danielost Posted February 28, 2014 #1 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Joe Given told single moms to stay hone and take care of kids, obamacare will take care of you. Welfare was used by the left to keep people in poverty there. It was a status quo keeper. Is if your poor you staid poor and on welfare. It seems that the democrats have found a way to bring it back. We need people who are trying not sitting on their butts waiting for handouts, if their able to work. We don't need another generation not knowing how to work. Poverty is bigated toward the black family and poor families. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted February 28, 2014 #2 Share Posted February 28, 2014 typical biden comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beany Posted February 28, 2014 #3 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) Can you provide a source for your initial claim? I looked on the net and couldn't find anything. Fyi, i worked at a welfare department for 8 years and can tell you nobody happily walked through the door. They did so because they couldn't feed their babies, because they got laid off their jobs, because they had a chronic illness or injury that kept them from working. Or because dad walked away and paid no child support. And when a member of the LDS walked in the door we referred them to the bishop who saw they got the help they needed without chiding them for being temporarily down on their luck or calling them lazy or accusing them of looking for a handout, as you so charmingly put it. Edited February 28, 2014 by Beany 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted February 28, 2014 #4 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Joe Given told single moms to stay hone and take care of kids, obamacare will take care of you. Joe is loving the women's vote longtime! A preemptive pre-campaign broadside against the Dread Lady, Hillary Rodham. Joe's got a good deal from the government that will appeal to many unemployed mothers and baby daddys alike. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiskatonicGrad Posted February 28, 2014 #5 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Joe Given told single moms to stay hone and take care of kids, obamacare will take care of you. Welfare was used by the left to keep people in poverty there. It was a status quo keeper. Is if your poor you staid poor and on welfare. It seems that the democrats have found a way to bring it back. We need people who are trying not sitting on their butts waiting for handouts, if their able to work. We don't need another generation not knowing how to work. Poverty is bigated toward the black family and poor families. That last sentence made me laugh. danielost did you forget your meds? slow down take a deep breath. Joe (jimmy buffet) Biden is a freaking idiot. I can see why Obama picked him as veep, because if anyone can make Obama look like he has at least a spark of intelligence it's Joe. with the way the current administration is handling the job situation the single moms may have no choice but to stay home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beany Posted February 28, 2014 #6 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I'm still waiting for a source for Daniel's first statement. And need to remind people that 80% of the people on welfare are single moms with kids. We all know the job market is abysmal, we should know the cost of child care for 2-3 kids makes work impractical for single parent families. Go ahead and poke fun at or hate on Joe, that's personal opinion, but when you demonize poor women & children and chastise them for being poor, call them lazy and looking for a handout because them find themselves temporarily unable to take care of themselves and their kids because of changed economic circumstances, I'm going to stand up and say something. And not one dang word about our corporate welfare program, no, let's pick on the women & children who are struggling to put their lives back together under adverse circumstances. This thread kept me awake last night because of its callousness and lack of compassion and ignorance about the conditions of poverty. So yeah, I join you in wondering what the world's coming to. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted February 28, 2014 #7 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Joe is loving the women's vote longtime! Laughed harder than I should have at that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted February 28, 2014 #8 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) Joe will be squawking about Hillary's War on Women here soon, after what the battleaxe said yesterday about Obamacare. Edited February 28, 2014 by Merc14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted February 28, 2014 Author #9 Share Posted February 28, 2014 http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/biden-single-women-children-dead-end-job-can-quit-because-obamacare I didn't say people liked being on welfare, I said it was a status quo keeper. Once on it kt was hard to get off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted February 28, 2014 #10 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) I'm still waiting for a source for Daniel's first statement. And need to remind people that 80% of the people on welfare are single moms with kids. We all know the job market is abysmal, we should know the cost of child care for 2-3 kids makes work impractical for single parent families. Go ahead and poke fun at or hate on Joe, you are absolutely right about single moms, kids are full time job. even 1 what is even worst, that some are denied welfare because their child support (on paper) puts them above required income, worst thing is, some don't even get child support that they owed. i do not like the Joe, he never gave me any reason to like him, i don't care for him, but in this case, he is not so wrong. However, i'm no economist, but how will obamacre pay their rent, and bills? even if it does pay 100% for all medical needs, still there are other expences that have nothing to do with health. http://cnsnews.com/n...cause-obamacare <this may be it Edited February 28, 2014 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awake2Chaos Posted February 28, 2014 #11 Share Posted February 28, 2014 My only question is does the same thing go for single dads? Or just us ladies? My boss said something similar to me once, I told him to go **** himself. Any self-reliant single mother is gonna feel the same way. We should be encouraging these women to get educated and find a career, not sit at home and not even try.... What a warped view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted February 28, 2014 #12 Share Posted February 28, 2014 My only question is does the same thing go for single dads? Or just us ladies? My boss said something similar to me once, I told him to go **** himself. Any self-reliant single mother is gonna feel the same way. We should be encouraging these women to get educated and find a career, not sit at home and not even try.... What a warped view. And that is exactly the question I