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Evidence of the Holy Spirit

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This may seem sensational to most people, but I believe, along with others, that the "supernatural orb" is the Holy Spirit and that we have had evidence through pictures and videos of the Holy Spirit for quite some time.

If you care to read testimonies of people who have witnessed the "orb" with their naked eyes. Here are several:

http://faceless39.hu...e-Ball-Of-Light

First of all, I would like you to view actual pictures of "orbs":

http://images.search...l&va=angel orbs

Ezekiel's Wheel (I believe that this wheel described in scripture is also a description of the Holy Spirit and/or "orb").

Ezekiel 1:15-21 Now as I look at the living creatures, behold, a wheel was on the earth beside each living creature with it's four faces. The appearance of the wheels and their workings was like the color of beryl, and all four had the same likeness. The appearance of their working was, as it were, a wheel in the middle of a wheel. When they moved, they went toward any one of four directions; they did not turn aside when they went. As for the rims, they were so high they were awesome; and their rims were full of eyes, all around the four of them. When the living creatures went, the wheels went besides them; and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up. Wherever the spirit wanted to go, they went, because there the spirit went; and the wheels were lifted together with them, for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. When those went, these went; when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up together with them, for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.

If you look at an artist's rendition of what Ezekiel saw, you will see Father God on a throne, an angel and the "wheel". Using a process of elimination, we know that the wheel is not Father God, nor Jesus, nor an angel. That only leaves the Holy Spirit in orbital form:

http://pftdcast.com/...1_-1004x798.jpg

The orb pictures are usually one-dimensional. Orbs are actually three-dimensional or round (orbital). To make it three-dimensional or round, take the two orbs in the picture below and put one inside another, and given they were the same size, you can see that they would appear as "a wheel in the middle of a wheel":

http://www.hauntedho...images/orb9.jpg

And, "their rims were full of eyes":

http://intuitartstud...03022_large.JPG

The orb can also be seen as colorless or the multiple colors of beryl, "The appearance of the wheels and their workings was like the color of beryl".

Shown are orbs that are the beautiful multiple colors of beryl:

http://www.theorbwhi...lored_Orbs.html

And spirits are sometimes seen in orbs, "for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels":

Here is a link to a picture of a face of a spirit in an orb:

http://www.extremums...07/xmas-orb.jpg

Spirits are also known for traveling through orbs, "Wherever the spirit wanted to go, they went".

Here is a picture of orbs in flight:

http://0.tqn.com/d/p...b_flight_lg.jpg

Although, the pictures are not flattering, pictures will get better as technology improves.

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Genesis 1:2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

The Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit.

To get an idea of what this might look like, here's a picture of the supernatural "orb" hovering over the face of the earth:

http://hamiltonparan...s3/albion11.jpg

The "orb" can just as easily hover over water.

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Hello.

I've investigated supposed hauntings for a number of years. I've been to some of the most 'active' locations in the country. And I can tell you that more often than not, these supposed orbs are nothing more than specks of dust or anomalies with the digital camera itself. Sadly, looking at these images I can't see anything that could be something more.

Why does the Holy Spirit need to be visible or spatial? I don't think we "see" Him at all. We feel Him and sense Him...

Edited by Marcus Aurelius
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Hello.

I've investigated supposed hauntings for a number of years. I've been to some of the most 'active' locations in the country. And I can tell you that more often than not, these supposed orbs are nothing more than specks of dust or anomalies with the digital camera itself. Sadly, looking at these images I can't see anything that could be something more.

Why does the Holy Spirit need to be visible or spatial? I don't think we "see" Him at all. We feel Him and sense Him...

I've taken hundreds of orb pictures as well as seen thousands of orbs with my naked eyes and I can assure you contrary to popular belief that most orb pictures are of a genuine spiritual entity. Also, I do not think that it is so hard to believe that a Spirit such as the Holy Spirit who is believed to be in all places at all times can be captured on film with today's technology. The reality of God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit is genuine and so are the majority of the orb photographs and videos.

We are on to something big here people, please do not over look it, we have evidence to the third person in the Holy Trinity - the Holy Spirit.

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There is nothing spiritual on orbs:

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Orb_(optics)

Please view this picture of a face in an orb. It can clearly be seen that this is not dust or any other type of photographic artifact:

http://www.extremums...07/xmas-orb.jpg

Ezekiel 1:20 Wherever the spirit wanted to go, they went, because there the spirit went; and the wheels were lifted together with them, for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.

For the spirit of the living creature is in the orb.

The orb my friends is the Holy Spirit.

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It can clearly be seen that this is not dust or any other type of photographic artifact:

http://www.extremums...07/xmas-orb.jpg

Sorry but It can clearly be seen that this is nothing else than a photographic artifact.

