seeder Posted April 26, 2014 Author #26 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Will this dude ever go away??? specify pls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_dreamer Posted April 26, 2014 #27 Share Posted April 26, 2014 How is this different than say Google being blocked in China? Or Turkey attempting to shut down Twitter (and failing). I don't think that one nation can shut down the internet. The best they could do would be to shut it down as much as possible within their borders. North Korea seems to be very successful at this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisperer Posted April 26, 2014 #28 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Its a disturbing thing to read as I perceive that this would be the or a way to brainwash citizens locked inside of a local WEB structure, not good for anybody really 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted April 26, 2014 Author #29 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Its a disturbing thing to read as I perceive that this would be the or a way to brainwash citizens locked inside of a local WEB structure, not good for anybody really But is it so different for us? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted April 26, 2014 #30 Share Posted April 26, 2014 This is really what a borderless does not mean ~ all it means is it is a world of virtual borders with no restriction on visas ~ soon it will change ... and it starts with the users being reliably fixed to a virtual identity ~ the tech it is there already nowadays ~ just that now the profits is still too painful to leave behind without some ~guarantee~ of greater profits going on with the next evolution of Net/Web protocol ~ 'the cloud' is is nothing more than some glorified member's list ~ ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skookum Posted April 27, 2014 #31 Share Posted April 27, 2014 He is getting more like Stalin by the minute, paranoid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted April 27, 2014 #32 Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) It is really sad to see what is happening in Russia today. Putin started out pretty goood. He stabilised the economy and he gave Russia a sense of hope in the future, after 75 years of communism and 8 chaotic years of Yeltsin. But then something went wrong, and he has become more and more like a tzar. Looking at Russias/Soviet history they have had an almost unbroken succesion of bad leaders. I think Gorbatjov pretty much was the only Russian/Soviet leader who actually cared about the average Russian. The sad thing is that Russia has allways had everything that could make them great, but somehow their leaders never fails to screw it up. Edited April 27, 2014 by Noteverythingisaconspiracy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemagegod Posted April 27, 2014 #33 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Either everyone is looking at some really weird porn i don't get why every country wants there own internet. Spying is nothing new. So all of these countries pointing fingers at the USA should stop b****ing about the mass surveillance because everyone does it. Russia is just mad that it lacks the capabilities to do so and it is way behind China. Putin denied there was mass surveillance of citizens. Sure. Thats what the KGB is for.^ A purely Russian-run system could make it easier for the Russian intelligence services to monitor and control traffic. **** no. I'd choice good old USA over Russia any time of the week. That sentence mind as well state that Russia is just jealous of the United States superiority when it comes to spying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highdesert50 Posted April 28, 2014 #34 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Interesting wake-up call. Have we have all become too dependent upon technology? There was a time when we were untethered, the adventurers, the masters. Evolved to explore and take risks. Instead, we retreat to our armchairs placated and subservient to our master, technology. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted April 28, 2014 Author #35 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Interesting wake-up call. Have we have all become too dependent upon technology? There was a time when we were untethered, the adventurers, the masters. Evolved to explore and take risks. Instead, we retreat to our armchairs placated and subservient to our master, technology. Exactly. I once had no net access or a pc for a week, didnt know what to do with myself. So I started some conversations with family members. They seem like nice people! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted April 28, 2014 Author #36 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Found a news vid on the subject now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibeliever Posted April 28, 2014 #37 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Maybe unplugging from the internet and Exactly. I once had no net access or a pc for a week, didnt know what to do with myself. So I started some conversations with family members. They seem like nice people! Maybe unplugging from the internet and turning off our TVs will become the sane person's tin-foil hat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarPlexus Posted April 28, 2014 #38 Share Posted April 28, 2014 http://www.theriches...riis-net-worth/ http://www.ehow.com/...nted-skype.html http://www.ask.com/q...-invented-Skype http://www.estinvent...ian-inventions/ http://www.brighthub...icles/6109.aspx This is just a tiny fraction of the non-Wiki links about Skypes history. Now it is your turn to provide links about your alternate history of Skype. No. **** Skype. Skype is clean but facebook got sick funding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted April 28, 2014 #39 Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) No. **** Skype. Skype is clean but facebook got sick funding Then why did you say Skype was funded by NSA's Black budget ? Were you lying ? Edited April 28, 2014 by Noteverythingisaconspiracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted April 28, 2014 #40 Share Posted April 28, 2014 He is getting more like Stalin by the minute, paranoid. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoIverine Posted April 29, 2014 #41 Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) Nor the Internet - that was Sir Tim berners - Lee Al Gore tends to disagree. Edited April 29, 2014 by WoIverine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarPlexus Posted April 29, 2014 #42 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Then why did you say Skype was funded by NSA's Black budget ? Were you lying ? No maybe you need glasses bro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted April 29, 2014 #43 Share Posted April 29, 2014 SolarPlexus you are absolutely right that i need glasses. It was oversword who claimed Skype was NSA funded not you I am very sorry ! I hope you can forgive me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomar Posted May 6, 2014 #44 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Russian vs. U.S. Internet. A nice choice; guess which one I'll go with?! Not that I love or trust the FBI, NSA, but the KGB/NKVD/FSB are worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaric Posted May 14, 2014 #45 Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) I don't know about their Internet, but it seems Russians have a better moral compass than some. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10825041/Britons-more-likely-to-support-torture-than-Russians.html "The British public is more likely to condone torture practices than people in Russia and almost half are against an outright ban." "Some 29 per cent of Britons said practices such as beatings, scalding and needles rammed under fingernails could be justified if it is to protect the public – compared to 25 per cent in Russia." Edited May 14, 2014 by Alaric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heroic Bishop Posted May 14, 2014 #46 Share Posted May 14, 2014 My god Putin is a nutcase....the problem is he is a very powerful nutcase.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Border Collie Posted May 14, 2014 #47 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I don't know about their Internet, but it seems Russians have a better moral compass than some. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10825041/Britons-more-likely-to-support-torture-than-Russians.html "The British public is more likely to condone torture practices than people in Russia and almost half are against an outright ban." "Some 29 per cent of Britons said practices such as beatings, scalding and needles rammed under fingernails could be justified if it is to protect the public – compared to 25 per cent in Russia." Thing is, this sort of issue is not about the ordinary people. It is about the governments. And Putin pretty much takes the biscuit internationally at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaric Posted May 16, 2014 #48 Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) Thing is, this sort of issue is not about the ordinary people. It is about the governments. And Putin pretty much takes the biscuit internationally at the moment. Funny thing about governments, they're made of and reflect the values of, the people... ever think that if less Americans supported "enhanced interrogations" that our government wouldn't be so cavalier about using them and perhaps we wouldn't have slipped down the slope into extra-judicial targeting and killing of Americans? Edited May 16, 2014 by Alaric 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted May 16, 2014 #49 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Funny thing about governments, they're made of and reflect the values of, the people... If Putins values reflected the values of the Russian people, why does he have to rig elections ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarPlexus Posted May 16, 2014 #50 Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) If Putins values reflected the values of the Russian people, why does he have to rig elections ? A ridiculous statement . My god Putin is a nutcase....the problem is he is a very powerful nutcase.... He is actually more sane than most western politicians Edited May 16, 2014 by SolarPlexus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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