would ask. On the other hand, single dads is probably a relation of 1:100... which makes them irrelevant in the political game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted February 28, 2014 #13 Share Posted February 28, 2014 From the article: "Well, I can tell you, I thought I was invincible as a young man and a senator. I was diagnosed with a -- I needed a craniotomy." Sounds like he needs another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted February 28, 2014 #14 Share Posted February 28, 2014 My buddy's wife was complaining that she was bored and couldn't socialize being a housewife and that she wanted to go get a job. So of course he let her. His complaint however was that the cost of childcare was far greater than the income she was getting from her job and basically he was paying her to have a job. This got me thinking. How does a single mom survive if she has to pay someone else to watch her kids while she works. And it's no wonder that our schools are more like daycares than educational institutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted February 28, 2014 #15 Share Posted February 28, 2014 My buddy's wife was complaining that she was bored and couldn't socialize being a housewife and that she wanted to go get a job. So of course he let her. His complaint however was that the cost of childcare was far greater than the income she was getting from her job and basically he was paying her to have a job. This got me thinking. How does a single mom survive if she has to pay someone else to watch her kids while she works. And it's no wonder that our schools are more like daycares than educational institutes. That is not uncommon, especially among young families. Our problem seems to be that our valuation of work seems to be slightly skewed: work to insure the well being of our children (or our future) and you are looked down upon. Push a pencil in some office that generates nothing but costs and you are a hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beany Posted March 1, 2014 #16 Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) And that is exactly the question I would ask. On the other hand, single dads is probably a relation of 1:100... which makes them irrelevant in the political game. No doubt poverty has become a hot button topic in the political arena. Daniel, you still haven't posted a source for your original statement. Does anyone have a source, or is this just opinion passed off as information? Edited March 1, 2014 by Beany 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted March 2, 2014 Author #17 Share Posted March 2, 2014 My second post has a link in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beany Posted March 2, 2014 #18 Share Posted March 2, 2014 aca won't pay the bills, the family would have to go on welfare. Which really isn't enough income to live on, it's temporary, and degrading. So aca may give mom more choices,but nothing as desireable as earning a paycheck big enough to pay the bills. Biden's comments revealed a real lack of understanding of the economic, emotional, and psychology of single moms. Thanks for the link, i am wishing biden was playing for the other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted March 3, 2014 #19 Share Posted March 3, 2014 aca won't pay the bills, the family would have to go on welfare. Which really isn't enough income to live on, it's temporary, and degrading. So aca may give mom more choices,but nothing as desireable as earning a paycheck big enough to pay the bills. Biden's comments revealed a real lack of understanding of the economic, emotional, and psychology of single moms. Thanks for the link, i am wishing biden was playing for the other team. Hate to break the news to you but he is one of your team captains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted March 3, 2014 #20 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Who cares? There's plenty of clowns just like Joe Biden on both teams. Stop picking one clown team over the other. Kill 'em all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplos Posted March 3, 2014 #21 Share Posted March 3, 2014 How does a single mom survive if she has to pay someone else to watch her kids while she works. State subsidize child care and preschool I assume. I have 2 kids and was completely and utterly destitute when I kicked my (now ex) husband out. If I got any type of job that could have actually supported us, there was no way I could afford daycare for both of them. So, I started my own business online so I could raise them myself. I understand not an option for everyone, but neither is giving up and sitting on your butt at home not even trying to work. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted March 3, 2014 #22 Share Posted March 3, 2014 My wife telecommutes as well. Childcare here in Iowa can go upwards to $800 per child a month. http://www.iowachildcare.net/childcare-rates.php Switching how work is done more that direction would take a huge load off of single mothers. Or for more progressive companies perhaps a daycare at the factory/office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiogene Posted March 3, 2014 #23 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Companies should invest in new solutions to assist working mothers. Not many corporations in the US provide in-site child-care facilities. If we're serious on making single mothers "head back to work", we could do that. Joe Biden is the opposite of Newt Gingrich, the house speaker during the Clinton administration wanted single mothers to withdraw from welfare payments in the era's Welfare Reform acts. Single moms and dads should have the option to find employment if they don't want to remain on welfare. There's not enough good-paying jobs right now, so it will be harder to leave welfare than it was the case in the roaring economy of the late 1990s. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremiah65 Posted March 3, 2014 #24 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Who cares? There's plenty of clowns just like Joe Biden on both teams. Stop picking one clown team over the other. Kill 'em all. With fire...so it doesn't regenerate... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted March 4, 2014 Author #25 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Companies should invest in new solutions to assist working mothers. Not many corporations in the US provide in-site child-care facilities. If we're serious on making single mothers "head back to work", we could do that. Joe Biden is the opposite of Newt Gingrich, the house speaker during the Clinton administration wanted single mothers to withdraw from welfare payments in the era's Welfare Reform acts. Single moms and dads should have the option to find employment if they don't want to remain on welfare. There's not enough good-paying jobs right now, so it will be harder to leave welfare than it was the case in the roaring economy of the late 1990s. And Obama and the dems are making it harder to get a good paying job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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