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I do not think that it is so hard to believe that a Spirit who is in all places at all times can be captured on film with todays technology.

Todays technology does not use films anymore.

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Please view this picture of a face in an orb. It can clearly be seen that this is not dust or any other type of photographic artifact:

http://www.extremums...07/xmas-orb.jpg

Ezekiel 1:20 Wherever the spirit wanted to go, they went, because there the spirit went; and the wheels were lifted together with them, for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.

For the spirit of the living creature is in the orb

A face in an orb? Do you see faces in rocks too?

It seems the holy spirit is made up of dust and water particles.

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Sorry but It can clearly be seen that this is nothing else than a photographic artifact.

I would suggest that you get your eyes checked.

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Sorry but It can clearly be seen that this is nothing else than a photographic artifact.

It was merely a figure of speech. Edited by notforgotten

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A face in an orb? Do you see faces in rocks too?

It seems the holy spirit is made up of dust and water particles.

I'm handing you evidence to God's existence. I hope that you are not to blind to see it.

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I'm handing you evidence to God's existence. I hope that you are not to blind to see it.

I hope you've got better evidence than dust particles. Or maybe you need your eyes (and head) checked?

Calling pareidolia "evidence of God" isn't that convincing.

Edited by Rlyeh
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I would suggest that you get your eyes checked.

The picture in discussion shows a photographic artifact. If a pattern inside looks like a face, a rabbit or a banana, is irrelevant.

It´s irrelevant also, to take such patterns in relation to something spiritual.

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I think he's here to preach, no amount of evidence or argument will sway him. I mean it says right there in his signature that he "I pray that they not rot in their ignorance." like not having his level of credulity makes us ignorant.

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I'm handing you evidence to God's existence. I hope that you are not to blind to see it.

I´m an atheist and I think I´m not wrong saying that even not the pope will claim the existence

of god evidenced by photographic artifacts. As you are trying to do so, you are a charlatan.

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Ezekiel's Wheel is just personified Sumeria/Babylonian astronomy, and the four creatures are part of the original Zodiac signs.

Knowledge of the Babylonian zodiac is also reflected in the Hebrew Bible. E. W. Bullinger interpreted the creatures appearing in the books of Ezekiel and Revelation as the middle signs of the four quarters of the Zodiac,[14][15] with the

Richard Hinckley Allen, Star Names: Their Lore and Meaning, Vol. 1 (New York: Dover

Publications, 1899, p. 213-215.) argued for Scorpio having previously been called Eagle. for Scorpio.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zodiac

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Ezekiel's vision of the wheel is probably one of the most misunderstood pieces of scripture in the Holy Bible.

Here is another rendition of Ezekiel's Wheel:

http://esdotcarter.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/ezekielsvision2.jpg

This vision also included Father God and four cherubim angels. This vision was of spirits and had nothing to do with astronomy.

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This vision also included Father God and four cherubim angels. This vision was of spirits and had nothing to do with astronomy.

Oh...What wonderous blessing.

Ezekiel 4

Thou also, son of man, take thee a tile, and lay it before thee, and pourtray upon it the city, even Jerusalem:

2 And lay siege against it, and build a fort against it, and cast a mount against it; set the camp also against it, and set battering rams against it round about.

3 Moreover take thou unto thee an iron pan, and set it for a wall of iron between thee and the city: and set thy face against it, and it shall be besieged, and thou shalt lay siege against it. This shall be a sign to the house of Israel.

4 Lie thou also upon thy left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it: according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon it thou shalt bear their iniquity.

5 For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel.

6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

7 Therefore thou shalt set thy face toward the siege of Jerusalem, and thine arm shall be uncovered, and thou shalt prophesy against it.

8 And, behold, I will lay bands upon thee, and thou shalt not turn thee from one side to another, till thou hast ended the days of thy siege.

9 Take thou also unto thee wheat, and barley, and beans, and lentiles, and millet, and fitches, and put them in one vessel, and make thee bread thereof, according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon thy side, three hundred and ninety days shalt thou eat thereof.

10 And thy meat which thou shalt eat shall be by weight, twenty shekels a day: from time to time shalt thou eat it.

11 Thou shalt drink also water by measure, the sixth part of an hin: from time to time shalt thou drink.

*12 And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.

13 And the Lord said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.

14 Then said I, Ah Lord God! behold, my soul hath not been polluted: for from my youth up even till now have I not eaten of that which dieth of itself, or is torn in pieces; neither came there abominable flesh into my mouth.

*15 Then he said unto me, Lo, I have given thee cow's dung for man's dung, and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith.

