently there are too many media files in this post :no: )

He has shown later in life (when he was unaware he was being filmed) that he does not believe in the 9/11 official fairy-tale.
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So I am looking for comments as to who or what was George referring to in the opening 2001 stand up routine. It's fairly easy to dismiss any comments by a comedian as, well, comedy, but not with George. I have not seen a routine by him that backs away from the truth until this one. As stated above, why would George be so out of character about this one issue, while eluding to unsavory people and personal survival? Edited by Professor Buzzkill
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Suggests to me that someone made a threat to him, and he's "cooperating with the government for my survival" in order to find the nutter who made the threat.

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The first vid is not available in my country.

Second vid just shows that Carl knows not to trust the Man, and even a Man looking to get DVD/Books signed.

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Suggests to me that someone made a threat to him, and he's "cooperating with the government for my survival" in order to find the nutter who made the threat.

So what could the "nutter" have said to him?

"Don't talk about 9/11 or I'll kill you?"

How did the nutter get into his house?

Seems unlikely that a random mentally ill person would be so concerned about Georges thoughts on 9/11.

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We're unlikely to ever know the answers to these questions as Mr. Carlin died back in 2008.

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The first vid is not available in my country.

Search George Carlin: Complaints and Grievances and you should be able to find something on Youtube that isn't blocked.

We're unlikely to ever know the answers to these questions as Mr. Carlin died back in 2008.

He had 7 years to elaborate on the "elephant in the room" as he called it, but never did. Surely a nutter couldn't have been threatening him for that long.

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Suggests to me that someone made a threat to him, and he's "cooperating with the government for my survival" in order to find the nutter who made the threat.

After listening again to the wording from George, he makes it clear that the unsavory people and the government are one and the same (4.40 -5.00 "you have to cooperate with unsavory people for survival, so i am announcing my intention to cooperate with the US government"). Now all this in the context of stating why he is not discussing 9/11. What makes you think third party was involved? There doesn't seem to be any hints in what he is saying

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I couldn't access the first video; Watched the second.

It seems to me that George put things in the simplest of terms as it related to the investigations into 9/11. He is exactly right in saying that the powers that be will always do what they want to do. However, he is also saying that this doesn't mean we are powerless. He says he always questions the received reality, and that the "consensus reality is often, intentionally misleading." This to me suggests that we hold all the power we need, as long as we know enough to ask questions.

The mainstream media will report on whatever the powers the be intend to distribute to the public; this does not mean everything they report is factual and true. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. So, it stands that those in power of our society (the banks, corporations, and people higher than our own government) will decide what is in the best interests for the general public to digest. The ONE thing that can never be taken from us as a people, is rational thinking. Carlin, to me, by his own opinion, is suggesting that the main power we hold is in our own ability to question what we are being told. He is not telling us what to believe one way or the other, merely suggesting we each have the innate ability to draw our own conclusions.

He is right in saying that a new investigation wouldn't amount to anything, because those same powers that be will just report whatever they deem necessary and satisfactory to the general public. By continuing to ask questions and press for the truth regardless; we can still hold some semblance of dignity and individuality as a human race.

A lot of respect for him.

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I think he died of cancer.or maybe the goverment killed him he passed June 22,08.

He was a funny guy

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I loved George Carlin and Salma Hayek (for different reasons of course) in the movie, 'Dogma'.

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After listening again to the wording from George, he makes it clear that the unsavory people and the government are one and the same (4.40 -5.00 "you have to cooperate with unsavory people for survival, so i am announcing my intention to cooperate with the US government"). Now all this in the context of inestating why he is not discussing 9/11. What makes you think third party was involved? There doesn't seem to be any hints in what he is saying

I suppose that there isn't a transcipt?

Signed,

- Amish Luddite :)

P.S.: I am just asking because it seems that you have the wording down. I'm old school, I'd rather read when I can.

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He was just equating the government as being unsavory people. He made jokes, he was a comedian after all.

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I think you're reading way too much into it. It was the lead up to a very long fart joke. :P

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He was just equating the government as being unsavory people. He made jokes, he was a comedian after all.

George Carlin or Professor Buzzkill? :)

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*b'dum tsh!*

What? Am I alone here?

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It's a very odd lead in to a joke. Thinking about it deeper I am wondering if he is talking more about his career survival rather than his life?

I mean, it is quite clear that George didn't believe the official version of events, but stating that outright to a grieving country would pretty much end any career.

George Carlin or Professor Buzzkill? :)

Both

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George Carlin was a member of the 60s counter culture. Basically, his politics were about as far left as one can get. Not liking any authority (especially government) was normative for the so-called 'hippies'. George also distrusted the phone company (there was only AT+T back then), I recall a very funny sketch about the corruption of the phone company. Also to keep in mind, this counter cluture took a lot of mind altering drugs (Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds as well as pot). Drug induced paranoia was actually rather common. I recall a sketch by Cheech and Chong where Tommy Chong wouldn't open the door for Cheech because he was stoned and paranoid. In other words, keep in mind who George was, his ideas need to be kept in context.

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George Carlin was the best damn comedian and modern popular philosopher from Timbuktu to Portland, Maine, or Portland, Oregon, for that matter, as Jack Torrance once quipped.

I think, however, that you are seeing too much into what he said. He was just referring to the fact that the US government urged people to go on living their lives (i.e. not to talk too much about 9/11 so as not to let it disturb their normal routine) "or else the terrorists win". But he goes on to discuss 9/11 anyway, although he only does so because it is an "elephant in the room".

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