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Tragedies Rock Financial World

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I apologize if this subject was mentioned in a past thread. A French banker jumped to her death after she questioned her superiors today. That was just one in a long list of odd deaths, in the past few months, in the financial world. In the worst case, a Dutch financier and his family were found dead together. A Liechtenstein bank CEO recently was killed, and the murderers were not arrested. The homicides are in addition to the long list of untimely suicides. There have been between ten and twenty weird deaths since the start of 2014. Any thoughts?

List Of Odd Suicides:

http://www.zerohedge...g-her-superiors

Homicide Of Liechtenstein CEO:

http://www.zerohedge...-frick-murdered

Death Of Dutch Family:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-05/abn-amro-ex-ceo-found-dead

ETA: I corrected a url. It's not the Illuminati.

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Oh jeez. this is already a topic here somewhere, maybe twice. I'll find it.

ETA: I checked ten pages back, didn't see it. Maybe in a different forum.

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Oh jeez. this is already a topic here somewhere, maybe twice. I'll find it.

One "suicide" just took place in France. It makes you wonder if they know something that we don't.

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One "suicide" just took place in France. It makes you wonder if they know something that we don't.

I wonder if they are finding out that a collapse is inescapable, imminent, and they just don't care to live as paupers. Hard to believe anyone would kill themselves over loss of wealth but I guess it happens.
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Whenever I hear somebody committed suicide by jumping off of a building it raises a suspicion with me. I don't know about you guys reading this but I've jumped off cliffs into lakes and rivers. Always no higher than 50-60 ft and it took a lot of nerves to shed before I lept.... and that was into water. I have a difficult time believing bankers willingly jump to their deaths without a push. There exists better ways of killing yourself that require a lot less nerves to overcome. Like popping meds and alcohol or hanging from a rope until you pass out. Jumping off a building onto the street below? ??? Come on!

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I wonder if they are finding out that a collapse is inescapable, imminent, and they just don't care to live as paupers. Hard to believe anyone would kill themselves over loss of wealth but I guess it happens.

They did in the Great Depression. Have there been any clusters like this since then? The homicides and unlikely suicides should be thoroughly investigated, though. You don't have to be paranoid to be suspicious.

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Whenever I hear somebody committed suicide by jumping off of a building it raises a suspicion with me. I don't know about you guys reading this but I've jumped off cliffs into lakes and rivers. Always no higher than 50-60 ft and it took a lot of nerves to shed before I lept.... and that was into water. I have a difficult time believing bankers willingly jump to their deaths without a push.

I agree with you. Some bankers evidently took the plunge after the stock market crashed before the Great Depression, but that might have been somewhat more akin to an urban legend than an epidemic. I never knew the circumstances or number of people who jumped off buildings back then. Could it have been exaggerated? Also, the alleged jumps and leaps aren't the strangest events. Look at the murders. Look at the guy who "committed suicide" with a nail gun! This hasn't been covered much by establishment "journalism", either.

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It's a stressful job, one of the top five IIRC.

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It's a stressful job, one of the top five IIRC.

That's the go-to explanation for many people, and it may or may not explain these deaths. It could be that the deceased learned something that drove them to homicidal anger/suicidal despair, which is an explanation in the middle ground between normal stressors and contract murders. It would be enlightening to learn how these past few months compare to like amounts of time in the past in order to learn how anomalous they are. I doubt that these deaths are just business as usual.

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We debunked this list the last time it popped up here and the time before that. All it takes is a quick perusal of the list to see that most of these people weren't "bankers" (whatever that means).

More importantly, I've yet to see anyone put forth any evidence that these deaths are happening at any rate higher than normal. If one were to do the research, I'm sure you'd find the same death rate in physicians, auto mechanics, and Subway sandwich artists.

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Whenever I hear somebody committed suicide by jumping off of a building it raises a suspicion with me. I don't know about you guys reading this but I've jumped off cliffs into lakes and rivers. Always no higher than 50-60 ft and it took a lot of nerves to shed before I lept.... and that was into water. I have a difficult time believing bankers willingly jump to their deaths without a push. There exists better ways of killing yourself that require a lot less nerves to overcome. Like popping meds and alcohol or hanging from a rope until you pass out. Jumping off a building onto the street below? ??? Come on!

That is a very good point you raise.

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Whenever I hear somebody committed suicide by jumping off of a building it raises a suspicion with me. I don't know about you guys reading this but I've jumped off cliffs into lakes and rivers. Always no higher than 50-60 ft and it took a lot of nerves to shed before I lept.... and that was into water. I have a difficult time believing bankers willingly jump to their deaths without a push. There exists better ways of killing yourself that require a lot less nerves to overcome. Like popping meds and alcohol or hanging from a rope until you pass out. Jumping off a building onto the street below? ??? Come on!

And yet, while certainly not the most popular, a lot of people choose this method as the way to go:

http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/86/9/0042-9686_86_07-043489-table-T1.html

Interestingly, it's much more popular in countries outside of the United States.

Frankly, having worked at Cornell University and lived in Ithaca, NY, for a number of years, suicide by jumping never surprised anyone.

