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Over 2000 studies say GMO's are safe

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Im still undecided about GMO's safety but I ran across this article and figured I would post it to see peoples thoughts.

http://reason.com/archives/2014/05/28/dont-fear-genetically-modified-food

From article

"Given all the fear from media and activists, you might be surprised to learn that most serious scientists agree with him. "There have been about 2,000 studies," says Entine, and "there is no evidence of human harm in a major peer-reviewed journal."

Jon Entine of the Genetic Literacy Project responds: "We've eaten about 7 trillion meals in the 18 years since GMOs first came on the market. There's not one documented instance of someone getting so much as a sniffle."

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That's absolutely true. Not only are they safe, but they increase food production, are better for the environment in general, and dramatically lower pesticide use.

But unfortunately nothing will convince the GMO conspiracy crowd.

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Good article. I was weeping with laughter by the time I was done reading the comments.

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Here's another interesting take on the debate and frankly one I agree with 100%:

http://reason.com/ar...y-modified-food

Why Do These Well-Fed Anti-Science Activists Oppose Safe, Cheap Food For Poor People?

Nearly 2,000 studies about GMOs all say the food is safe

Did you mean to put up the OP article again? Or was that an oops and you meant to put up another interesting article?

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We don't have a food shortage problem, we have a distribution problem.

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GMO’s are modified foods that are also known as Monsanto in other terms of name that is given. It’s not good when people do genetic engineering food even introduced food as well eating type of food that is modified with any type DNA methods for greater control over foods structures etc. Reading that article there is many things are not told to us and it can possibility effect us in big way down the road like for an example how it effect our bodies. Many people has food allergies though out the world that can have an major effect or problem in many cases like for example as major chemical to adding DNA to food that dose say what is exactly in it in details. As I said once again that article is too good to be true there is other links that talks about the dangers of foods that are modified with the difference then standard food.

Heres few links

http://www.naturalnews.com/041559_monsanto_gmos_lies.html#

http://www.organicconsumers.org/monsanto/ten-things-monsanto.pdf

http://www.responsibletechnology.org/gmo-dangers/65-health-risks/1notes

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2012/09/20/scientists-savage-study-purportedly-showing-health-dangers-of-monsantos-genetically-modified-corn/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto

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We don't have a food shortage problem, we have a distribution problem.

That is one of the facts. Another fact is that 50% of the global produced food gets wasted year by year, means

we are producing the double amount of food thats required. Of course, the 50% waste value cannot be reduced

to zero but a big part of the food gets wasted at the time of harvesting already caused by stupid norms (the EU

is a master in this discipline) those define e.g. the diameter of a potato, if 3mm below the norm, it`s not allowed

to bring this potato into the market. It`s a shame in general. And that the GMO industry is using the argument

that GMO technology is required to produce the needed amount of food in future, is a shame as well.

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GMO’s are modified foods that are also known as Monsanto in other terms of name that is given. It’s not good when people do genetic engineering food even introduced food as well eating type of food that is modified with any type DNA methods for greater control over foods structures etc. Reading that article there is many things are not told to us and it can possibility effect us in big way down the road like for an example how it effect our bodies. Many people has food allergies though out the world that can have an major effect or problem in many cases like for example as major chemical to adding DNA to food that dose say what is exactly in it in details. As I said once again that article is too good to be true there is other links that talks about the dangers of foods that are modified with the difference then standard food.

Heres few links

http://www.naturalne...gmos_lies.html#

http://www.organicco...gs-monsanto.pdf

http://www.responsib...th-risks/1notes

http://www.forbes.co...-modified-corn/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto

Sorry, but that just shows we didn't got that far from "potatoes cause leprosy".

Using conventional breeding you may end up with more poisonous products by far.

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That is one of the facts. Another fact is that 50% of the global produced food gets wasted year by year, means

we are producing the double amount of food thats required. Of course, the 50% waste value cannot be reduced

to zero but a big part of the food gets wasted at the time of harvesting already caused by stupid norms (the EU

is a master in this discipline) those define e.g. the diameter of a potato, if 3mm below the norm, it`s not allowed

to bring this potato into the market. It`s a shame in general. And that the GMO industry is using the argument

that GMO technology is required to produce the needed amount of food in future, is a shame as well.

Thanks to that you can always buy your favorite bred, butter, etc.

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i try to avoid eating any modified food. this is mainly done by only eating fresh food - nothing processed or packaged.

my beef with it ( pardon the pun) is largely due to the fact that animal dna is used in vegetation to produced desired traits.

i have a problem with mixing rats, moths, silkworms and the like with my veggies, thanks.

as for the meat that i consume...it's a very small part of my diet and i'm very choosy about where it comes from.

http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/food-how-altered.html

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i try to avoid eating any modified food. this is mainly done by only eating fresh food - nothing processed or packaged.

my beef with it ( pardon the pun) is largely due to the fact that animal dna is used in vegetation to produced desired traits.

i have a problem with mixing rats, moths, silkworms and the like with my veggies, thanks.

as for the meat that i consume...it's a very small part of my diet and i'm very choosy about where it comes from.

http://science.natio...ow-altered.html

It happen very rarely but when I find a worm in the salad I say that the salad is good for me (without worm then) as it

was good and comfortable for the worm, so no toxic contents/pesticides. :yes:

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lol

but i'm just talking about the dna, so you would never even know the worm was in there in the first place

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Thanks to that you can always buy your favorite bred, butter, etc.

