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Girl held against will @Boston hospital

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Father So Heartbroken About Daughter Held at Hospital Against His Will He Just Defied a Judge’s Order to Talk to Us: ‘I Want to Have All My Guns Blazing’

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/17/ready-jon-father-so-heartbroken-about-daughter-held-at-hospital-against-his-will-he-just-defied-a-judges-order-to-talk-to-us-i-want-to-have-all-my-guns-blazing/

This ain't right. It's going to require the weasely MSM to make a spectacle of this for anything to happen. Good for the dad. Speaking with Beck was a great way to reach a few million people and selfless conservatives, myself included. I'm donating a few bucks.

I didn't catch the whole interview but I know there was more terrible info than what was in this article since I heard things on the radio that are absent within. Anyhow, if the father didn't, and I don't think he did, he needs to publicly name names of every single doctor involved that he knows of. Apparently speaking of just the hospital isn't doing anything. Names and faces need to be hounded by the press. Who do these people think they are? Just told my fiancé that if we have a kid and this happens to us she had better get used to visiting me in jail. Nobody kidnaps my family without me making every attempt to get them back.

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Donated! Only ten bucks but that's all I can do ATM. Hope it helps.

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Thanks for posting this - I just sent in a few bucks also. OUTRAGEOUS!

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first of all you really don't know anything about this case judging by what is in that article. you only know what these parents are saying, and that is one side of a very big story here. where are these doctors who diagnosed her with this disorder? why aren't they speaking out for them?

it sounds to me like there are some very logical reasons for keeping these parents out of the loop seeing as they are sabotaging their daughter's treatment by sneaking information etc behind the backs of those trying to care for her. i'm not surprised they were gagged either...so to speak.

i dunno it just sounds way too one sided and i'm feeling like there is way more information we aren't given here,

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WTF did i just read :S

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I agree with Jgirl that the story seems fishy, but that being said I see no reason why they should keep the child unless they can prove criminal neglect. Drugging up the kid and giving her enemas don't technically count as abuse.

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I want to hear the other side. But I am sketched out by he fact they gave a gag order to the parents. Like wtf they can do that?

And as gromer said you cant just keep someone unless there is a criminal link

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But I am sketched out by he fact they gave a gag order to the parents

Probably because someone doesnt want to admit they are wrong and is doing everything they can to save their reputation :S

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actually everyone involved in the court hearing was put on gag order, not just the parents of this girl. that's a bit misleading to say the least

here is another article giving a bit more information on the case, although it's older

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/parents-accuse-mass-hospital-locking-daughter-psych-ward-article-1.1609998

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Considering all of the past proven medical problems with the girl, the present day degeneration of her condition, the fact that she had an original diagnosis and to this day insists she is in permanent pain due to the denial of pain medication, I would say someone is definitely trying to save their reputation over the drastic overreaction of her confinement.

The articles also claim that there are at least a dozen other families going through the exact same scenario from this hospital.

The whole, "I can't get caught giving you these notes or else I'll get tortured(her words for the "behavioral modification" the hospital is giving her) again." thing when she would give her parent small cards in secret is pretty scary.

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The gag order is the creepy. What got me about this is not that I read it, I actually remember a while back hearing this story, but that I actually heard the dad on the radio. He sounded pretty pssed and convincing and most of all his biggest 'crime' seems to be following doctors orders in the first place and whoever 'they' may be concocted some over medicalizing abuse allegations because of it. Then, who is this neurologists that pops in supposedly without looking at any patient files and deems this girl is a psychotic hypochondriac and gets her thrown in a funny farm? Plus, a dozen other allegations of the same hospital doing the same devious thing? I'd like more details on that but all in all this all don't sound right. I could end up regretting being conned but that's one bold conman to go on a nationally syndicated radio show that owns a huge website and pathetically use his daughter as a crutch to heist the country into a scam.

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Alright, here's some details about another case or two. I can't even make a specific comment. There's just so much to question about this hospital, their disdain for mitochondria, their internal child protective services unit and their seeming ability to be above the law and mostly it's unknown motivation.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/16/campaign-of-terror-one-of-the-best-hospitals-in-the-country-is-accused-of-doing-one-of-the-worst-things-imaginable-to-families-again/

...Long article...

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Alright, here's some details about another case or two. I can't even make a specific comment. There's just so much to question about this hospital, their disdain for mitochondria, their internal child protective services unit and their seeming ability to be above the law and mostly it's unknown motivation.

http://www.theblaze....families-again/

...Long article...

most of what's out there about this case is coming from this one news outlet The Blaze. from what i see it's very slanted and a bit heavy on the appeal to emotion with regard to this

as i mentioned before, this gag order that everyone is up in arms about is not toward the family themeselves or specifically. it is a court order that applied to everyone involved in the proceedings which the parents are breaking. there is no conspiracy against the parents here, it's a normal thing for a judge to do when there is a hearing going on about something so controversial

anyway, you want to run with this without getting both sides of this story go ahead - i'm going to wait and see what lies deeper in this story because there is obviously something more than a hospital or a select number of specialists doing something like this without some significant reason.

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Shouldn't the media interview Justina first before accepting donations from gullible watchers of the fake-libertarian Glenn Beck show?

Did we hear even one word from this girl? Love and abuse aren't always mutually exclusive. Plenty of parents abuse their kids, and because the kids don't know any better because they have no other frame of reference, they still love their parents well enough.