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We debunked this list the last time it popped up here and the time before that. All it takes is a quick perusal of the list to see that most of these people weren't "bankers" (whatever that means).

More importantly, I've yet to see anyone put forth any evidence that these deaths are happening at any rate higher than normal. If one were to do the research, I'm sure you'd find the same death rate in physicians, auto mechanics, and Subway sandwich artists.

I doubt that you "debunked" it, whatever that means. These homicides and suicides took place, and the individuals were connected to the financial world, as was the Japanese man who committed suicide yesterday. Like I say, I don't know how this spate of strange deaths compares to such *four-month* trends in the past. I too doubt that there is a similar spate of "mechanic suicides" to be found, but who knows.

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All it takes is a quick perusal of the list to see that most of these people weren't "bankers" (whatever that means).

By the way, I'm not saying that all of the deceased people were bankers. However, they or their families (tangentially) were employees of or connected to financial organizations. Feel free to "peruse" the list if you doubt me. They weren't all bankers, but they were linked to banks/finance in some way.

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Japanese man

Mea culpa. That should read, "Chinese man".

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Whenever I hear somebody committed suicide by jumping off of a building it raises a suspicion with me. I don't know about you guys reading this but I've jumped off cliffs into lakes and rivers. Always no higher than 50-60 ft and it took a lot of nerves to shed before I lept.... and that was into water. I have a difficult time believing bankers willingly jump to their deaths without a push. There exists better ways of killing yourself that require a lot less nerves to overcome. Like popping meds and alcohol or hanging from a rope until you pass out. Jumping off a building onto the street below? ??? Come on!

Agreed. Alot of these deaths happen in the middle of the work day, jumping off the very building they worked in. Its almost like they had no choice. Like they had to do it right then, for whatever reason. I mean seriously, they couldnt take a extra day or 2 to buy a gun, and find a quiet peaceful place? Maybe even write a note to loved ones? The number of bankers dead just this year including those with close ties to these banks is 30. Something definitly isnt right here.

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And yet, while certainly not the most popular, a lot of people choose this method as the way to go:

http://www.who.int/b...9-table-T1.html

Interestingly, it's much more popular in countries outside of the United States.

Frankly, having worked at Cornell University and lived in Ithaca, NY, for a number of years, suicide by jumping never surprised anyone.

Really? I was born in Ithaca. I actualy lived in Cortland for a few years. I love the country. But I hated the winters. I finaly left when I realized there was just no money there.

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The nail gun suicide is what convinced me. THAT's not believable...period. Can you imagine the pain of shooting yourself EIGHT times?

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The nail gun suicide is what convinced me. THAT's not believable...period. Can you imagine the pain of shooting yourself EIGHT times?

Believe it or not, I have actualy seen examples of people dieing that way. Once that trigger is pulled, the hand tends to not let go after the first shot, the recoil makes the gun jump, and everytime it lands it fires again. Strange, but true.

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The nail gun suicide is what convinced me. THAT's not believable...period. Can you imagine the pain of shooting yourself EIGHT times?

The murders raise concerns too. Were they eliminating witnesses to the "suicides"?

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By the way, I'm not saying that all of the deceased people were bankers. However, they or their families (tangentially) were employees of or connected to financial organizations. Feel free to "peruse" the list if you doubt me. They weren't all bankers, but they were linked to banks/finance in some way.

Yes, it was thoroughly debunked. Here's an article for your reference

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2014/03/03/why-are-bankers-killing-themselves-in-droves/

Several were retired, one was an auto executive, a couple were interns, one was a reporter, one was an IT guy. Call me when the CEOs of Citibank, HSBC, Duetsche Bank, etc. all jump of a building in one week.

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The nail gun suicide is what convinced me. THAT's not believable...period. Can you imagine the pain of shooting yourself EIGHT times?

It is believable and not uncommon if you research people that have died in this way.

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Yes, it was thoroughly debunked. Here's an article for your reference

https://skeptoid.com...lves-in-droves/

Several were retired, one was an auto executive, a couple were interns, one was a reporter, one was an IT guy. Call me when the CEOs of Citibank, HSBC, Duetsche Bank, etc. all jump of a building in one week.

Look at the first link that I posted. There are an inordinate amount of mysterious deaths on that list. I will admit that one or two don't belong on that list. Coupled with the other two links, you/professional "skeptics" really "debunked" (stupid word) nothing that I posted.

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"debunked" (stupid word)

To make it clear, I'm not saying that your use of the word is stupid. I'm referring to the overuse of the word, in general.

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Really? I was born in Ithaca. I actualy lived in Cortland for a few years. I love the country. But I hated the winters. I finaly left when I realized there was just no money there.

Yep, lived in Ithaca from 95-08, then moved to Homer (the Cortland/Homer metroplex) from 08-11 as one of us still worked in Ithaca and one in Syracuse.

Gotta love Ithaca, where the mayor is a Socialist (at the time), Democrats are too conservative, your coffee if uber-organic, and the guy bagging your groceries has 2 PhDs. There's a reason the bumper sticker says "Ithaca, NY - 20 square miles surrounded by reality".

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