Yeah this and that you have the choice to select a yoghurt out of 150 different ones in the super market.

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lol

but i'm just talking about the dna, so you would never even know the worm was in there in the first place

Dog food A worm in the salad is so good for you

It makes you strong and clever too

- Iggy Pop -

:tu:

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Dog food A worm in the salad is so good for you

It makes you strong and clever too

- Iggy Pop -

:tu:

haha

yeah iggy knows

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Yeah this and that you have the choice to select a yoghurt out of 150 different ones in the super market.

People do like different things. I still remember last decade before USSR collapse: very little to choose from (of everything)...

Imagine many hours waiting in a queue to buy, for example, 1kg of bananas (not even half ripe, but green, literally)...

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i try to avoid eating any modified food. this is mainly done by only eating fresh food - nothing processed or packaged.

my beef with it ( pardon the pun) is largely due to the fact that animal dna is used in vegetation to produced desired traits.

i have a problem with mixing rats, moths, silkworms and the like with my veggies, thanks.

as for the meat that i consume...it's a very small part of my diet and i'm very choosy about where it comes from.

http://science.natio...ow-altered.html

Are you sure your unprocessed food is safer? Have you heard about "killer zucchini"? Are you sure your favorite variety, for example, of apples is more safe than other varieties? Every single plant have ways to fight pests. Its not done by some magical forces, but by battery of "evil chemicals" (naturally occurring) that are harmful to us in various ways (carcinogens, mutagens, etc; forget about concentrations for a minute).

Edit: spelling

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BMK1245

Are you sure your unprocessed food is safer? Have you heard about "killer zucchini"? Are you sure your favorite variety, for example, of apples is more safe than other varieties? Every single plant have ways to fight pests. Its not done by some magical forces, but by battery of "evil chemicals" (naturally occurring) that are harmful to us in various ways (carcinogens, mutagens, etc; forget about concentrations for a minute).

yes i am sure my unprocessed food is safer.

you talk about natural occurances within plants which hasn't anything to do with human intervention. plants are not creating animal dna within themselves. plants are doing what they do naturally. if one becomes poison to me as a result you can bet i will stop eating it.

i will not knowing consume a genetically modified food.

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yes i am sure my unprocessed food is safer.

[...]

How do know? Do you test foods you eat for carcinogenicity?

[...]

you talk about natural occurances within plants which hasn't anything to do with human intervention. plants are not creating animal dna within themselves. plants are doing what they do naturally. if one becomes poison to me as a result you can bet i will stop eating it.

i will not knowing consume a genetically modified food.

GE (genetically engineered) plants have less changes in "genetic material" than produced by other techniques (be it natural cross pollination, or mutagenic ways). We already share (naturally) fair amount of genes with all other species - that doesn't make you "potato head" by eating potatoes.

BTW, have you ever heard of expression "humans are half bananas"? Talking about bananas - should be "most vile" product we eat, cause "there is no safe limits for radioactivity" - you probably heard that "no safe limits" before.

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in the case of do i want to consume food that is genetically altered by human beings in the manner in which this thread refers.

the answer is no, not as long as i have the ability to choose otherwise.

the rest of your response is outside of that issue.

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in the case of do i want to consume food that is genetically altered by human beings in the manner in which this thread refers.

the answer is no, not as long as i have the ability to choose otherwise.

[...]

You already consume food(s) that is(are) already genetically altered. Go to the wilderness and see how much of unaltered food you will gather.

Just one of the examples (visual). Compare this beauty (literally)

Howlsnow.jpg

with this one with bastardized genes (no beauty here, at all)

ff60be646ed59e097bef9909d25c084f.jpg?itok=Gzre8TEp

[...]

the rest of your response is outside of that issue.

Yes, that was outside the issue in question, nevertheless, my point was about baseless fearmongering.

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i am in no way participating in fear mongering. i make my choice for myself.

obviously nature has a roll in changing things, i don't dispute that. that is a far cry from some scientist injecting dna from a silk worm into my tomato (or whatever) to make it more appealing. as for the dangers of nature doing its thing. well, gee i'm in good health so i don't see a cause for concern there

i would say you are merely trying to play devil's advocate for lack of better things to do.

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[...] that is a far cry from some scientist injecting dna from a silk worm into my tomato (or whatever) to make it more appealing. [...]

If it does not pose danger for your health (any new variety is being tested, no matter if its genetically engineered, or conventional bred), where is the problem?

[...]

i would say you are merely trying to play devil's advocate for lack of better things to do.

Heh? Again, go to wilderness and try to survive on what nature has to put on your table. You'd have to roam many square miles just to survive...

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If it does not pose danger for your health (any new variety is being tested, no matter if its genetically engineered, or conventional bred), where is the problem?

Heh? Again, go to wilderness and try to survive on what nature has to put on your table. You'd have to roam many square miles just to survive...

i happen to have a personal problem with mixing animal and vegetable dna.

as for going to the wilderness and surviving - i could probably survive ok if there were tthings to hunt and vegetation that was edible. i know a little about that sort of thing. i can even build a shelter, how about that!

so what is your point?

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