Varghina Brazil

[zoser]

Yes indeed. In recent years desperate attempts have been made to cover this incident up including a puerile tale regarding two dwarfs.

It never happened that way.

Listen to the witnesses who saw the craft and saw the alien creatures.

This is a documentary that I have never seen before, Highly recommended.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NI7RwWNB8M

Alien Beings Visiting Earth and Living in Society (Full Documentary)

[Iron_Lotus]

another pointless thread from zoser hey i got an idea how about supporting your belief that lazar has any credibility in the other thread you started and ran away from? or are you just going to sit on your hands and wait for this to be torn apart as well and disappear for a few days again?

Edited February 14, 2014 by Iron_Lotus

[Sweetpumper]

[seeder]

Perhaps zoser should find solace in the old thread on same subject he participated in

The Varginha Brazil ET: A Hoax Exposed

http://www.unexplain...a

Little Luis

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Edited February 14, 2014 by seeder

[JesseCuster]

Ok, I misread the thread title and thought this was going to be a very different topic than it is.

[DBunker]

What a joke.... Another BS case based on something as rediculous as people flapping their lips.

:td: :td: :td:

Edited February 14, 2014 by DBunker

[Sakari]

In 1996 the UFO community was reeling from the news that two extraterrestrial beings had been captured in Varginha, in southwest Minas Gerais state in Brazil. Spotted by three girls, the creature was later captured by the Brazilian Army, with assistance from the local police. The being was autopsied at a major hospital in Varghina and it was determined to be a creature that was unknown to science.

Though names of individuals and institutions were given in support of this event, a decade and a half later it can now be revealed that the entire “Varginha ET” affair was a hoax based on child hysteria and on the sightings of the deformed.

The supposed ET autopsy doctor, a Brazilian policeman and an original girl “witness” now weigh in on what really happened at Varginha.

ET AUTOPSY DOCTOR: IT NEVER HAPPENED!

Dr. Fortunato Badan Palhares

One of my research associates from Europe, Aurimas Svitojus, emailed the implicated alien autopsy MD and well-known physician, Dr. Fortunato Badan Palhares. Palhares was alleged by several UFO “investigators” to be in attendance to the autopsy of one of the creatures at University of Campinas. But none of them ever attempted to reach him directly and he has never spoken publicly until now.

Svitojus emailed Palhares on August 23, 2012, with some very pointed questions. Svitojus asked Palhares directly about his involvement or any knowledge of an ET captured in Varginha in 1996.

Here is the Dr.’s reply (roughly translated by Svitojus from Portuguese) and received on August 24, 2012:

"Dear Mr. Aurimas:

I am very glad to know that you have a university education and particularly from Kaunas University of Technology. Therefore it is easier to be quite frank.

When I read an article either in magazines or in books published without the bearing of a scientific outlook, I must first know who are the authors and the reliability of their given information.

Unfortunately, all of the information about the Varginha ET involving my name, are the fruits of fantasy authors and do not deserve any respect from me because they are liars.

In some discussions I've had with "UFOlogists" who claim to have studied this case, nothing, absolutely nothing they brought materialized that was credible. They are conjectures, inferences, perhaps even hallucinations.

I never discuss this issue with students, but when asked in lectures I have always said that: I DID NOT AND NEVER WAS CALLED TO DO ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING WITH THIS MATTER. Several reporters attended the occasion when these stories came out and visited the university where I worked but they had nothing of interest and never showed anything. Mr. Aurimas, there is nothing concrete, reliable and material about this. These stories about the Varginha ET for me do not deserve credit, that is my answer.

I hope I have satisfied your curiosity. I am a scientist and I do not need to hide such facts if they exist. I am not connected to any intelligence or defense agencies. I am a free citizen and unhindered to speak what I want and always acted this way in my personal and professional life. Nothing would stop me to say something if I was really involved."

The truth is that when one digs very deeply into the “affair” it becomes clear that all of the relevant testimony comes from such people as “nurses” and “guards.” Often the names are withheld and sometimes when given, are very common names in Brazil.

TODAYS CLUES ABOUT YESTERDAYS HOAX AT VARGINHA

Today Varginha embraces the ET affair as “real” though is certainly seems to be a tongue-in-cheek “real.” And any “real” investigation of the event is not wanted here.