16 Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, behold, I will break the staff of bread in Jerusalem: and they shall eat bread by weight, and with care; and they shall drink water by measure, and with astonishment:

17 That they may want bread and water, and be astonied one with another, and consume away for their iniquity.

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That's quite a non sequitur. We weren't buying the orbs so you move on to astrology.

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I am compelled, as a committed heterodox Christian (something like a Christian socialist mystic, to 'scandalize' the orthodox and traditional believers), to opine that God doesn't need to use cheap parlor tricks a la the Spirit Rappers of Rochester, or water or dust particles on film, to "prove" divine existence. Such a God would be an affront to the curiosity and intelligence with which God endowed human mentality--and to common sense. Purporting that one's web links demonstrate God's actuality is quite audacious. Prayerful consideration of the fallibility of human technology and the transcendence and grandiosity of God may be in order here.

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Romans 8:16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.

To the naked eye, the orb alone looks and behaves similar to an "eye" bearing witness.

The supernatural orb, not unlike the Holy Spirit is a spirit and can hear our thoughts.

Here is an example of what the "orb" or Holy Spirit might look like bearing witness:

https://s-media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/originals/9e/b3/a0/9eb3a093f0a09e19658956141033ae1f.jpg

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Hello.

I've investigated supposed hauntings for a number of years. I've been to some of the most 'active' locations in the country. And I can tell you that more often than not, these supposed orbs are nothing more than specks of dust or anomalies with the digital camera itself. Sadly, looking at these images I can't see anything that could be something more.

Why does the Holy Spirit need to be visible or spatial? I don't think we "see" Him at all. We feel Him and sense Him...

It is not impossible for The Holy Ghost to appear as a form and its entirely possible for it to take shape as an orb. Orbs seen in pictures perhaps are specs of dust as you say but there are too many sightings of orbs to dismiss them only as that and as a matter of fact, sightings of them usually coinside with other behavior. I definately wouldn't say all orbs are The Holy Spirit and that indeed that would be an unusial interpretation but I would not dismiss it. I would say that the person who witnessed the thing would have the most detail about it. And any witness of the Holy Spirit as visible would mark some sort of rare and powerful occasion?

That is not to say you are incorrect and that mostly the Holy Spirit is perceived rather than SEEN.

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It is not impossible for The Holy Ghost to appear as a form and its entirely possible for it to take shape as an orb. Orbs seen in pictures perhaps are specs of dust as you say but there are too many sightings of orbs to dismiss them only as that and as a matter of fact, sightings of them usually coinside with other behavior. I definately wouldn't say all orbs are The Holy Spirit and that indeed that would be an unusial interpretation but I would not dismiss it. I would say that the person who witnessed the thing would have the most detail about it. And any witness of the Holy Spirit as visible would mark some sort of rare and powerful occasion?

That is not to say you are incorrect and that mostly the Holy Spirit is perceived rather than SEEN.

I'm just not aware of the Holy Spirit appearing in 'forms' other than the recorded theophanies in the Bible and in the form of a dove at the baptism of Jesus and as tongues of fire at the Pentecost. I just feel this is a stretch; trying to read into something that just isn't there....when in reality He IS present; but AS Spirit. He does not need to be contained in some form; He is in fact omnipresent.

As for orbs themselves, I have yet to see any evidence that they are spirits; either in my own investigations or in what I've seen from various sources. I DO believe in ghosts. I have had personal experiences and I have captured evidence...but nothing like this; there has always been a more reasonable explanation concerning obrs.

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Romans 8:16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.

To the naked eye, the orb alone looks and behaves similar to an "eye" bearing witness.

The supernatural orb, not unlike the Holy Spirit is a spirit and can hear our thoughts.

Here is an example of what the "orb" or Holy Spirit might look like bearing witness:

https://s-media-cach...6141033ae1f.jpg

This thumbnail sketch of the Holy Spirit sounds more like George Orwell's 'Big Brother' screens ("eye bearing witness;" "hear our thoughts") than any Biblical image of the Spirit of God (see John 3:8; 4:24).

In the Old Testament, the Spirit of God is notoriously elusive and non-descript (see I Kings 19:12 for an auditory actualization). My Hebrew is rudimentary, but I know that "ruach" in Hebrew means both spirit and breath which are, by nature, elusive and invisible but palpable and powerful--like the wind, as Jesus said. In the New Testament the baptismal dove (Matthew 3:16; Mark 1:10; Luke 3:22) represents a physical manifestation of the Spirit. The Pentecost 'tongues of fire' (Acts 2:3) event is the only other visual visitation by the Spirit.

Mystics may see the Holy Spirit in orbs, sunsets, animals or on Burma Shave signs--but these orbs are in no wise normative for Christian experience.

Edited by DeWitz
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