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The gag order is the creepy. What got me about this is not that I read it, I actually remember a while back hearing this story, but that I actually heard the dad on the radio. He sounded pretty pssed and convincing and most of all his biggest 'crime' seems to be following doctors orders in the first place and whoever 'they' may be concocted some over medicalizing abuse allegations because of it. Then, who is this neurologists that pops in supposedly without looking at any patient files and deems this girl is a psychotic hypochondriac and gets her thrown in a funny farm? Plus, a dozen other allegations of the same hospital doing the same devious thing? I'd like more details on that but all in all this all don't sound right. I could end up regretting being conned but that's one bold conman to go on a nationally syndicated radio show that owns a huge website and pathetically use his daughter as a crutch to heist the country into a scam.

Yeah, except the con man isn't the father it's Glenn Beck. Brother, you're conned already if you listen to that weasel. Oh he says all the right words, don't get me wrong. He's the Flavor of the Year.

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If the parents got seven big strong guys to go in there with them and overwhelm the security guards with force and extract her physically from the building she was confined in, ending her kidnapping immediately so they could then go somewhere safe and sue the b******* that stole her, which fake libertarians would agree with me on that?

Merc wouldn't. He turns white as a sheet whenever vigilantism is suggested as a solution. There's injustice in justice, he says.

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i've seen stranger and stupider things happen in hospitals.

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most of what's out there about this case is coming from this one news outlet The Blaze. from what i see it's very slanted and a bit heavy on the appeal to emotion with regard to this

as i mentioned before, this gag order that everyone is up in arms about is not toward the family themeselves or specifically. it is a court order that applied to everyone involved in the proceedings which the parents are breaking. there is no conspiracy against the parents here, it's a normal thing for a judge to do when there is a hearing going on about something so controversial

anyway, you want to run with this without getting both sides of this story go ahead - i'm going to wait and see what lies deeper in this story because there is obviously something more than a hospital or a select number of specialists doing something like this without some significant reason.

These are detailed accounts, written on theblaze but not concocted by. These are not opinion pieces which aren't worth their weight in words. I understand who the gag order is on but that doesn't make it any less fishy. Unless there's some bribery or some favors owed I don't understand why nobody can speak of this. You're not going to get both sides so long as their is a gag order put in place precisely because a local media investigation was launched. That's when everyone was told to hush. That's why it's fishy. Seems to be in the best interest of the hospital and not the family. It's not just this op story, it's others that are similarly disturbing. I said I might have been fooled but...

Yeah, except the con man isn't the father it's Glenn Beck. Brother, you're conned already if you listen to that weasel. Oh he says all the right words, don't get me wrong. He's the Flavor of the Year.

...It wasn't Becks underhanded sales pitches that got me. I heard it for all of 5 or 6 minutes and it was the fathers story, tone and conviction and not Becks well known sensationalism. I'm not that naive dude. I like Beck but not everything he says and does and I'm sure as hell not a hapless Beck sheep. I like theblaze because it's constantly updated with new stories and for those who see all theblaze stories as blaze exclusives probably don't realize that their articles are chalked full of links ranging from local news, such as the op, to every other media outlet left, right and center making many of the articles mere copy and paste jobs. Of course opinions are crammed between the story lines but that's their right as is the right of every other site in the world.

Anyway Yam, it's well known that you're insanely picky about who you like and listen to but that doesn't mean everyone who doesn't follow your path is a naive rat following a piper.

Lastly, if I did get conned so be it. I could do worse things and I sure have lost $10 on lesser causes and I sure didn't give Beck any money unless he's in cahoots to get a cut on the guys con job.

One more thing, if you think he says all the right words then what's your beef with him? That he's out for ratings and money? Who isn't? I do believe his convictions run deeper than money.

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Please the blaze is nothing more than fake libertarian bull honkey. My problem is he's misinformed on a lot of Issues and uses Godwin law a little to much for my taste. For an example this is the only time I am herring about this issue is the perfect example of his one sided slant. Some how's confuses Nazis with socialist even though they were pretty conservative on most Issues of the time. They did things that conservatives republicans have been doing like privatize the government, busted up union and jailed their leaders, rounded up many of the political opponents and killed them. He's misinformed republican making it look like he's a libertarian.

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Not sure about that. He professes disdain for republicans all the time. Anyhow, who cares about theblaze or Beck. What about the substance of the story and whether there's any truth to it? Next to that, the accounts aren't concocted by Beck or his site. They're just repeating the accounts of others. Where's the heavy slant? Also, google the story and I bet theblaze isn't it's only source.

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Besides, why does this have to be a 'right wing' issue?

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Not sure about that. He professes disdain for republicans all the time. Anyhow, who cares about theblaze or Beck. What about the substance of the story and whether there's any truth to it? Next to that, the accounts aren't concocted by Beck or his site. They're just repeating the accounts of others. Where's the heavy slant? Also, google the story and I bet theblaze isn't it's only source.

the reason to care about the news source is obvious.

the heavy slant is that the entire accounting has been manipulated to favor the parent's side of the story, and there is little to no information given regarding the other side.

i highly and seriously doubt that a hospital kidnapped anyone. the court decided the girl should stay there not the hospital and that is why she is still there.

the news article you favor is trying to make this something it is not. that is not only bad reporting it is also damaging to the investigation.

as i said before, i will wait until there is something more reported by a different new source before i make any judgements on who is in the wrong here.

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the news article you favor is trying to make this something it is not.

so do you. you assume it is wrong, with not a single evidence to show for. not even anecdotal one.

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so do you. you assume it is wrong, with not a single evidence to show for. not even anecdotal one.

you don't know what you're talking about.

i don't assume it is wrong. i assume it is incomplete.

if you don't comprehend what you're reading please don't comment on it.

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you don't know what you're talking about.

i don't assume it is wrong. i assume it is incomplete.

if you don't comprehend what you're reading please don't comment on it.

i will comment on anything i see fit. just who the f do you think you are?

like i said, nothing but assumptions

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