The city itself began to invest in “UFO tourism” after the event. Two of the landmarks there are:

Varginha Water Tower, in the Shape of a Saucer

It has since been learned that one of the original girl witnesses to the creature (who has now married with a new name which will be withheld) has since converted to an evangelical religion and now dismissed the entire incident as youthful folly. But what of the ET? The girl was surely not the only witness to the event. Was there an impetus to the sighting that had a far more earthly explanation? Yes.

In the 1990s Varginha was home to a deformed homeless man, Little Luis. A local with disabilities, he would often haunch up in corners and he was often filthy and wet. In discussions with Lt. Col. Finholdt Pereira of the Varginha Police, it was learned that this is in fact who the police originally believed the three girls thought that they saw as an “ET.” And Pereira was right:

Little Luis, The Varginha ET, Finally Revealed!

[dr no]

Another youtube video,another load of rubbish that was debunked years ago

[Iron_Lotus]

of course right on to par a troll thread by zoser who doesn't have the testicular fortitude to actually defend it.

[qxcontinuum]

I love to see debunking stories that are no any different than ridiculous ufo claims. The level of ROFL is the same on both sides.

[psyche101]

I love to see debunking stories that are no any different than ridiculous ufo claims. The level of ROFL is the same on both sides.

What in earth are you on about?

One of the very witnesses involved came forward and admitted a hoax, and the entire thread is a troll anyway, as this case was only discussed a few months ago anyway, and all of the above information submitted.

The alleged doctor involved has no idea who came up with the story, and was certainly never involved, the autopsy never happened, and the original witness, not a third had party came forth and admitted that the story was an imaginative one based on local characters, and was was bogus, it could not be much more clear cut, what on earth do you see in there as supporting an ET conclusion? You have to really "Want to Believe" this one.

LINK to Old Threadwhere this was discussed in detail November last year.

Zoser lost and left that debate which is why I assume he has opened a new one - hoping that one was forgotten. This has all been said and done, and right here. The one thing Zoser, and it seem you, rely on which is testimony works against you here as the star witnesses have recanted. So the only way you can call this ET, is to refuse the later admission, and pretend it never happened, and pretend the original statements still hold true.

Which they don't. As such, I do not understand your comment. It seems highly credulous, and somewhat self delusional.

See, even the jokes in the thread are old.

Edited February 16, 2014 by psyche101

[JesseCuster]

I love to see debunking stories that are no any different than ridiculous ufo claims. The level of ROFL is the same on both sides.

You don't even know how to look at a picture of a rock on Mars and know what you're looking at. I somehow doubt your ability to read material surrounding a UFO sighting and your ability to interpret it with intelligently with the correct combination of critical thinking and open-mindedness. Edited February 17, 2014 by JesseCuster

[Iron_Lotus]

You don't even know how to look at a picture of a rock on Mars and know what you're looking at. I somehow doubt your ability to read material surrounding a UFO sighting and your ability to interpret it with intelligently with the correct combination of critical thinking and open-mindedness.

[ambelamba]

Well, that explains the smell of ammonia....

[qxcontinuum]

Perhaps then some of the "experts" here in reading alien documentation can organize some seminars on the subject, helping teenagers around the word with the issues they might have translating online readings into reality. Such as understanding how homeless skinny people on Earth are often mistakenly identified with aliens having red eyes from too much drinking and brown skin from poisoned liver.

[Iron_Lotus]

you really dont read the threads thoroughly do you? it's really not that hard.

[psyche101]

Perhaps then some of the "experts" here in reading alien documentation can organize some seminars on the subject, helping teenagers around the word with the issues they might have translating online readings into reality. Such as understanding how homeless skinny people on Earth are often mistakenly identified with aliens having red eyes from too much drinking and brown skin from poisoned liver.

Good God man a seminar?

Sure, you can pay me to tell you that the old man was NEVER really considered an alien, and the WITNESS said the description was exaggerated ALL ALONG. Do you understand that the one of the very person MAKING the claim says the original story was deliberately exaggerated?

The Old man explanation is neither here nor there, he is considered to be what INSPIRED the children's descriptions. What you seem to be missing is that is not the explanation for what was Seen, it was the inspiration for the Description. And it was put forward by one Lt. Col. Finholdt Pereira AFTER the event. Although that is not needed when two of the key people in the story say it is bogus.

And the Doctors written statement affirms this explanation.

Get it now? Never was an alien to explain, it was just a story. One of the girls admitted that the incident was exaggerated, and the Doctor who supposedly performed an autopsy knew nothing of it. It's made up according to the people in the story.

Edited February 18, 2014 by psyche101

[DONTEATUS]

Listens for the gingle-jangle of the Keys to Lock this thread ?